HANAN...

assalamualaikum

Saya tak tahu samaada betul atau tidak
Tengok keadaan mcm dah tak sempat nak tunggu orang Islam cipta alat ketenteraan yg canggih.Sekarang ni kene tunggu Imam Mahdi je muncul satukan orang2 Islam, berkat doa nya Amerika akan kalah juga. Mungkin 2012 atau 2019 nanti kita tunggu dan lihat.umur umat Islam sabda Nabi 1500 tahun ditolak 1430 hijrah tinggal 70 tahun lagi.
Janganlah sibuk nak kumpul harta..Dekatkan diri kita pada Allah.
Mungkin peperangan terbesar dunia akan berlaku tak lama lagi..

Semoga Allah menggerakkan hati umat Islam untuk bersatu.Amin
Kita semua cinta dunia dan takut mati,tapi orang yang berani mati saja yang layak untuk hidup.

Salam Tun

nicely said Tun..

Salam Tun

nicely said Tun..

May Allah bless you sir.

Salam to Tun and all,

See, i told you, they take the "God's promise to return them to Zion" very seriously. But they conveniently forget "the conditions" that they have to fulfill before that can happen.

Please la...

February 20, 2009
Dear Hanan,
Sorry this has taken a while to get to you… I wanted to do the research to point you and Dr. Mahathir to the correct information from the Bible prophecy.
Dr Mahathir is forgetting something very important.
The land does not belong nor has it ever belonged to the Palestinians or the Israelites. ALL the land on the earth belongs to God and He gives it to whom He sees fit. He created it and He owns it all. The land God promised to the descendents of Abraham (the Israelites) was returned to them after World War II. (Sorry… God never promised the Israelites Texas…)
"The Lord appeared to Abram and said, "To your offspring I will give this land." So he built an altar there to the Lord, who had appeared to him." Genesis 12:7
America and the UN just returned the land to whom God said it belongs to fulfilling prophecy in the Bible. What prophecy am I talking about?:
Reference Daniel chapter 9 the 70 “sevens” of years: When Jesus spoke of events leading up to His Second Coming, He referred to Daniel 9:27: “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation, spoken of through the prophet Daniel… then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains: (Matthew 24:15-16) Paul also seems to describe the abomination that causes desolation and a rebuilt Jerusalem temple at the end of the age in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 when he speaks of the Antichrist as one who “oppose(s) and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshipped, so that he set himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.” Antiochus defiled the temple by demanding worship of Zeus. The Antichrist will defile it even more by demanding worship of himself! Confirming this interpretation further is that Daniel 7 connects that Antichrist with the revived Roman Empire, and Daniel 9:26 implies he is a future Roman ruler, because it was the Romans who destroyed Jerusalem in AD 70.
It is obvious that for Daniel 9:27 to be fulfilled, the stage must be set. The verse apparently envisions Jews once again resettled in their land. For nearly 1900 years, no Jewish state existed, then in 1948 the state of Israel came back into being. The verse also seems to envision the Jews in control of the old city of Jerusalem, the original temple site. In 1967, during the famous “Six-Day War”, Israel took the old city of Jerusalem away from Jordan and regained control of the temple location. Today a large area exists in the location of the former temple, which is occupied with a Moslem mosque, the Dome of the Rock, at the center. Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews are currently planning and preparing to rebuild the temple, which is perhaps what the treaty between the Antichrist and Israel will permit. Only 100 years ago the fulfillment of Daniel 9:27 seemed remote. Now it appears much closer.
God is in control and is arranging circumstances to bring about their fulfillment. God clearly keeps His promises, His plans and purposes will always prevail.
“May those who love you be secure, May there be peace within your walls and security within your citabdels” (Psalm 122:6-7)
“You who call on the Lord, give yourselves no rest, and give Him no rest till He establishes Jerusalem and makes her the praise of the earth… The Lord has made proclamation to the ends of the earth: “Say to the Daughter of Zion, See, your Savior comes!” (Isaiah 62:6b-7, 11a)
Amen Come Lord Jesus!
Shalom

OK!!! Lets say, every single Jew men, women,old folks, kids and babies are killed and eliminated from the face of earth. Whats next?????

p.s- think before answering.

to tahir56 I've have reponded to you in this thread
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=908&p=15100#p15100

Salam Tun,
entah sape2 la budak(pakcik) hanan tu, buat malu Tun je buat artikel pasal dia. siap dengan sequel lagi. Banyak saya perhatikan dalam statement die underestimate Tun guna cynical joke dan macam2 lagi. Memang die banyak point dan most of them make sense walaupun tak semestinya betul. For god sake your one of the world's greatest leader and he's not even in the same league. Kalau ariel firaon ke olmert yang baca dan komen blog tun tu baru la bertemu buku dgn ruas.
Save the best for last.
maaf cara saya.
wassalam.

Salam Tun and all,

For a bit of info on the NEW WORLD ORDER Agenda led by Zionist (which comprised of jews and non-jews)

1. please watch this!! www.thearrival.blogspot.com

2. read The International Jew by Henry Ford (Excerpts of the Zionists Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is elaborated in this book) - Tun i'm sure you've read these books for I know that you are well-read, if so then this recommendation applies to others.

3. If you can find a review/discussion book on the Talmud, there are some translated into Indonesian Language, most are in Arabic Language.

4. If you can also read up on the Old & New Testament and the Holy Quran, you'll find in them descriptions of the Jews and their hollier than thou nature, why they are the way they are, and how they've incurred Allah SWT wrath on them since the time of prophets Musa and Harun a.s.(don't much about the time bfore that and the alkitab Zabur).

Then maybe we'll understand that there is absolutely no point in arguing with Jews or the Masons. They fear no one including Allah ( or Elah or Yahweh in their language.)

The occupation in Palestine happened coz the Rabbis are taking seriously the promised that Allah made to them, i.e to make Jerusalem as their ruling capital of the world (but they always conveniently forget that the promise came with conditions), and that they can only start worshipping Allah when they are all back in Jerusalem (among others).

Wallahualam. Peace be upon all of us.

to ygalg
tahir56:-To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: "You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God’s chosen people and all the gentiles are “human animals” (animal souls in human bodies), killing of whom does not make your God unhappy with you."

ygalg:-where HANAN or his suporters claimed that? BTW not all who align to his line of thought are jews.
tahir56:- Perhaps HANAN never said this at this debate but tell me if this is not the case, and jews don’t believe they are the God’s chosen people?
ygalg:- there is no perhaps. you made a blatant accusation. "You claim", further falsifies that jews are taught 'gentiles are “human animals”'.
for the "God chosen people" it's biblical. the jews "have" to believe that. for further elobration, here a good place to get it from.
http://islamfactor.org/index.php?showtopic=608 another thing. you may not respect me and others who have opposite views.
but please, respect the 'host'. don't distort the truth. and that request is also addresses others.
tahir56:- you accused me of a “blatant accusation” and the said the God chosen people is biblical so where is the “accusation” you are accepting my point. Thank you, you don’t have to tell me to respect the host, I know how much respect I have for him and I know about your level of respect for him as well.

2:- "Killing another human being means to you just like hunting a bird or shooting a rabbit, so you can kill without any sense of guilt."

ygalg:-who kill who here?

tahir56:- This is a question you should be asking your self; is the recent Genocide in Gaza not an enough example?
ygalg:-please provide evidences, that 'fit' to the definition 'genocide'. good luck.
tahir56:- I will come to this point later
3:- "You are the God’s chosen people yet you are not willing to die to be with your God, you are so afraid of death that you don’t want to burry your dead, (Ariel Sharon)."

ygalg:isn't god theologically speaking everywhere? were you not against taking human life? isn't god forbids human sacrifice in Koran and the bible?

tahir56:- Its not about taking life or human sacrifice, it’s about burying the dead. It’s about in the company of your God. Let him be with his God.
ygalg:- isn't 'burning the death' is non 'monotheistic' procedure?
tahir56:- you seems to be deliberately trying jumping over or going around the issue, not getting to the core of the point, who on earth is saying to take someone’s life or make human sacrifice or burn the dead, the man is dead by all definitions of medical sciences yet you don’t want dig a grave in the ground and put him in there; so the God’s chosen person be in the company of his God; you may say the decision has to be made by his family. Who cares here about the “Butcher of Beirut” let him suffer. By the way please enlighten all the readers here how “Death can be burnt”?
4: "You have brains like any other human being and of course you use them very well but in a satanic manner, you have so many Noble prize winners, let me tell you the secret how, even your “declared terrorists” can also win a Nobel Peace Prize."

ygalg:- misuse of the nobel prize it's a shame. I mostly agree. still when Menachem Begin recieved the price, the "irgun" was dismantled long time ago. and he gain it for giving a peace a chance. where arafat on the other hand gain it while still active and never meant to abandon the way of terror.

tahir56:- Dismantling “Irgun” does not wash the blood off Begin’s hands, the fact remains that he was declared a terrorist and there was a bounty on his head, and by the way “Irgun” and similar Jewish paramilitary terrorist outfits and militias were never dismantled, they were rather merged in to IDF which very much existed when Begin was given the Peace Prize and it is in existence today.
ygalg:- unlike Islamic terrorists, irgun warned about bombing and gave time to evacuate the building. the British officers ignored the warning except for one officer. the blood of these people he indeed responsible of. the Nobel prize he received together with Anwar Sadat (his hands are not clean either) which initiated by carter. for making 'peace'. IDF is not a 'partizan'.
tahir56:- you are trying to say here that your terrorism is “GOOD TERRORISM” because you give warning before bombings therefore all the killings resulting from it appreciable, strange logic, but how about the responsibility for murders. IDF is very much part and parcel of all this because the very core; the basis; the foundation of IDF is erected on “terrorism” and this is how it has always conducted it self.
5: "1976, the hijacking of the Air France plane to Uganda, remember “Operation Thunderbolt” your than Defense Minister and current President Shimon Perez (a Nobel Peace Prize winner himself) is on record to say “ We offered Edi Amin to be given a Noble Peace Prize if he cooperated in securing the release of the hostages” (Al Jazira / Riz Khan show), proving the Noble committees approving the awards are controlled by the Jews."

ygalg:-al jazira is your source? LOL. how about providing a credible source?
tahir56:- I am sorry I have mixed up the source here in fact the source of the said quote is a documentary by “National Geographic / Situation Critical / Operation Thunderbolt” your source right? Happy now? Actually on Aljazeera he admitted to be part of “Hagnah” another of your terror outfits. Sorry for the mix up but whether it is my source or your source if the person says it by his own mouth in front of a camera and it goes on Air the source is always credible because it is coming from the person’s mouth.
ygalg:- I googled "National Geographic / Situation Critical / Operation Thunderbolt" the clip that was available, have not displayed what you claimed. perhaps you can direct me to the link for the specific clip you were pointing out. I did however found this:
"The strangest meeting of all to take place during that day was in Shimon Peres’ office, where the Defense Minister was picking the brains of a handful of air force and army officers who were personally acquainted and even friendly with Idi Amin. Slowly but surely, Peres was putting together a psychological profile of the African dictator - including details like Amin’s ambition to be awarded the Nobel prize for Peace"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/856182/posts
peres can only recommend nomination. he cannot demand that Nobel prize would be given. you suggested that jews control the Nobel prize. is baseless accusation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize#Nominations
tahir56:- since National Geographic is your source the clip might have been removed, I saw it on air, but anyway you have made my job easy by admitting to half of the point (recommending nomination). In diplomatic world most things are understood rather than said.
6: 1946, King David hotel bombing in Jerusalem in which more than 90 people died “Irgun” was found to be responsible and its chief “Menachem Begin” was declared the “BRAIN” behind the terrorist attack and there was a ten thousand Pound bounty on his head. 1979 the same BRAIN received the Nobel Peace Prize. You see how brilliant “BRAINS” you have.

ygalg:-Menachem Begin earned it by making peace with Egypt. Arafat deceive people to believe he earned it.
tahir56:- Again it does not wash his blood soaked hands and entitle him for the award, in fact Israel has never meant “giving peace a chance” because it would mean giving up all the illegally captured lands, which Israel will never do voluntarily.

ygalg:-of the objectives to award Nobel 'peace' Price is to play as encouragement to the two participants to give up on war. Menachem begin and Anwar Sadat accomplished that and for it they were entitled award. you don't find it appropriate, appeal complain to Jimmie carter it was his recommendation. you distorting the meaning of 'peace'. 'peace' does not indulge to commit national suicide. peace is when two sides are giving each other fair solution. for the illegally captured lands; The Pot Calling The Kettle Black
tahir56:- here again you are trying to go around the core of the point; wasn’t Begin a “declared a terrorist”? Wasn’t there a bounty on his head? You have admitted that he was responsible for the blood of the people killed in the attack. It doesn’t make any difference whether he was nominated by Jimmy Carter, George Washington or Abraham Lincoln, why on earth the Nobel Committee approving his nomination was blind to his past if indeed it was not controlled by Jews and that is exactly the proof of my point. Action speaks louder than words.
What exactly in your opinion is the “fair solution” whether the pot calls the cattle black or the other way around the fact will always remain that the state of Israel was created on stolen; snatched and grabbed Palestinian lands, this is an historic fact which nobody can deny. What you are trying to do here is like a thief demanding to be recognized as the legitimate owner of the goods he/she has stolen. The world is never going to accept that, no matter what you say.
WITH REFFERENCE TO YOUR CHALLENGE REGARDING MY POINT NO 2 (THE GENOCIDE IN GAZA) I WANT TO POST SOME PICTURES HERE AND I WOULD STRONGLY APEAL TO TUN DR MAHATHIR NOT TO BLOCK THEIR PUBLICATION BECAUSE THIS IS HISTORIC EVIDENCE AND WE OWE IT TO THE PEOPLE OF PALESTINE.

YOU DO THIS TO AN ANIMAL IN THE SO CALLED “CIVILIZED” WESTERN WORLD, AND YOU WILL BE CHARGED UNDER THE “CRUELTY TO ANIMALS” LEGISLATIONS OF THOSE COUNTRIES BUT THE PALETINIANS DIDN’T HAD PROTACTION EVEN UNDER THOSE LAWS.

USE OF WHITE PHOSPHORUS ON CIVILIAN POPULATION.

A picture says a thousand words but this picture is saying hundreds of millions of words, an unborn baby deliberately shot in the mother’s womb, yglag! I don’t know whether by gender you are a male, female or something in between, but at least you must be a human being, tell me if any women in the world would want this to happen to herself. By the way enlighten all the readers of this blog as to how the “IDF TERRORIST” who took this shot, KNEW that this unborn was a potential Hamas fighter, and how else would you describe it other than “GENOCIDE”?????????????????????????

Angsana Rimbun,

you made a statement that sparks curiosity:

"It seems that you are better and well-behaved than our Prophet.....Why dont you use your "kindness (as oppose to terror" and create a new religion....let's see how many billion people will follow you."

That statement conveys that religion, Prophet Mohd.'s religion in particular, is started by "kind" people... So, in particular, Prophet Mohd.'s religion has nothing divine by that argument. And it follows that all the jihadist movements in the name of god are made up... So, that means...

Perang Khandak: Angkara Yahudi Bani Quraizah
Oleh: Tuan Guru Hj Nik Abd Aziz Nik Mat
http://www.mail-archive.com/hizb@hizbi.net/msg07160.html

DI ANTARA perkara utama yang dilaksanakan oleh Nabi s.a.w. selepas berhijrah ke Madinah, ialah mengatasi masalah dengan penduduk berbilang kaum dan agama di Madinah melalui perjanjian Madinah (Shahifah Madinah), khususnya dengan orang-orang Yahudi ahli kitab.

Kandungan perjanjian itu antara lain ialah jaminan dari kerajaan Islam Madinah, menyentuh soal memberikan hak kebebasan semua warga Madinah untuk melakukan kegiatan ekonomi dan sosial, kebebasan mengamalkan ajaran agama dan budaya masing-masing.

Jika sesuatu kaum menghadapi ancaman dari pihak lain, adalah menjadi kewajipan kaum-kaum lain yang sama terikat dengan perjanjian itu untuk membantu. Mereka mempertahankan keselamatan pihak-pihak yang terikat dalam perjanjian itu, sebagai satu tanggungjawab menjaga kesejahteraan dan keamanan.

Selain itu, warga Madinah diikat dengan suatu tanggungjawab dan kewajipan menjaga keamanan negara. Jika Negara Islam Madinah menghadapi ancaman dari mana-mana jua, warga Madinah dari semua etnik sama ada dari keturunan Yahudi atau Arab mempunyai tanggungjawab yang sama untuk mempertahan keselamatan negara.

Semua warga negara Madinah menikmati suasana aman damai dengan perjanjian Madinah yang dipersetujui bersama, sama ada oleh bangsa Arab yang pelbagai keturunan dan juga Yahudi yang pelbagai puak. Berbilang kaum dan pelbagai agama serta anutan tidak menghalang penduduk Madinah mengecapi perdamaian.

Malangnya dalam perang Khandak ini puak Yahudi bani Quraizah telah mencabul perjanjian yang telah dipersetujui bersama itu.

Peristiwa itu bermula apabila seorang tokoh Yahudi bani Nadir bernama Huyayi bin Ahtok telah menemui tokoh Yahudi bani Quraizah bernama Ka'ab bin Asad. Huyai menjalankan kempen awal mempengaruhi Ka'ab supaya yahudi bani Quraizah membatalkan perjanjian dengan Nabi s.a.w..

Huyai bersedia untuk memimpin delegasi memujuk Arab Quraisy Makkah dan juga Arab Ghatfan serta para pembesar di kalangan mereka, untuk mengadakan pakatan memerangi nabi s.a.w.. Huyai telah mengatur pertemuan dengan dua puak Arab itu di suatu tempat bernama Zanab Nuqma.

Kempen yang dijalankan oleh Huyai itu bertujuan supaya ketua Yahudi bani Quraizah, iaitu Ka'ab bin Asad membatalkan perjanjian mereka dengan Nabi Muhammad s.a.w.. Mengikut rancangan Huyai bahawa yahudi bani Quraizah pimpinan Ka'ab bin Asad akan berhimpun di sebelah Uhud.

Sementara Arab Quraisy dan juga Arab bani Ghatfan bergabung dalam satu pasukan, mereka telah memberi pengakuan mengerahkan pasukan perangnya. Mereka hanya akan berhenti apabila sebaik saja menjejakkan kaki di Madinah. Pasukan terbesar ini akan mencabut segala akar umbi kepimpinan Nabi s.a.w. yang telah menubuhkan negara Islam Madinah.

Strategi yang disusun oleh Huyai ketua Yahudi bani Nadir itu menjadikan Madinah terkepung dari semua penjuru. Semuanya untuk meyakinkan Ka'ab bin Asad, bahawa gerakan penentangan terhadap Muhammad s.a.w. dan kaum muslimin Madinah ini, memerlukan kerjasama kukuh dari Yahudi bani Quraizah.

Pada pendapat ketua Yahudi bani Nadir, jika Yahudi bani Quraizah masih terikat dengan perjanjian Shahifah Madinah yang ditanda tangani bersama Nabi s.a.w., sudah tentu rancangan menghancurkan agama yang dibawa oleh Muhammad akan menemui kegagalan.

Sebab itulah Ka'ab bin Asad ketua Yahudi bani Quraizah dibawa bersama dalam delegasi mengatur kesepakatan membentuk tentera al-Ahzab itu, agar rancangan menghancurkan agama Muhammad itu mencapai kejayaan yang diimpikan.

Pada peringkat awal, Ka'ab bin Asad enggan mengikut rancangan Huyai bin Ahtok, kerana Ka'ab masih tetap menghargai perjanjian yang telah dimeterai bersama dengan Nabi Muhammad s.a.w.. Ka'ab sebagai seorang ulama Yahudi tahu akibat orang yang mengkhianati perjanjian, iaitu mereka akan menerima kehinaan sepanjang hayat.

Ka'ab menolak rancangan Huyai kerana kehidupan Yahudi bani Quraizah di Madinah bergantung rapat dengan perjanjian yang dimeterai bersama Muhammad s.a.w.. Dia lebih selesa hidup dalam keadaan terikat dengan perjanjian tersebut, saling bantu-membantu untuk mengekalkan keamanan yang dinikmati bersama sejak empat tahun lalu di negara Madinah yang dihuni oleh pelbagai etnik dan agama.

Menurut Ka'ab, sepanjang perjanjian dengan Muhammad selama empat tahun berlalu, semua berjalan dalam keadaan baik. Kaab mengakui bahawa Muhammad s.a.w. adalah orang yang amat setia dengan janji. Dia tidak pernah lihat dalam diri Muhammad itu melainkan benar dan setia dengan janji.

Huyai tidak mudah mengalah dalam isu ini, walaupun Ka'ab tetap menunjukkan keengganannya untuk bergabung dalam pakatan itu, namun dia tidak putus asa. Dia seorang Yahudi yang sangat licik dan pintar dalam segala putar belit.

Huyai mengingatkan Ka'ab bahawa Muhammad adalah orang buruan yang menumpang hidup di Madinah. Penduduk Makkah telah menghambatnya hingga dia terpaksa lari malam meninggalkan kampung halaman. Tiba-tiba Yahudi bani Quraizah yang sudah sekian lama bertapak di Madinah, terpaksa mengikat setia dengan seorang pelarian.

Ka'ab diperlekeh oleh Huyai atas pendiriannya, terikat dengan perjanjian dengan seorang buruan dari negara lain, tanpa memiliki apa-apa yang boleh dibanggakan. Di manakah kewajaran Ka'ab yang mengetuai Yahudi bani Quraizah, sanggup mengikat diri dan kaumnya dalam satu perjanjian yang hanya menguntungkan Muhammad dan orang-orang pelarian yang bersamanya. Kerana dengan perjanjian itu, orang-orang pelarian pimpinan Muhammad hidup aman dan dilindungi oleh penduduk asal Madinah.

Apakah yang bangsa Yahudi bani Quraizah dapat dari kesetiaannya mengikat diri dengan perjanjian itu? Tanya Huyai kepada Ka'ab. Jika bani Quraizah bersama dalam rancangan yang membabitkan Arab Quraisy yang menguasai Makkah, bererti mendukung satu tugas mulia membebaskan Madinah dari cengkaman orang-orang pelarian yang diketuai oleh Muhammad.

Huyai meyakinkan Ka'ab, bahawa Makkah berada dalam kekuasan sekutu mereka, dan Madinah pula akan dikuasainya selepas Muhammad dan orang-orangnya dicabut kekuasaannya di Madinah. Ini bererti satu pembebasan dari belenggu penguasaan pendatang asing.

Apakah kemuliaan yang diperolehi berkawan dan berjanji setia dengan orang-orang pelarian yang hidup menumpang di Madinah. Lebih baik mengikat pakatan dengan Arab Quraisy Makkah, kerana mereka orang-orang bertanggungjawab menjaga Ka'bah. Mereka mempunyai kekayaan harta yang membolehkan jalinan perdagangan antara saudagar-saudagar Yahudi Madinah dengan para saudagar Arab Makkah yang menjanjikan keuntungan yang besar.

Sungguh hebat hujah-hujah yang dikemukakan oleh Huyai bagi mengubah pendirian Ka'ab, yang peringkat awalnya begitu setia dengan perjanjian yang dimeterai bersama Muhammad s.a.w.. Tetapi akhirnya Ka'ab terpengaruh dengan segala alasan dan hujah yang dikemukan oleh Huyai ketua Yahudi bani Nadir itu.

Cair juga akhirnya pendirian Ka'ab. Dia setuju untuk menyertai pakatan yang diatur oleh Huyai. Dengan itu bererti Yahudi bani Quraizah telah mengakhianati perjanjian Madinah. Perubahan sikap Yahudi bani Quraizah itu menyebabkan suasana kota Madinah menjadi tegang. Mereka sudah berada di ambang peperangan yang besar.

Assalamualaikum Tun;

To HANAN and BLADELIZARD,

Hope to get your feedback of my last article dated Feb 16,2009

Finally someone said it right, tq RyscheClyde

your no. 6 comment is the best advise of all.....tq so much

im out.

May peace be upon all mankind.

Dear BladeLizard

It seems that you are better and well-behaved than our Prophet.....Why dont you use your "kindness (as oppose to terror" and create a new religion....let's see how many billion people will follow you. People surely hate terror, the prophet who spreads religion thru hatred must not be able to attract a large number of followers. But can you tell me how many muslims now in the world? What's the fastest growing religion now? Islam spreads the world over, in many countries, many different races,tribes,nations not only the Arab etc. That last until now........Islam is still here.

Do you read the Quran? Yes it's in Arabic. If you are Arab (sorry I know you hate Arab), and you know the language, it doesn't mean that you will understand the book. Quran is not history book, you must learn the religion and understand it so that you could interpret the meaning of every word and phrase in the book. That's why even the Arab that understand Arabic,have different interpretation regarding certain things in the Quran.....and there are different sect of Islam.....Sunni,Shi.....Sufi....Alawite etc.......why is that so?

You understand English and you can read our constitution, it doesnt mean that you can become lawyer or judge. You have to learn law, right? You understand english and you read computer book,doesnt mean you can become a programmer.

The prophet married 11 wife, 2 of them are Jews. Only one are virgin. You call that sex maniac? You dont have to marry anybody if what you are thinking is all about sex.....just do it.....no need to marry....you are powerful...why marry? Marriage means you have the responsibilty to your wives. Do you have a wife? Why do you marry her,if you have one?

Jews are massacred...because they are not truthful, when they enter into agreement.........they break it.....that's it.

The Prophet Of Terror and The Religion Of Peace, are you the writer of that articles?

All that is said in the article........happened 2000 years ago...Now we have happened in front of our very eyes it's not even ten years.....it is just last month (Gaza massacre). and still continue.................my fren.

You keep saying we are the slave of the Arab (the Master you said)....and I have to say you are the slave of the Jews......(US n Israel)

Dear all,

1. There is no point arguing with the JEWS. You can write what ever you think is right, you can condemn the JEWS, but right now at this very moment (while you reading my comment, you're actually using JEWISH product).

2. The JEWS are an arrogant people, Ive met few Israelites and I did try to have a conversation with them- but they are not friendly. Especially when they know that you're a muslim.

3. The ZIONIST ultimate goal is to widened their land as big as they can get. But first they need to crush the Muslims. Then followed by Christians,Hinduism,Bhuddism, and so on..Because the ZIONIST want their city to be the central command HQ of the entire EARTH.

4. Ive nothing much to say about the JEW, all I can say personally- that they are arrogant, an opportunist, cold hearted, and a twisted mind.

5. My advice to anyone who come across with the JEW- Just avoid them. Dont talk..dont even look at their eyes..for it will curse you till death. JUST IGNORE- if a jewish move into your neighbour hood- pack your things and move somewhere else- cause a single jew in a community can create a dissasterous problem that will bring disunity. AND THAT IS FACT

6. JUST IGNORE- TURN YOURSELF AWAY- AVOID..just KEEP ON AVOID..

*yawn* *yawn*...peace and harmony. I've heard that since ...hm cant remember........can someone recall how many time the brains & leaders of the world discuss on peace...the UN, the US, the Arab League.

Malaysian, China, Japanese, Koreaa & most of the eastern region are in peace (for the time being). While the western has been in war since......hm again i cant remember.

and there will only be peace if people around the Globe if mankind submit purely to the Lord of ALL creation

To all who have commented before me,
I understand how you may be angry because this person called Hanan dares to defend the Jewish community when we know so well that they are nothing but treacherous murderers and cheats.
However, most of your attempts to put him in his place are failing as the name-calling and angry rants only succeed in degrading your credibility. Frankly, in the eyes of an outsider, the only ones deserving respect or even consideration are Dr Mahathir and Hanan himself. Except for a handful who have managed to keep their head, only Dr Mahathir and Hanan have been arguing rationally, using facts and fairly formed opinion (not without basis or reason) to uphold their stand.
Please, fellow commentors, do not disgrace ourselves. Indeed, Malaysians are said to be known for our Budi Bahasa. Let's not forget that ourselves. Argue fairly. Otherwise, its just turning into racism.

Assalamualaikum Tun,

My last comment did not appear here Tun, got lost in transit I presume. Did you have anything to do with it, Tun? Never mind, maybe it doesn't deserve to be read.

The heat in this section is becoming quite unbearable Tun, tugs of words and fists of fury. Wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone is able to exchange ideas and knowledge and try to communicate intellectually and in a respectful manner and behaviour without intimidating and scoffing and gibing each other.

Insults on one's belief and religion has been a domineering topic here. If this is allowed to go on, immense enemosity will emerge and this will hinder the right thinking minds people to express themselves professionally thus a tendency to act or to hit back impulsively. We should not embroil in this manner anymore but instead aspire to find peace, make peace, uphold peace and embrace peace.

Scars resulting from wars cannot be erased from memories instantly but hopefully it can be faded away slowly but surely through peace.
Nevertheless Tun to grasp peace in our hands and to feel peace emitting through us is not easy but neither it is impossible. All it takes is to admit that none of us is perfect and mighty above the other. To help the weak and helpless is divine.

Tun, I fully support your every approaches you take to make the world hear and listen to you to make war a crime. This is a very hard task but a very noble one and every human beings who love peace must shoulder this task too and not leave Tun alone to fight on his own.
Tun you're not only a doctor to cure one's wounds but also an architecture of world peace and justice.

Take good care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.

their forefarthers turn their back from an apostle named (Jesus).....who came with CLEAR revelation from GOD.....i.e Cruxifiacation!

and now their descendants demand more facts and figures.......*yawn*

you only being unjust to yourself.....not to others

take care all

assalamualaikum

they refuse to listen to Jesus, Zachariah, Muhammad....who came....with ..GOD revelation....&...miracles...yet..they brand the prophets as ...sorcerer, lunatic and maniac...

...and why should they listen to us....hehehe...such a waste of time arguing with them.

Ali Baba,

Yes, Hanan is " Loughing" at me. Propaganda and History is two different entities. Which you failed to understand both.

I would recommend to you to read it again, eventhough it is very disturbing to your Mohammedan Programmed Mind, which still denies and will continue to deny truth. I , on the other hand would still continue to educate " people" on the fallacies of your sacred belief. And the results are positive so far.

Good luck trying to adjust your mental faculty to the articles. Read and get read. Then if you are brave enough, raise the article contents with your local Imam and see if he himself knows of all this.

Then you decide.

lalok n tidor.

dont confuse it as a deabate, but it is more of a debacle of mohammedans trying to disprove Israel. No matter what any mohammedan say about Israel, they will exist and they will prevail. You know why??? it is the obvious. Israel is not a threat to other arab nations, in which we can see Jordan,egypt,and some other states have embassies and relations wtih them. Even Indonesia has an Israeli embassy there.

Why Malaysians hate Israel?? it is more of a religious zeal than anything else, as shown in your writing below:

"so many prophet was send to guide them to the straight path....ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MANY PROPHETs THEY TRIED TO KILL......and still they think that GOD favoured them.....but yet we are still in debate with them.....funny."

And to me , it is funny for you to champion your Arab Masters.

Adam, Oh Really? Please show me where i choked up on your prophet? And how I insulted your prophet?

Those articles are the obvious reality that you have chosen to close one eyes upon. It is up to you to free yourself. Or remain scared for life.

Assalamualaikum Tun;

Dear Hanan and Bladelizard and all readers.

1) Very very interesting reading your articles. Do you really study Quran and all those hadiths to find the truth or to satisfy your own agenda.???

2) Did JEW get any new prophet that you guys been waiting for ??? Quran said Muhammad is the last prophet and so far I hear no new prophet after him.

3) I am a Muslim and the most important word everyday come out from me and muslim people when we pray, eat or whatever we do always start with BISMILLAH HIRROHMANIR ROHIM and the meaning is "In the name of Allah the" most beneficent and merciful". There are 99 names of Allah can choose i.e the most powerful etc, but why "RAHMAN "( beneficent) and "RAHIM "( merciful). Because ALLAH want all of us His creation (human) to have that kind of attitude ( beneficent and merciful) toward others. There are no problem of Muslim, Jews and Christian only those politician created and continue create all the hatred , wars etc. If all of us are beneficent and merciful towards others , there will be no war. Well to do neighbor will look after hungry and miserable neighbor.

4) Muslim ruled Spain for few hundred years and Palestine Muslim ruled what you call now Israel before. You will never realize how fair their attitude towards non Muslim during those days ( may not be perfect ). Are Palestinian people being fairly treated ???

5) Why not see the beauty of Quran and study the miracles of those verses (the truth of Quran) that only were revealed or proven correct with modern sciences. If those verses were man made then those verses will be revealed as man made by the modern sciences.

6) On the hadith , translation and also your own statement those are merely another type of translation or what you guys think/intepret. For example of Saffiyah there are several way you can put in your head and write what ever your head interpret it . ...

If it is in Quran then I will agree with you as Quran is words of ALLAH by Muslims. If just only based on several hadiths and when there are contradicting against each other , I will throw away all those hadiths as those are man made book like what happen to big portion of Thorah and Bible proven to be man made. Saffiyah may be happily marrying our prophet Muhammad. Do you know the actual ending ????? I believe big NO. So what you put down in writing is actually is an insult. Unless you know the actual incident???How dare you say a word "rape" done by prophet??? Extremely insulting .

7) We the Muslim have to know the 25 Prophets mentioned in Quran whereby Moses and Jesus are among them. We don't dare to judge, criticize or say anything bad about those two Prophets and other Prophets.

8) Quran also said that it will take care of all those verses from any alteration to be done by human kind. If you don't believe in Quran that said Prophet Muhammad is the last Prophet then believe in your Thorah and Bible that said there will be another messenger of GOD.

Unless you have a choice (or proven Prophet Muhammad is not the real or fake Prophet ) then to be safe in the life after death it is better that you believe in Muhammad as the last Prophet as it could also the actual correct or the last messenger sent by god/Allah. Both of you are intelligent and why not take the safest road or at least respect other religions.

9) If you study Quran. Allah always use the phraise " YA AIYUHALLAZI NA A MANU WA A MI LUSSOLEHAT" where it refer to all those person with "faith " (iman) and do good deeds (soleh)" . SO for Allah the heaven is not just for Muslim but to those that have faith and also good persons. I believe that all those with faith and always do good things are all Muslim in the eyes of Allah /God. In fact we the Muslim believe that if we die with the LAILLAHAILLALLAH (shahadah) is said by us ( No other god beside ALLAH) we have 100% change go to heaven eventhough we have the taste the hell" first for some of the sins.

It is not fair that Allah/GOD will chose only one religion or one group of races to go to heaven ... then the rest go to hell. Then why GOD created so many races/colours/etc and put certain chosen race/religion to heaven and the rest to go to hell. God is at the fault then. If you read Quran carefully then you will understand that what ever religious you are and if you truly with ggod faith (iman) and do so many good deeds ( soleh) then no problem the Angle (or Gabriel ) that take your life away will accept you to go to heaven or teach you to say the shahadah in what ever languages/religions etc as long as it is acceptable by GOD/Allah. ... up to Allah. I will not accept a religion that say only that is the only religion that will take you to heaven ,then what happen to rest .That is the beauty of Islam.

10) In fact we should learn and respect all other religions and will not be wrong in the after life as you will get one of it to be right if you accept /respect all religions. World will be very boring if only one language/one race/one culture/one skin colour. I love those varieties.

11) There are a lot of things in Quran that make me have such faith and believe in it. It is not just because I was borne as a Muslim . How Quran explain about creation of human/babies it is proven right only after modern science, about universe etc are proven correct.... and it also said Muhammad is the last prophet whereby until now there is yet to appear new prophet.

12) Why not treat all human kind as your own family, if you truly believe we all come from ADAM ( also first human and first prophet for Muslim). Then let Palestine people to have their life what you want your family to live. Then for sure they will love you instead of hate you.

But first both of you, Hanan and BladeLizard need to kill that hatred toward Palestine and Muslim first as if you don't kill that hatred then you kill the people because of hatred. What happen in Palestine and your country is not because of killing the bad people will solve the problem. It is to kill the hatred in order to save people/children/culture etc....

13 I do hope Hanan and Bladelizard will not put more things on the screen or no more reason people to keep on hatred at each other. Why not putting something how they can work together and love each other. How many children/people you want to see to get kill because a lot of politicians have that such of piece of mind like you??? Please deeply think about it...there are millions good muslims , jew, christian etc . I sincerely hope Hanan and Bladelizard to do better thing in life by really or remotely adapting a Palestinian suffering kid and save that kid from hating you to loving you . Just kill all your hatred ... ALL OF YOU.....If you cannot adopt the Palestinian kid then please study or do research and then write us an article how to kill those hatred in order to save innocent kids/human beings. I challenge you to do this!!!

Regards/Salam

Peace for all of us.

to lalok n tidor

logically would be if you provided factual details to confirm Islam is true. you done none of it. except lots of "hurrays"

to tahir56

"1A:- Perhaps HANAN never said this at this debate but tell me if this is not the case, and jews don’t believe they are the God’s chosen people?"
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there is no perhaps. you made a blatant accusation. "You claim", further falsifies that jews are taught 'gentiles are “human animals”'.
for the "God chosen people" it's biblical. the jews "have" to believe that. for further elobration, here a good place to get it from.
http://islamfactor.org/index.php?showtopic=608

another thing. you may not respect me and others who have opposite views.
but please, respect the 'host'. don't distort the truth. and that request is also addresses others.

"2A:- This is a question you should be asking your self; is the recent Genocide in Gaza not an enough example?"
please provide evidences, that 'fit' to the definition 'genocide'. good luck.

"3A:- Its not about taking life or human sacrifice, it’s about burring the dead. It’s about in the company of your God. Let him be with his God."
isn't 'burning the death' is non 'monotheistic' procedure?

"4A:- Dismantling “Irgun” does not wash the blood off Begin’s hands, the fact remains that he was declared a terrorist and there was a bounty on his head, and by the way “Irgun” and similar Jewish paramilitary terrorist outfits and militias were never dismantled, they were rather merged in to IDF which very much existed when Begin was given the Peace Prize and it is in existence today."
unlike Islamic terrorists, irgun warned about bombing and gave time to evacuate the building. the British officers ignored the warning except for one officer.
the blood of these people he indeed responsible of. the Nobel prize he received together with Anwar Sadat (his hands are not clean either) which initiated by carter. for making 'peace'. IDF is not a 'partizan'.

"5A:- I am sorry I have mixed up the source here in fact the source of the said quote is a documentary by “National Geographic / Situation Critical / Operation Thunderbolt” your source right? Happy now? Actually on Aljazeera he admitted to be part of “Hagnah” another of your terror outfits. Sorry for the mix up but whether it is my source or your source if the person says it by his own mouth in front of a camera and it goes on Air the source is always credible because it is coming from the person’s mouth."
I googled "National Geographic / Situation Critical / Operation Thunderbolt" the clip that was available, have not displayed what you claimed. perhaps you can direct me to the link for the specific clip you were pointing out. I did however found this:
"The strangest meeting of all to take place during that day was in Shimon Peres’ office, where the Defense Minister was picking the brains of a handful of air force and army officers who were personally acquainted and even friendly with Idi Amin. Slowly but surely, Peres was putting together a psychological profile of the African dictator - including details like Amin’s ambition to be awarded the Nobel prize for Peace"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/856182/posts

peres can only recommend nomination. he cannot demand that Nobel prize would be given. you suggested that jews control the Nobel prize. is baseless accusation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Peace_Prize#Nominations

6A:- Again it does not wash his blood soaked hands and entitle him for the award, in fact Israel has never meant “giving peace a chance” because it would mean giving up all the illegally captured lands, which Israel will never do voluntarily.

of the objectives to award Nobel 'peace' Price is to play as encouragement to the two participants to give up on war. Menachem begin and Anwar Sadat accomplished that and for it they were entitled award. you don't find it appropriate, appeal complain to Jimmie carter it was his recommendation.

you distorting the meaning of 'peace'. 'peace' does not indulge to commit national suicide. peace is when two sides are giving each other fair solution.

for the illegally captured lands; The Pot Calling The Kettle Black

Dear Hanan,

Hanan: What about Muslims pretending being experts in Judaism or Christianity?
Ali Baba: Propaganda, if suddenly he raises and criticizes the Judaism or Christianity with his limited knowledge about it. My knowledge about Zionism and Talmud is limited, that’s why I’m asking you for it and not criticizing it. I don't want to make me look foolish. Thank you for your Zionism explanation.

Hanan: When someone is saying something opposed to your opinion, does it mean it is propaganda?
Ali Baba: Yes, if not relevant to the subject. What else do you think his objective? Unless he's stupid.

Hanan: Everyone bears close to him what he believes is the truth.
Ali Baba: That’s everyone’s right, but not everyone suppose to bear close to him.

Hanan: When you say it is propaganda it is not proving that what you say is true and not proving that BladeLizard is wrong.
Ali Baba: Not apply to all, even both of us don’t know who agree with me and proving BladeLizard is wrong.

Hanan: I think, in counter to you, I'm reading most of the comments here even I disagree many of them and try to see if they are still valid as truth. I'm not saying that the things I dont like are propaganda.
Ali Baba: You have the right to disagree with the ones you know are propaganda or truth, and you’re free to say it if you want to express it. I’m not forcing you to follow me and you can’t force me to follow you. I’m just forcing myself to think, feel and express honestly and objectively at my best to get the truth.

Regards.

Assalamualaikum,

Hehehe, it's funny to see a lot of intellectual debate between the so called Children of Israel versus Moslems.......

so many times the Children of Israel turns their back from GOD since the days of Moses till the day of Elijah, John and etc.

so many prophet was send to guide them to the straight path....ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MANY PROPHETs THEY TRIED TO KILL......and still they think that GOD favoured them.....but yet we are still in debate with them.....funny.

bear the fact that...most Christians in Europe now see Islam as the true revelation from GOD. and most of these Chrisitians (prior becoming a Moslem) spent most of their time doing research on Judaism, Islam and Christianity.

After those thorough research, it was Islam that they chose, the Muslim did not pursuade them neither the Moslem did not threaten them. Simply & logically because, they see Islam is the religion for mankind.

Islam is for CHinese, Islam is for the poor, Islam is for the Austronesian, Islam is for Arabs, Islam is for Hindi, Tamil, Sikh....Islam is for Irish, Islam is for the CHilrend of Israel, Islam is for ALL.

GOD creates mankind from Adam and all mankind are only servant to GOD and all shall return to GOD and be judge justly.

O people of Israel, please do not turn your back from GOD, the end is near. FEAR GOD AND ONLY GOD.....commit to the teaching of Abraham pbuh, Ishmael pbuh, Isaac pbuh, Jacob pbuh, Moses pbuh, Jesus pbuh and Muhammad pbuh. seek the truth and that truth will guide you.

MERCIFUL GOD OF ALL CREATION,
GUIDE US TO THE STRAIGHT PATH, THE PATH OF WHOM YOU FAVOURED. NOT THE PATH OF THOSE WHO INCURRED YOUR DISPLEASURE AND OF THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ASTRAY.

Bladelizard, your words choked in the web of ignorant.

If I read it clearly, there is a phrases in your comment insulting the prophet.

Muslim readers, do not be fooled by him.

to ygalg
To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: "You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God’s chosen people and all the gentiles are “human animals” (animal souls in human bodies), killing of whom does not make your God unhappy with you."
1:where HANAN or his suporters claimed that? BTW not all who align to his line of thought are jews.
1A:- Perhaps HANAN never said this at this debate but tell me if this is not the case, and jews don’t believe they are the God’s chosen people?

2: "Killing another human being means to you just like hunting a bird or shooting a rabbit, so you can kill without any sense of guilt."
2:who kill who here?
2A:- This is a question you should be asking your self; is the recent Genocide in Gaza not an enough example?
3: "You are the God’s chosen people yet you are not willing to die to be with your God, you are so afraid of death that you don’t want to burry your dead, (Ariel Sharon)."
3:isn't god theologically speaking everywhere? were you not against taking human life? isn't god forbids human sacrifice in Koran and the bible?
3A:- Its not about taking life or human sacrifice, it’s about burring the dead. It’s about in the company of your God. Let him be with his God.

4: "You have brains like any other human being and of course you use them very well but in a satanic manner, you have so many Noble prize winners, let me tell you the secret how, even your “declared terrorists” can also win a Nobel Peace Prize."
4:misuse of the nobel prize it's a shame. I mostly agree. still when Menachem Begin recieved the price, the "irgun" was dismantled long time ago. and he gain it for giving a peace a chance. where arafat on the other hand gain it while still active and never meant to abandon the way of terror.
4A:- Dismantling “Irgun” does not wash the blood off Begin’s hands, the fact remains that he was declared a terrorist and there was a bounty on his head, and by the way “Irgun” and similar Jewish paramilitary terrorist outfits and militias were never dismantled, they were rather merged in to IDF which very much existed when Begin was given the Peace Prize and it is in existence today.

5: "1976, the hijacking of the Air France plane to Uganda, remember “Operation Thunderbolt” your than Defense Minister and current President Shimon Perez (a Nobel Peace Prize winner himself) is on record to say “ We offered Edi Amin to be given a Noble Peace Prize if he cooperated in securing the release of the hostages” (Al Jazira / Riz Khan show), proving the Noble committees approving the awards are controlled by the Jews."
5:al jazira is your source? LOL. how about providing a credible source?
5A:- I am sorry I have mixed up the source here in fact the source of the said quote is a documentary by “National Geographic / Situation Critical / Operation Thunderbolt” your source right? Happy now? Actually on Aljazeera he admitted to be part of “Hagnah” another of your terror outfits. Sorry for the mix up but whether it is my source or your source if the person says it by his own mouth in front of a camera and it goes on Air the source is always credible because it is coming from the person’s mouth.
6: 1946, King David hotel bombing in Jerusalem in which more than 90 people died “Irgun” was found to be responsible and its chief “Menachem Begin” was declared the “BRAIN” behind the terrorist attack and there was a ten thousand Pound bounty on his head. 1979 the same BRAIN received the Nobel Peace Prize. You see how brilliant “BRAINS” you have.
6:Menachem Begin earned it by making peace with Egypt. Arafat deceive people to believe he earned it.
6A:- Again it does not wash his blood soaked hands and entitle him for the award, in fact Israel has never meant “giving peace a chance” because it would mean giving up all the illegally captured lands, which Israel will never do voluntarily.

The Zionist never wanted Peace.

Count Bernadotte, the U.N elected mediator for peace in Palestine.
Assassinated on September 17th 1948 by the Stern Gang.
"The UN mediator was struck by six bullets and died instantly, along with a French officer seated next to him".

Stern Gang leaders, were charged with belonging to a terrorist organization.
Some of the the members of the Stern Gang went on to become a priminister ( Shamir 1983) and members of parliament ( Yellin-Mor ).

If one kills the mediator of peace, one kills peace itself.Therefore, from the onset, Zionism never wanted peace.
Peace would mean giving up the illegal settlements and illegal lands.

Moshe Dayan's Tractors
"I know how at least 80 percent of the clashes there started. In my opinion, more than 80 percent, but let's talk about 80 percent. It went this way: We would send a tractor to plough someplace where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance farther, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was."
-- Moshe Dayan, Israel's former Minister of Defence, describing how to provoke a military incident on the Golan Heights. From a 1976 interview with Yediot Ahronot newspaper, given on condition that it not be published till after his death. Cited in Ari Shavit's The Iron Wall, p.236-237.

The word PEACE ( for the Zionist )is just a hoax!.

Dear Tun,

Remember Shylock?

Israel is a pariah state, an accursed nation.

The Jews betray and kill prophets.

And crucified Jesus Christ.

The Jews are a treacherous people, the source of all

troubles in the world, during ancient times and in the present day.

Shall we forget Shylock and his thirst for Christian blood? As it

was then so it is today. And that is the truth. Don't let us be

deluded.

The crisis nations of the world is grappling with today, the

shutting down of huge industries, and the millions that are forced

out of jobs is directly linked to the criminal greed of banks

owned by Jews.

Through their blinkered view of religion they dare to declare

themselves the chosen of God and falsely believe that they are

the rightful inheritors of this earth and all it's bounty.

As a people History has no lesson for them. They will continue

to rush on, headlong with their boasts and arrogance. And sooner

than later they will find themselves as a people hunted and

persecuted again.

Let all people who believe in religion and True Guidance remember

Shylock, his greed and his evil.

Dear Tun,

Remember Shylock?

Israel is a pariah state, an accursed nation.
The Jews betray and kill prophets.
And crucified Jesus Christ.

The Jews are a treacherous people, the source of all
troubles in the world, during ancient times and in the present day.

Shall we forget Shylock and his thirst for Christian blood? As it
was then so it is today. And that is the truth. Don't let us be
deluded.

The crisis nations of the world is grappling with today, the
shutting down of huge industries, and the millions that are forced
out of jobs is directly linked to the criminal greed of banks
owned by Jews.

Through their blinkered view of religion they dare to declare
themselves the chosen of God and falsely believe that they are
the rightful inheritors of this earth and all it's bounty.

As a people History has no lesson for them. They will continue
to rush on, headlong with their boasts and arrogance. And sooner
than later they will find themselves as a people hunted and
persecuted again.

Let all people who believe in religion and True Guidance remember
Shylock, his greed and his evil.

Dear Ali Baba,

What about Muslims pretending being experts in Judaism or Christianity?
When someone is saying something something opposed to your opinion, does it mean it is propaganda?
Everone bears close to him what he believes is the truth.
When you say it is propaganda it is not proving that what you say is true and not proving that BladeLizard is wrong.
I think, in counter to you, I'm reading most of the comments here even I disagree many of them and try to see if they are still valid as truth. I'm not saying that the things I dont like are propaganda.

Shalom,
Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist.

And for a small note, PKR is a bunch of political losers. Mahatir Velaichan, you made this country. No doubt. But you also ruined it eventually. I wouldnt blame you. One man surrounded by thieves and liars cannot make the majority " approved" decisions.

This is how everything are today after you left it. Corrupt and ruined.

cyborg malaya. Noted. They are Saidina Ali brach of Shiites.Yes alawites are in Tureky and syria. ( Assad family are one of them).

But now it raises the question, why do you label them as " strange"?? because they are not Sunni's? What different are they than say the Sufi's? Bahai's , ahmadites? Let alone the numerous branches of mohammedans that is around and even the Local Ayah Pin gang!
here are a good link on the discussions in FFI

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=285903&sid=98de793900399e8dd0186e0f7b6d10c2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alevi

Ha ha ha............very cheap propaganda by BladeLizard! Non muslim is pretending to be an expert in Islam. What a fool! You're not good enough to be Salman Rushdie nor Geert Wilders. Even Hanan will lough at you. What a pity!

Dear BladeLizard,

You said "Also, Read read read. Dont hate just because you are told to hate" So we are in a reading trip now..........

Anyway have you read the book that you gave us the abstract from?

Alawites rule Syria....who is Alawite? Here is an abstract from http://www.muslimhope.com/Alawites.htm (plesae visit this site to read more.....)

'Alawites are an offshoot of Shi'ites. Some other Muslims, particularly in Syria and Lebanon, accept them as Muslims, but others consider themheretics (ghali) and outside of Islam. 'Alawites have seven pillars of Islam, including Jihad and devotion to 'Ali,who is divine. 'Alawites believe in drinking wine, and they have something similar to a communion service. Tens of thousands of 'Alawites have been killed by other Muslims, but today 'Alawites are in control in the country of Syria.

Who are these people? What do the following have in common: a persecuted people, wild outlaws, a battery-powered electric messiah, and control of the country of Syria today. Who is it that believes in a "Trinity", whose Supreme manifestation is Muhammad, ‘Ali, and Salman al-Farisi? The purposes of this paper are to give both Muslims and non-Muslims a different perspective on the world of Islam, break down stereotypes about Muslim people, and perhaps, through a brief glimpse of the strange ways of the ‘Alawites, you might find some deep things to ponder. We will answer all of these questions, but in order to do so, we have to go back and understand a few things about their origin.

Continue to read further...............................

To Hanan and his Jewish clan.

Yes, Ariel Sharon is the most infamous butcher of the innocent Palestian people- old men and women, mothers, girls and ladies, youngsters, infants, and unborn babies living in refugee camps.

For killing so many innocent Palestinian lives, God has cursed the satanic Ariel for the whole world to bear witness of his crime against Palestinian huminity. His semi-corpse is a testimony akin to the mummified of the Pharoah, whom God had cursed for disobeying and attempting to kill prophet Mosses.

God had gifted the knowledge of building great pyramid to the ancient Egyptian, in order to preserve the corpses of Pharoah for the human race to witness them till the end of the world. The curse of God to the Pharoah is infinite and beyond human immagination. Though the Pharoah had been given the best burial in the great pyramid, but the mother earth herself has been forbidden to take back Pharoah's remains as part of the earth, but to be kept as museum's relics for the entire generation of humanity to bear witness of this great satanic ruler.

I would like to advice the Jewish authority to preserve the semi-corpse of Ariel in a glass box and place in the national Jewish meseum, similar to the famous Pharoah's remains kept at the British meseum.

To Hanan and his Jewish clan.

Yes, Ariel Sharon is the most infamous butcher of the innocent Palestian people- old men and women, mothers, girls and ladies, youngsters, infants, and unborn babies living in refugee camps.

For killing so many innocent Palestinian lives, God has cursed the satanic Ariel for the whole world to bear witness of his crime against Palestinian huminity. His semi-corpse is a testimony akin to the mummified of the Pharoah, whom God had cursed for disobeying and attempting to kill prophet Mosses.

God had gifted the knowledge of building great pyramid to the ancient Egyptian, in order to preserve the corpses of Pharoah for the human race to witness them till the end of the world. The curse of God to the Pharoah is infinite and beyond human immagination. Though the Pharoah had been given the best burial in the great pyramid, but the mother earth herself has been forbidden to take back Pharoah's remains as part of the earth, but to be kept as museum's relics for the entire generation of humanity to bear witness of this great satanic ruler.

I would like to advice the Jewish authority to preserve the semi-corpse of Ariel in a glass box and place in the national Jewish meseum, similar to the famous Pharoah's remains kept at the British meseum.

An article of Mohammedan hate origins against the jews by a dear friend of mine.

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By Syed Kamran Mirza
Mirza.syed@gmail.com
July 6, 2007

In the post 9/11 era of this modern-world, Islamists around the globe are busy with ‘damage control utopia’ in order to correct the image of religion Islam. We all know that the nucleus of Islam are: Quran, Hadiths (Sunnah) supported by Islamic histories and biographies recorded by various famous Islamic scholars and historians. Now, if we read Quran, hadiths and historical accounts (written by famous Muslim and non-Muslim historians) of Islam with our neutral mind-set, we can easily discover myriads of evidences which are the testament of the fact that unlike any other world’s organized religions, Islam was an Arab political and imperialistic ideology which was propagated by the sword.

It is well established fact that Prophet of Islam is well known to this modern world as the most vicious warrior Prophet (involved in hundreds of battles) having an infamous history of myriads of cruelties, killings, plundering, pillages, enslavements, sexual lusts of ludicrous proportion. But so what? Hypocritical Islamists are bent to deny all of the above allegations, and in doing so, they will bring all sorts of ludicrous arguments and ***** and bull story. Very recently, they have started to play ‘hide and seek’ i.e. they want to deny some hadiths and Islamic history when it supports bad thing about Islam; but when comes the good things—they do not hesitate to dig-out any rotten hadiths and historical account to prove goodies of Islam. This is of course an unadulterated double-standard. This article will attempt to investigate just two (Banu Qurayza and Khaybar) out of many historical incidents happened in the process of total extermination of Jewish tribes from the Arabian Peninsula.

What really happened to Banu Qurayza Jews?

According to “Sirat-a-Rasul” (page 464) by Ibn Ishaq the story goes as follows:

Gist: After the Battle of the Ditch, when the coalition force of Quraish left the battle field, Prophet Muhammad attacked the last of the large Jewish tribes of Medina, the Banu Qurayza. After a 25 days siege, they (Jews) surrender unconditionally. In the end, all 600-700 males of the tribe were killed and the women and children sold into slavery.

Story in details:
The Banu Quraiza Jewish tribe was attacked for not supporting Prophet Muhammad when the Quraish’s coalition force from Mecca attacked Medina (The battle of trench). After the withdrawal of the coalition force the Jews were isolated. Hazrat Ali (ra) sworn that he would never stop until he either storms their garrisons or be killed. As per sahi hadiths (Buchari)—when the Prophet returned from the battle of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and laid down his arms and took a bath, Gabriel came to the apostle wearing an embroidered turban and riding on a mule with a saddle covered with a piece of brocade and asked, “ You have laid down your arms? By Allah, we angels have not laid them down yet and I have just come from pursuing the enemy. 'God commands you, Muhammad, to go to Banu Qurayza. I am about to go to them to shake their stronghold (to terrorize Jews). So set out for them." The Prophet said, "Where to go?" Gabriel said, "Towards this side," pointing towards Banu Quraiza. So the Prophet went out towards them. Below is one master piece Sahi hadith proving the story:

Muslim: Volume 5, Book 59, Number 444:
Narrated by Anas:
“As if I am just now looking at the dust rising in the street of Banu Ghanm (in Medina) because of the marching of Gabriel's regiment when Allah's Apostle set out to Banu Quraiza (to attack them).”

After a continuous siege of 25 days, the Banu Qurayza Jews surrendered to Prophet Muhammad unconditionally. Muhammad ordered that the men be handcuffed, while the women and children were isolated in confinement. Thereupon Al-Aws tribe interceded begging the Prophet to be lenient towards them. Muhammad suggested that Sa‘d bin Mu‘adh, a former ally, be deputed to give verdict about them, and they agreed.

Sa’d bin Mu’adh was the leader of a large Medinan tribe, the Aws (or Aus), some of whom favored old alliances with the Jews. The leader was an elderly man who was seriously wounded in the battle of trench (Source: Ibn Ishaq, p. 462; Watt, Muhammad at Medina, pp. 188-89; 214-17). Sa’d gave the verdict that, "that all the able-bodied (adult) male persons belonging to the tribe should be killed, women and children taken prisoners and their wealth divided among the Muslim fighters." Compassionate Prophet Muhammad answers in endorsement of this: “You have given the judgement of Allah above the seven heavens...”, (Source: Ibn Ishaq, pp. 463-64; Tabari vol. 8, p. 34).

To separate adult men from the pre-pubescent boys, the youngsters were examined and if they had grown any pubic hair, it was enough to behead them (Abu Dawud; see Ibn Ishaq, p. 466)..

Sunan Abu-Dawud-Book 38, No. 4390
Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
“I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.”

The apostle confined them in Medina in the quarter of al-Harith, a woman of B. al-Najjar.

Then the apostle went out to the market of Medina (which is still the market today) and dug trenches in it. Then he sent for them and struck off their heads in those trenches as they were brought out to him in batches. This went on until the apostle made an end of them. Among them was the enemy of Allah Huyayy b. Akhtab and Ka`b b. Asad their chief, and they were brought with their hands bound to their neck by a rope. There were 600 or 700 in all, though some put the figure as high as 800 or 900. Apparently Muhammad himself worked on the digging of the trench into which the massacred Jews were to be thrown. But he did not only take part in those preparations, the formulation of the text states that HE sent for them and STRUCK OFF their heads. Prophet Muhammad also had had huge spoils (Maal-E-Ganimat) from this "final solution" of this richest Jewish tribe of Banu Quraiza.

This next hadith indicates that a woman was delirious. She was killed.

Book 14, Number 2665:
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: “ No woman of Banu [tribe] Qurayzah was killed except one. She was with me, talking and laughing on her back and belly (extremely), while the Apostle of Allah . . . was killing her people with the swords. Suddenly a man called her name: Where is so-and-so? . . . I asked: What is the matter with you? She said: I did a new act. [Aisha] said: The man took her and beheaded her. [Aisha] said: I will not forget that she was laughing extremely although she knew that she would be killed.” (Abu Dawud)

The following narrative says that Prophet Muhammad took one beautiful woman for himself.

The apostle had chosen one of their women for himself, Rayhana bint Amr . . . one of the women of . . . Qurayza, and she remained with him until she died, in his power. The apostle had proposed to marry and put a veil on her, but she said: "Nay, leave me in your power, for that will be easier for me and for you." So he left her. She had shown repugnance towards Islam when she was captured and clung to Judaism. (Ibn Ishaq, p. 466)
Banu Qurayza’s Massacre supported by Merciful Allah:

Evidences from Quranic verses are very clear and surprisingly emphatic. Allah actually celebrated this slaughter and enslavement of Banu Qurayza Jews. That these verses were received during/after the Banu Qurayza incident were supported by most Quranic translators like Maoulana A. Yousuf Ali, Hazrat Maulana mufti Muhammad Shafi, Maulana Muhiuddin Khan etc, and of course, by the most famous Islamic scholar Ibn Ishaq. Merciful Allah promptly sent Qur’anic verses during that period of Banu Qurayza war to justify the cruelty of Prophet Muhammad. Here are some Quranic gems which speak the entire truth about Banu Qurayza massacre:

Quran-33:25- “Allah turned back the unbelievers [Meccans and their allies] in a state of rage, having not won any good, and Allah spared the believers battle. Allah is, indeed, Strong and Mighty.”

Quran-33:26- “And He brought those of the People of the Book [Jewish people of Banu Qurayza] who supported them from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts, some of them you slew (beheaded) and some you took prisoners (captive)”

Quran-33:27- “And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things.” [Merciful Allah asked Prophet Muhammad to confiscate entire properties of surrendered Jews]

Quran-8:67—“It is not fitting for an Apostle that he should have prisoners of war until He thoroughly subdued the land….” (Allah insisting Prophet to kill all the prisoners, and should not keep any surrendered prisoners alive until He (Prophet) occupied entire Arabia.”

Quran-8:17—It is not ye who Slew them; it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it was not Thy act, but God’s…..” (Allah said, the killing of surrendered soldiers were done by the wish of Allah)

These above Quranic verses revealed some unpleasant truths:
The verses: 33:25-27 were revealed to describe Banu Qurayza incident and clearly talking about the unbelievers (Quresh pagans, and their allies Jews of Banu Quraiza). The verse 33:25 told about the retreat of the great force of unbelievers without any success; verse-26 told about how later the traitor Jewish tribe banu Quraiza was raided and seized and Jewish people were terrorized by Muhammad’s army; and verse-33: 27 told—how by the judgement of Sa’d ibn Muaz all the men were slaughtered and women and children were captivated. And Jewish land and property were taken as Booty….Sa’d delivered his justice according to Bible; hence Muhammad said—“your judgenet was like God.”

Allah permited the enslavement and beheading of Jews, so any Muslim familiar with the background of this verse knows that beheading as such has been assimilated into the Quran. The word q-t-l in verse-33:26 means slaughter. What is so troubling about the verse is that it seems Allah (Himself) celebrated the "terror" that He threw into the Jews’ hearts. Indeed, when Abu Lubabah the mediator approached the Jews during negotiations, the women and children were crying. Allah of course heavily terrorized them. What a Merciful Allah always resided inside the sleeve of Prophet Muhammad!

The Prophet Muhammad had expelled two other Jewish tribes (Qaynuqa and Nadir) from Medina, so he could have done the same with the Qurayza—as indeed Banu Quryza Jews begged for mercy and requested to let them leave Medina. But the prophet for humanity (?) declined this merciful and humane option.

Quranic Tafsir supported Banu Qurayza massacre:

Maulana A. Yousuf Ali stated: “The men of the Quraiza were slain; the women were sold as captives of war (booty); and their lands and properties were distributed or divided among the Muhajirs (Yousuf Ali’s tafsir for Sura Ahzab)”.

Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi) writes: “Allah ordered Prophet not to keep any war prisoners until entire land is occupied; because by killing enemy prisoners will crush morals of unvbelievers. Some disciples such as Siddique Akbar (ra) suggested tom keep war prisoners to earn ransoms; but Hazrat Omar ibn Khattab (ra) and Hazrat s’aad ibn muaaz (ra) suggested to kill all able-bodied war prisonesrs (In sura A’nfal (#8): Tafsir by Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi).”

Also please read Koranic Tafsir of Sura Ahzab by Maulana Muhiuddin Khan (Saudi aided Bengali translation of Koran)

What Hadiths says about Banu Qurayza massacre?

That Prophet Muhammad systematically eradicated Jews (who actually welcomed him when he fled to Medina from Mecca) from Medina. He beheaded the men and the pubescent boys and enslaved the women and children. In doing this, he wiped out several Jewish tribes "off the map" just the way Iranian Islamic president Ahmdijannbad desires to do same with present day Jews in Israel. These Islamic cruelties were recorded by various sahi hadiths as follows:

Sahi Bukhari :Volume 5, Book 59, Number 443:
Narrated 'Aisha:
When the Prophet returned from the battle of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench) and laid down his arms and took a bath, Gabriel came and said (to the Prophet), “you have laid down your arms? By Allah, we angels have not laid them down yet. So set out for them." The Prophet said, "Where to go?" Gabriel said, "Towards this side," pointing towards Banu Quraiza. So the Prophet went out towards them.

Book 019, Number 4368:
It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Sa'id al-Khudri who said: The people of Banu Quraiza surrendered accepting the decision of Sa'd b. Mu'adh about them. Accordingly, the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent for Sa'd who came to him riding a donkey. When he approached the mosque, the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said to the Ansar: Stand up to receive your chieftain. Then he said (to Sa'd): These people have surrendered accepting your decision. He (Sa'd) said: “You will kill their fighters and capture their women and children.” (Hearing this), the Prophet (may peace be upon him) said: “You have adjudged by the command of God.”

Sahi Bukhari: Book 019, Number 4370:
It has been narrated on the authority of A'isha who said: Sa'd was wounded on the day of the Battle of the Ditch. A man from the Quraish called Ibn al-Ariqah shot at him an arrow which pierced the artery in the middle of his forearm. The Messenger of Allah (may peacce be upon him) pitched a tent for him in the mosque and would inquire after him being in close proximity. When he returned from the Ditch and laid down his arms and took a bath, the angel Gabriel appeared to him and he was removing dust from his hair (as if he had just returned from the battle). The latter said: You have laid down arms. By God, we haven't (yet) laid them down. So march against them. The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) asked: Where? He pointed to Banu Quraiza. So the Messenger of Allah (may peace he upon him) fought against them. They surrendered at the command of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), but he referred the decision about them to Sa'd who said: “I decide about them that those of them who can fight be killed, their women and children taken prisoners and their properties distributed (among the Muslims).”

Volume 4, Book 52, Number 280:
Narrated Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri:
When the tribe of Bani Quraiza was ready to accept Sad's judgment, Allah's Apostle sent for Sad who was near to him. Sad came, riding a donkey and when he came near, Allah's Apostle said (to the Ansar), "Stand up for your leader." Then Sad came and sat beside Allah's Apostle who said to him. "These people are ready to accept your judgment." Sad said, "I give the judgment that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as prisoners." The Prophet then remarked, "O Sad! You have judged amongst them with (or similar to) the judgment of the King Allah."

What else we need to authenticate Banu Qurayza massacre? We have scores of Quranic verses, sahi hadiths along with Islamic historical accounts recorded by the most famous and oldest biographer like Ibn Ishaq which are very strong and unambiguous evidences supporting this heinous act of Prophet Muhammad. How in the world any sane human being can deny such clear evidences from the very nucleus (Quran, sahi Hadisths and biographies) of Islam?

Merciful Allah’s reward (Booty) for Jihadis:

Allah repeatedly promised bountiful rewards for the believers both in this life and afterlife. But Allah never told believers to work hard to get it or to establish industries or business; neither anything which could make economy better, nor any lucrative rewards dropped from the sky! But then, what was the ultimate source of promised bounty for the believers during 7th century period? Answer is, it was BOOTY (spoils) sanctioned by Allah in the holy Quran. Booty was the most cruel and immoral provision practiced by Islamic jihadis, which not even any known ancient invaders (Alexander the Great, Romans, Persians or Assyrians etc.) did practice. Allah’s techniques of making Muslims (believers) richer were simple burglary, plundering and highway robbery (after sudden attack/invading) of Arab’s business caravans, neighboring tribes or sovereign nations. Allah of Islam emphatically encouraged and gave Muslims license to invade, subdue or kill all non-Muslim men and to take their women, children and all properties of the prisoners as booty (Ganimatter Maal). He (Allah) made booty (Ganimater Maal) Halal (lawful) for Muslim warriors. One can find all those tempting verses of Sura Anf’al from Allah inviting Muslims to enjoy booty sanctioned for them. Below are some examples how Quran openly supported Islamic jihadi’s immoral acts:

Quran-8:69—“But (now) enjoy what ye took in war (booty), lawful and good; but fear God…” (Allah encouraging Muslims to accept booty spoils of war “Maal-E-Ganimat”)

Quran-8:1— “They ask thee concerning (things taken as) spoils of war (booty). Say: "(such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Messenger: So fear Allah, and keep straight the relations between yourselves: Obey Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe."

Quran-8:41— “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things.”

One may think that Islamic Allah was (actually) enslaved by Prophet Muhammad. Otherwise how in the world any divine God could allow such cruelest and highly immoral things to happen! Allah readily permitted Prophet Muhammad to take the Jewish clan’s property on the basis of conquest and his possession of all things (Quran-33:27). This is a dubious revelation and reasoning Allah speaks, and this benefits Muhammad materially and politically. This happened too often in Prophet Muhammad’s life. In fact, this “Booty” provision was the most dynamic and lucrative lure or attraction for amassing Arab have-nots (slaves, poor, vagabonds, unemployed destitute) in the Prophet Muhammad’s jihadi cult—in order to become rich by quick method in this life and also enjoy unlimited heavenly pleasures in afterlife!

What really happened to Jews in Khaybar?

Merciful prophet of Islam in his campaign of eradicating all the Jewish tribes (who were most prosperous and rich) from around Medina, he conquered Jewish tribe of Khaybar in May, 628CE. This was a preemptive surprise attack (Gazzowa) or a sudden and unprovoked assault on the Jews of Khaybar. This was a decisive victory for Muslims. The Jews lost ninety-three (93) men while the loss on the Muslim side was only nineteen (19) men. Muhammad took some Khaybar Jews as captives, including Safiyyah bt. Huyayy b. Akhtab, an exquisitely pretty young newly married bride of Kinanah b. al-Rabi b. al-Huqayq. She was the daughter of B. Nadir chief, Huayy b. Akhtab who was beheaded by Muhammad during the slaughtering of B. Qurayzah. Kinanah had recently married Safiyyah, the young, vivacious and pouted daughter of Huyayy and had received a good treasure trove as gift. Muhammad also took two daughters of Safiyaah's paternal uncle.

What sahi Bukhari says about Khaybar episode?

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 59, Number 512:
Narrated by Anas:
The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer near Khaybar when it was still dark and then said, "Allahu-Akbar! Khaybar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a (hostile) nation (to fight), then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned." Then the inhabitants of Khaybar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their warriors killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet . The Prophet made her manumission as her 'Mahr'. Muhammad was sixty (60) when he married Safiyyahh, a young girl of seventeen. She became his eighth wife.

Distribution of war booty in Khaybar:

Sahi Buchari Hadiths #143, page-700: Sulaiman Ibne Harb…Aannas Ibne Malek (ra) narrated, “in the war of Khayber after the inhabitants of Banu Nadir were surrendered, Allah’s apostle killed all the able/adult men, and he (prophet) took all women and children as captives (Ghani mateer maal).. Among the captives Safiyya Bint Huyy Akhtab was taken by Allah’s Apostle as booty whom He married after freeing her and her freedom was her Mahr.”

At first Dihyah al-Kalbi, a Muslim Jihadist asked for Safiyyah. But when Muhammad saw the unparallel beauty of her, he chosen her for himself and gave her two cousin sisters to Dihyah.

Lascivious story supported by sahi hadiths:

(a) Sahi Buchari Hadiths (#149, page-704): Ahmed Ibne Saleh…Annas Ibne Malek narrated, “….when we told Apostle of Allah about the paragon beauty of Safiya Bint Huyay (who was newly wed and the husband was killed in the battle), then Allah’s Apostle sanctioned her for himself…”

(b) Sunan Abu Dawud: Kitab al-Kharaj
Book 19; number 2992
Anas said: Captives were gathered at Khaybar. Dihyah (a jihadi fighter) came and said: “Apostle of Allah, give me a slave-girl from the captives.” He said : Go and take a slave-girl. He took Safiyaah daughter of Huyayy. A man then came to the Prophet (may peace be upon him) and said: “You gave Safiyaah daughter of Huyayy, chief lady of Quraizah and al-Nadir to Dihyah?” This is according to the version of Ya'qub. Then the version goes: “She is worthy of you.” He said: “Call him along with her.” When the Prophet (may peace be upon him) looked at her, he said to him: “Take another slave-girl from the captives. The Prophet (May peace be upon him) then set her free and married her.

(c) Tabari writes: "After the Messenger of God conquered al-Qamus, the fortress of Ibn Abi al-Huqyaq, Safiyyah bt. Huyayy b. Akhtab was brought to him, and another woman with her. Bilal, who was the one who brought them, led them pat some of the slain Jews. When the woman who was with Safiyyah saw them, she cried out, struck her face, and poured dust on her head. When the Messenger of God saw her, he said, "Take this she-devil away from me!" she commanded that Safiyyah should be kept behind him and that the Messenger of God had chosen her for himself."

Recovering (booty) hidden gold treasures:

Prophet Muhammad accused Safiyyah's husband, Kinanah and his cousin of hiding some of their properties in contravention of the terms of surrender. He was especially angered that Kinanah had hidden the wealth (worth about ten thousad Dinars; i.e, US$ 500,000, approximately) that he received from his marriage to a B. Nadir girl (i.e. Safiyyah). A renegade Jew divulged the secret of Kinanah's hidden gold treasures. That Jew went and fetched the hidden treasures. Kinanah and his cousin were promptly arrested by the Muslims. Then Kinanah b. al-Rabi, Safiyyah's husband was brought to Muhammad. Muhammad charged him of hiding his wealth in some underground storage. When Kinanah denied this allegation, Muhammad ordered to inflict torture on him. He was tormented by branding his chest with a heated stake and then he was beheaded in Islamic style.

Sourcing Ibn Ishak, Tabari writes:
'Kinanah b. al-Rabi b. al-Huqyaq who had the treasure of B. Nadir was brought to the Messenger of God, who questioned him; but he denied knowing where it was. Then the messenger of God was brought a Jew who said to him, "I have seen Kinanah walk around this ruin every morning." The Messenger of God said to Kinanah: "What do you say? If we find it in your possession, I will kill you." "All right," he answered. The Messenger of God commanded that the ruin should be dug up, and some of the treasure was extracted from it. Then he asked him for the rest of it. Kinanah refused to surrender it; so the Messenger of God gave orders concerning him to al-Zubayr b. al-'Awwam, saying, "torture him until you root out what he has." Al-Zubayr kept twirling his firestick in his breast until Kinanah almost expired; then the Messenger of God gave him to Muhammad b. Maslamah, who beheaded him to avenge his brother Mahmud b. Maslamah."' Muir writes that then the heads of the two chiefs (Kinana and his cousin) were severed off. Because of the so-called treachery by the Jews for allegedly hiding their treasures, Muhammad now allowed the Muslim Jihadists to take possession of the women and children of the Jews of Khaybar

Allah’s Messenger occupied Jewish land:

Sahih Muslim writes:
Book 010, Number 3759:
Ibn Umar (Allah be pleased with them) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) handed over the land of Khaibar (on the condition) of the share of produce of fruits and harvest, and he also gave to his wives every year one hundred wasqs: eighty wasqs of dates and twenty wasqs of barley. When 'Umar became the caliph he distributed the (lands and trees) of Khaibar, and gave option to the wives of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) to earmark for themselves the land and water or stick to the wasqs (that they got) every year. They differed in this matter. Some of them opted for land and water, and some of them opted for wasqs every year. 'A'isha and Hafsa were among those who opted for land and water.

Enjoying special Booty (Gani-maater-maal):

After securing paragon beautiful Safiyaah daughter of Huyayy Prophet Muhammad has had sex with this young Safiyya in the tent, on their way back to Medina on the same night. Here is the precarious story: Merciful Prophet asked Bilal, the Negro crier of prayer to fetch Safiyyah to his (Muhammad's) camp. Bilal brought Safiyyah and her cousin straight across the battlefield strewn with dead and close by the corpses of Kinana and his cousin. The two cousin sisters of Safiyyah shrieked in terror when they witnessed the grotesque scene of the slain dead bodies of their dearest relatives that they had to cross over. They tremulously begged a stone-hearted Bilal for mercy but to no avail. When they were brought to Muhammad, he cursed the panic-stricken cousins as devilish and cast his mantle around Safiyyah indicating that she was to be his own. Muhammad consoled a frustrated Dhiya by giving him Safiyyah's cousin sisters. According to Ibn Sa'd Prophet Muhammad purchased Safiyyah from Dhiyah for seven camels (around US$ 2,450). On the same night (during the day her husband and all relatives were slaughtered) that Muhammad took possession of Safiyyah, he hastened to his tent to sleep with her. This was of course a holy character of Prophet of Islam!

Here is what Ibn Sa'd writes: "-.when it was night, he entered a tent and she entered with him. Abu Ayyub came there and passed the night by the tent with a sword keeping his head at the tent. When it was morning and the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him.” To hide the lascivious character of Muhammad, Muslim biographers often mention that he married Safiyyahh before he slept with her. But they forget to mention that Muhammad did not follow the rule of waiting period (three monthly periods) to sleep with Safiyyahh. He slept with her in the same day she was captured.

Above stories out of Sahi Hadiths clearly and undoubtedly have confirmed at least two things: (1) Prophet killed all those surrendered unarmed Jews in cold blood, (2) Prophet was attracted by Safiyya’s alluring beauty and he had sex with her (I really don’t care after marriage or before marriage) in a period when that poor Safiyya was in terrible grief by loosing her father, brother, husband and relatives and before the bloods of her relatives was even dry. By what yardstick can we measure the mercifulness and compassionateness of our Prophet? Could any Islamist tell me why Prophet of Islam had to set this terrible example?

Islamic intolerance:

Book 019, Number 4366:
It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.” [This single sahi hadiths tells everything about Islamic intolerance]

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 288
The Prophet on his death-bed, gave three orders one of them was to Expel the pagans from the Arabian Peninsula.

Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "

Conclusion:

This article has delved with the most sensitive historical incidents happened more than 1400 years ago. Naturally, for correct history, we must depend upon the related sources: Quran, Hadisths and Islamic history recorded by famous biographers. In this article I have used authentic information from the above sources most scrupulously. I have used verses from holy Quran, number of related hadiths as found in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim; and from the life of Prophet Muhammad recorded by Ibn Ishaq in his word Sirat Rasul Allah available in the abridged edition of Ibn Hisham, and translated by A. Guillaume under the title The Life of Muhammad. This is by far the oldest (written) account of Prophet Muhammad's life in regard to the date of its first composition.
I could not find any alternate or different/contradictory information about this extermination of Jews from Arabia. Scores of sahi hadiths continuously bragged (shamelessly) without any shred of remorse about how heroically (?) the most compassionate Prophet of Islam eliminated all scoundrel Jews from Medina.

For 1400 years all the above Quranic verses and sahi hadiths that I have used were respected and believed by every Muslim faithful believer without any question. No pious Muslims, respected Mullahs, Maoulanas and most famous Islamic scholars had ever questioned their authenticity or validity; nor did they have any doubt or disbelief on the authenticity of Islamic historical record produced by most famous and revered Islamic scholars like: Ibn Ishaq, Tabari, Buchari or Sunan Abu-Dawud in Islam; rather they readily believed them. In fact, these above Islamic scholars had been the oldest/original source of Islamic history on the basis of which tens of thousands of Islamic books have been compiled by various modern Islamic scholars around the world.

Now that some Islamic critics like me started to point out these utterly immoral and heinous acts of Prophet Muhammad, some western educated hypocritical Islamists started to disown or distort these sahi hadiths and shamelessly questioning the authenticity of well-accepted Islamic histories—only to do damage-control by their futile efforts. They forget that the very ridiculous techniques that they use to distort or to find fault with these sahi hadiths can also be used (by same formulas) to find fault with all the available thousands of hadiths—because, all hadiths were recorded about 200 years after Prophet’s demise. I wonder what they can do to those Quranic verses that I have used in this article. Surprisingly, they remain silent about Quranic verses. This is of course, a pure intellectual bankruptcy on their part.

If anyone is looking for a down-to-earth reason for Prophet Muhammad’s attack on all the affluent Jewish tribes such as Qurayza and Khaybar (instead of "Gabriel’s leadership"), then he does not need to look any further than verse- 33:27. After all, the Meccans and their allies withdrew (from seize of Medina at the battle of trench) without allowing Muslims to take their wealth. So how was Muhammad going to reward his 3,000 jihadists? He needed booty (wealth) to reward his jihadis. The prophet confiscated wealth of Jews to satisfy his greedy jihadis. He was following a bad custom of winner-take-all in seventh-century Arabia. It is a pity and shame that he could not rise above this, as the prophet for all of the world, the last and the best of all the prophets!

Literatures:

1. The Holy Qur’an, Translated by A. Yousuf Ali, Published by Amana Corporation, Brentwood, Maryland, 1983
2. Buchari Sharif, Bengali Translation by Maulana Muhammad Mustafizur Rahman, Sulemani Printers and Publishers, Dhaka, Second edition-1999
3. W. M. Watt, Muhammad: Prophet and Statesman, Oxford UP, 1961, pp. 130-31; 148-51; 166-67.
4. Ibn Ishaq, Sirat Rasul Allah (Life of Muhammad), trans. A. Guillaume, Oxford UP, 1955, pp. 363-64; 437-45.
5. Muhammad at Medina, Oxfored UP, 1956; Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur’an, vol. 3.
6. Tabari, The Foundation of the Community, trans. M.V. McDonald and annotated by W. M. Watt (SUNYP, 1987), pp. 85-87; 156-61.
7. Ibn Ishaq; Tabari, The Victory of Islam, trans. M. Fishbein, vol. 8, (1997), pp. 6-7.
8. The Root of Terrorism a la Islamic style; Chapter 13: Terror Fifty-two; by Abul Kasem

housewife,

Have you ever met a Jewish woman?????? I guess not.

This is what happens when you are blind in the inside. I am glad that you have shown your true colors here as this is the wish of every single mohammedans to have their arab masters protected by all means. See how much of a slave you have become!! It is sad to see ALL of you behaving senselessly towards the Jews. I have commented earlier but TDM still havent posted it as yet. It contains some facts that might cure your blindness.

As for your beloved profit and his invention, i just want you to do a little home work. Take time reading this. I hope you will finally wake up. As i reiterated in many many forums, I really think that 99.99% of mohammedans malays read the Koran in arabic without understanding its meaning or they simply enjoy pronouncing the arabic language out of spite. This is very very dangerous for the young minds especially.

Prophet of Terror and the Religion of Peace

I n my last article, I articulated the three main motivations of Mohammed's heinous actions. To reiterate, these reasons were:

1. His fanatic greed for all the wealth that had been created by the blood, sweat and toil of the Jews
2. His maniacal craving for power at any cost. The Jews were the biggest obstacle in his plan to subjugate all of Medinah, so they had to be removed, by any means possible
3. His fear of all other religions. Mohammed was a delusional Megalomaniac, meaning he believed that he was the Supreme Ruler of the world. Anything that threatened this sick fantasy of his, had to be exterminated. Since, the religion of the Jews rejected his pathetic claims to Divine rule, they were the targeted victims in Medinah, just as the Polytheistic Arabs had been his victims in Mecca.

As the frequency of his criminal raids and attacks on Jews, Christians and Pagan Arabs increased to a fever pitch, Mohammed's megalomania began evidencing itself more openly. He started implementing his systematic objectives of completely suppressing all opposition around Medinah and plundering as much wealth as he could get his hands on, in order to support his final thrust of attacking Mecca.

11) Massacre of Jewish Tribesmen
Date: February 628 A.D
Place: Outskirts of Medinah
Victims: Banu Sa'd Tribe, Thirty Jews from Khaybar

Mohammed was forcing all the tribes around Medinah to make alliances with him and consider him as the primary power in the area. Any tribe who refused to bow down to the Muslim's terrorist tactics, was immediately subjected to extreme torture and death. Banu Sa'd was a peaceful tribe which was allied with the Jewish Tribesmen of the prosperous oasis of Khaybar. Mohammed was pathological in his fear of opposition. Having murdered all the Jews in and around Medinah, who could pose a potential threat to his rabid bid for power, the Prophet of Islam now was turning his attention to the only possible threat in the area, Khaybar. The Jews of Khaybar had remained neutral when the Meccans had planned a counterattack on Medinah. This enraged Mohammed all the more and fuelled his savage desire to destroy them and tribes like the Banu Sa'd that was linked to them. He sent out a terrorist group of assassins led by Ali. The expedition massacred hundreds of innocent Banu Sa'd tribespeople. They raped all the women and children and stole 500 camels and 2000 goats and sheep. A unit of thirty murderous assassins were hand-picked by the Epitome of Mercy, to infiltrate the sorrounding areas of Khaybar as well. They disguised themselves as Emissaries of PEACE from Mohammed. The Jewish Leader, Usayr Ibn Razim agreed in the interest of peace to accompany them back to the Prophet. He set out with thirty of his men, following the Muslims. As soon as they were out of sight of Khaybar, the muslims fell upon the innocent and hapless Jews and chopped them into pieces. Upon returning Mohammed himself came out to greet his assassins. He embraced the leader of the expedition and exclaimed " It was Allah surely, who saved you from the company of the oppressive non-believers". The above example should amply demonstrate what a man of honour, the great Mohammed was. Indeed it can only be a truly pious person who would trick people with an offer of peace and cold-bloodedly MURDER them. Mohammed's intense hatred for the thorns in his flesh, namely the Jews, began manifesting itself in the spate of vitriolic Revelations, that he conjured up to justify his atrocities on the Jews.

Koran 5:64

"The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up". Be their hands tied up and be they ACCURSED for the blasphemy that they utter. Nay, Both his hands (Allah's) are widely outstretched: He giveth and Spendeth as he Pleaseth. But the revelation that cometh to Thee (Mohammed) from Allah increaseth in most of them their obstinate rebellion and blasphemy. Amongst them we have placed ENMITY and HATRED till the day of Judgement. Every time they kindle the fire of War, Allah doth extinguish it; But they ever strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not people who do mischief."

The bit about Jews saying "Allah's hand is tied up" is referring to their protest at the fact that Mohammed and the Muslims had taken control of all the wealth. The Jews who had initially helped the Muslims, when they had nothing, now had every morsel of food snatched from them. The sarcastic comment therefore referred to the fact that it seemed like Allah's hands were tied when it came to providing even a meagre sustenance for the starving, oppressed Jews, at the mercy of the pious band of criminals of Allah. But even more pathetic is Mohammed's claim that the reason the Jews were acting so damned rebellious and obstinately opposing the Muslims, was that they were JEALOUS that Allah had hand-picked Mohammed to get his murderous revelations. This is laughably incredulous and mortifying considering the fact that Mohammed pieced together so many of his Koranic revelations, by distoring and twisting parts of the Jewish and Christian scriptures. Even more repugnant is the fact that a Prophet claiming to be the Messenger of a supposedly all beneficient and Merciful God, wishes nothing but ENMITY, HATRED, EVIL and CURSES on the Jews. Do such emotions sound like the wishes of a religious figure that preaches PEACE??? The Prophet of Islam was nothing but a wellspring of malice, hatred and blind poisonous jealousy.

12) Murder of Bedouins in and Meccans on the road to Syria
Date: January- February 628 A.D.
Place: Dumat-Al-Jandal, a trading center enroute to Syria, The Well of Qarda atNejed
Victims: Bedouin women, Meccan Caravan

Zayd Ibn Haritha, the adopted son of the Prophet who divorced his wife, so that his Good Old Dad could have the pleasure, was sent to attack traders in Syria. The Bedouins who were also trading at the outpost, got wind of the Muslims nefarious plans, took up arms and drove away the would-be raiders. Zayd was furious that his plans had been foiled so successfully. He targeted an elderly woman of the same Bedouin Tribe, because she exerted considerable influence and wealth. On a dark moonless night, the aged 90 year old woman was grabbed ruthlessly from her tent. She was tied up and trussed like a chicken and brought back to the Muslim camp. Upon arrival she was gang raped and molested by the pious followers of Allah. She was whipped and beaten to an almost lifeless pulp. The sadistic impulses of the Muslims however did not end there, the night's entertainment was not done yet. The eerie desert night, suddenly resounded with the cheers and throaty cries of bloodlust as the Bedouin matron's arms and legs were tied to four camels. Zayd and three others of Mohammed's select group, then climbed onto each camel and drove each one into opposite directions. As the wrinkled body was ripped apart in a blur of torn and bloodied flesh, cries of delight echoed all around. Such were the entertainment activities of the Peace loving followers of Allah.

Soon after at the Well of Qarda in Nejed, Zayd along with 170 men attacked a hapless trade caravan of Meccans who were returning from Syria. They massacred most of the traders and took two of the men prisoner. But most important of all, the Muslims grabbed a sizeable booty from this cold blooded massacre. They plundered more than a hundred thousand dirhems from this raid. It is no wonder then, that Zayd Ibn Haritha was an "Exalted Martyr". According to Mohammed himself "And Zayd, the Freedman of Muhammad, counted his freedom as naught compared with the service of Muhammad and Islam."

All of these activities, were of course, motivated by the divine words of Wisdom, spoken by the Messenger of Allah.

Koran 5:33

"The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land Is: Execution, or Crucifixion, or the Cutting and Removing Off of hands and feet from OPPOSITE sides, or exile from the land: That is their disgrace in this world and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter."

The gruesome spectacle of the Bedouin woman being torn apart, now makes sense. The act was DIRECTLY sanctioned by Allah himself in this Revelation. The plunder and and massacre of the Meccans too, were completely pious Islamic acts as the following verse evidences:

Koran 5:33

" And many gains will they (Pious Muslims) acquire besides, and Allah is Exalted in Power, full of Wisdom. Allah has promised you many gains that ye shall Acquire and he has given you these beforehand; and he has restrained the hands of Men from you; so that it may be a sign for the Believers and that he may guide you to a Straight Path. And other gains there are, which are not within your power now, but which Allah has compassed for you and Allah has Power over all things."

Allah is giving his kind blessings to the merciful and pure Muslims, to go out and PLUNDER and acquire as many "Gains" as their hearts desire. But Allah's bribes are far more quantitative, he is generous to a fault and will not stop there. Allah is giving his beloved Muslims assurance, that there will be Far more Wealth to plunder in the future. Not only that, Allah will "restrain the hands" of Men from harming the Muslims, so that they can keep on raping, pillaging and murdering throughout the land. Allah surely knows how to give Muslims a good deal in exchange for all the blood that they will shed for him and the messenger of Peace.

13) Slaughter of all Jews in Khaybar
Date: September 628 A.D
Place: Khaybar and surrounding areas
Victims: Over 500 Jews of Khaybar

Khaybar was the wealthiest Oasis in the Hejaz. The settlement of neutral Jews who inhabited the Oasis were known for their business acumen. Over the years, they had by their own efforts, sweat and toil converted the small Oasis into a flourishing Trade Center of agricultural goods. They were renowned for their extreme generosity, good naturedness and peacability. In other words, the small jewel of a town was like the juiciest piece of meat, which a Vulture like Mohammed could never resist. Mohammed could no longer control his slavering desire to attack Khaybar. His immense greed for the fabulous wealth of the Oasis had overwhelmed him. He had been systematically eradicatiing all the potential tribes that could support Khaybar. Allies of the Khaybar Jews, like the Bedouin Tribe of Ghatafan and the Jewish Tribe of Banu S'ad had been cold bloodedly eliminated and exhorted so that Khaybar would be without friends. The Prophet set out with 1600 men and laid siege to the Oasis. Although greatly outnumbered, the brave Jews fought bravely and staved off the bloodthirsty Mob of Muslims, for over 14 days. In the end the sheer disadvantage of numbers and the starving state of their children forced the Jews to surrender. They emerged with all their, weapons, foodstuffs and wealth, pleading only for the lives of themselves and their families. Instead the Exalted Messenger of Peace, instructed his army to do exactly as they pleased. The frenzied Muslims pounced upon the helpless Jews and murdered every man they could lay their hands on. Women and children were raped brutally and repeatedly . The Prophet led the way as usual. His eye had fallen upon the most beautiful captive in Khaybar, a Jewess called Safia Bint Huyay. As she stood there traumatised and anguished at having just witnessed her father and fiancee being hacked to pieces, the Prophet threw his cloak on her to claim as his booty. Minutes later he savagely consummated his "marriage" to her in a sand dune with the blood and gore of Jihad still covering him, even Saifya's father's blood, no doubt. There was no time for a sponsor, dowry, sending out invitations, or a wedding feast, in fact, Muhammed forgot his own law of waiting until her next monthly period had passed. Today we call that rape, but according to the Prophet of Allah, he was just securing her with the bonds of "holy Matrimony". Indeed the Prophet had committed himself to saving widows in need by marrying them! The remaining women and children who were rounded up were traded in the slave market or retained to be brought up as brainwashed sex slaves, professing Islam.

Allah's Divine Injunctions had naturally preceded the carnage at Khaybar. As usual the Merciful Allah condoned the slaughter, plunder and rapine committed by Mohammed and his band. :

Koran 33:26

"And those of the People of the Book (Jews) who Aided Them (Meccans) - Allah did take them from their strongholds and cast terror into their hearts, so that Some Ye Slew and Some Ye made Prisoners. And he made you heirs of their Lands, their Houses, and their Goods. And of a Land, which Ye had not frequented before (Khaybar) and Allah has Power over all things."

Koran 2:222

"They ask Thee concerning Women's courses. Say to them: "They are a Hurt and a Pollution: So keep away from women in their courses (menstrual periods) and do not approach them until they are clean. But when they are purified, Ye may approach them in any manner, time or place. Ordained for you by Allah, for Allah loves those who turn to him constantly and he loves those who keep themselves Pure and Clean."

As mentioned above, Mohammed himself had received this "Revelation" that Muslims shouldn't be having sex with women whose monthly period had not passed.

Mohammed of course had outright violated the above rule himself, when he raped Safiya in a beautiful Islamic Wedding ceremony at Khaybar. The Prophet of Wisdom was in a fix. He had no justification for violation of a rule, that he himself had claimed was set by Allah. The only solution was of course, the timely production of some Revelation that would save his ass. Allah in his typical meek and patient manner, was only too happy to oblige. Out spewed two Verses, directly from the quivering Holy Messenger's mouth.

Koran 66:1-2

"O Prophet! Why holdest Thou to be forbidden That which Allah has made Lawful to Thee? Thou seekest to Please Thy consorts. But Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. Allah has already ORDAINED for you (Mohammed), the DISSOLUTION OF YOUR OATHS, in some cases and Allah is your Protector; and he is full of Knowledge and Wisdom."

Not to mention Allah exhibits an unhealthy pattern of complying with Mohammed's wishes and providing verses that bail him out each time.

With the Conquest of Khaybar, Mohammed was now in exactly the position he desired. He had subjugated all the Tribes around Medinah. He had massacred any significant opposition that may have threatened him, and he had plundered enough wealth to win him hosts of converts willing to kill anything for Booty. He was poised at the threshold of carrying out his heart's dearest desire; that of attacking and conquering Mecca. But, he would learn his lessons before the realisation of those dreams. In my next article, I will expound further on these lessons and events.

The Works "The Glorious Quran" by Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall, "The Meaning of the Glorious Quran" by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, "Mohammed" by Maxime Rodinson, and "Muhammad" by Martin Lings have been used to compose this article.

Up to now, it seems that Hanan would not answer to the points I had raised and neither the symphathiser of Hanan – i.e. Liew. Never mind. But now we get a lizard cum clown of a fella by the name of some ‘Cicak’ or something.

This is what we get from illiterates like this ‘BladeLizard’ who thinks he/she is so knowledgeable about the Jews. Little does this illiterate realise that nobody here had ever been slaves to the so-called ‘Arab Masters’ in this modern day & age – i.e. according to the lizard fella.

In fact, it is apparent that this Zionist-Ashkenazi slave cum shill seem to be all-out in defending the Jews without realizing that those Zionists are NOT really ‘Jews’. I repeat – The Zionists are NOT really Jews. How many times must I explain this, in this forum, huh?

Can this moron please tell anybody here in this forum, how those Zionists had ever contributed in any way towards the good of human kind all these past donkeys years, since the Nation State of Israel was established?

But I can tell you something though, those Zionists have really contributed something to this world. Yes, they have contributed towards perpetration of deception and war, all over the world by using and manipulating their ‘Yes-men’ and ‘vassal’ state – i.e. The good, olde’ US of America ..!

And ‘LazyLizard’, oops sorry ‘BladeLizard’ - please don’t come here and give your cock & bull story about how Assad of Syria did this or that! And besides, if Assad had really done as what you have uttered, then why don’t you inform The U.N. about it and tell them to listen to you and take action against those Syrians. I guess perhaps you are referring these link, huh:-

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread156515/pg1

or this:-

http://books.google.com.my/books?id=-2jCN5Ur6yUC&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=hama+tragedy&source=web&ots=eTapB2wpZI&sig=7Odg8JoQuavnDuW4gJ5o9XyJ72M&hl=en&ei=gkiUScbxCteitgfkzt2oCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=8&ct=result

You see even experts on this topic find it hard to study, research and explain what went on during that incident.

Anyway ‘BladeLizard’ cum ‘Cicak-Kubing’….,

And since you are so clever about this issue, then why don’t you cry out about how the Jewish Bolsheviks of Russia had used Lenin to exterminate tens of millions of their ‘fellow’ Russians. Also how Jewish interest groups had ‘removed’ (from behind the scene) and murdered The Czar of Russia and every trace of his decendants. That does even include the ‘hidden hands’ of International Zionism in getting the Zionists International Bankers (in the likes of Paul Warburg) to even finance Communism..! Does you realise all this…, ehh.. ‘Cicak-Kubing’?

And if you want to talk more about internal political strife, then why not talk about how Red China under Mao Tse Tung who had exterminated millions of his fellow Chinaman just because they had different political ideology.

Then again, even in Indonesia it was no different when President Sukarnoe was brought down by the ‘hidden’ hands (of again) by the Western Powers, when Gen. Suharto took over as President and Indonesia had become a bit ‘friendlier’ with The USA. Perhaps you would like to digest a link I had often pasted over the net about these ‘hidden powers’, as per below:-

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10615.htm

and also this popular interview (I will post again) the ‘good’ US of A, here:-

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8171.htm

And yes then you will say that – Ahaa..!! But Gen. Suharto was a Muslim!

Yes, but so are The Royal Saudi family of Saudi Arabia, President Hosni Mubarrak of Egypt, Gen. Musharaff of Pakistan, Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan, are all Muslims. These Muslims had long ago ‘kowtow’ to USA and some of them are almost literally ‘puppet slaves’ of The USA. Then again, The US Government had long been a ‘gangster cum delivery boy’ of Israel, especially since after President John F. Kennedy was assassinated in November, 1963. So when Israel ‘controls’ The USA, then subsequently The US Government can ‘force’ even some of the Muslim Nations to do Israel’s bidding, right?

And don’t forget that The US and The Zionist had almost got Malaysia ‘into their back-pocket’ in the 90’s, when their Asian ‘pet’ (Anwar Ibrahim), that they had groomed since the time of President Clinton and up till G.W. Bush, had almost become the Prime Minister of Malaysia.

Fortunately for Malaysians that did not take place. And for that, I really & truly salute our Dr. Mahathir (PM at the time), who saw the impending danger and took swift measures to curb the onslaught of Zionists Bankers’ attacks (currency speculation), as well as Anwar’s over-anxiousness to ‘seize’ and assume power as the PM of Malaysia, at the time. And who do you think had encouraged the ‘pet-boy’ from the ‘outside’ - one might add? In fact, I believe the ‘pet-boy’ is still getting ‘outside’ support, even today! And one must remember that Anwar says that he stills befriend those American-Zionists such as William Cohen & Paul Wolfowitz.

Thus, I pray & supplicate - Oh, Allah Almighty please forbid something like that to ever happen again to our beloved country, Malaysia.

You will notice that in the issue of the mass-murder & massacre of women, children & babies in the Gaza Strip quite recently, that even some of the leaders from the Arab & Muslim nations as above mentioned, had pulled out of the talks & discussions to help & resolve the Palestinian issue.

Can you not you see just how powerful & deceitful those Zionist-Ashkenazi ‘Jews’ are when pulling some strings in Washington DC, who subsequently ‘persuades’ some of the Arab Nations to back-off and take it easy against those Zionist murderers. Just imagine, thousands of their Muslim brothers had been murdered and massacred and yet some of those Arab leaders would simply say – We Don’t Wanna Talk About It …!! How sickening.

And do also remember, that the US Government will even allow their fellow Americans to be murdered and that the family members of the dead navy-men have gotten no retribution whatsoever from those Zionisti-Israelis – like the case of the attack of the Israel Air & Naval forces on the American Naval spy ship in 1967 (The USS Liberty – 34 died, hundreds injured ) during The 6-Day War. And yet no action is taken whatsoever against those Zionist-Israelis – even up to this day! No public hearing, no publicity – Nothing, zilch! So who is afraid of who? Can’t the whole world see this nonsense going on in our midst?

So you see ‘BladeLizard’, when Chinamen kills other Chinamen, the Arab Muslims kills one another, the Indonesians does the same to each other, then there will be some outcry for a while then it will soon be forgotten. Then, if the Malays slaughter some Chinamen here in Malaysia or vice-versa, then there is going to be public & international outcry. Like what had happened in Indonesia sometime in the late nineties.

Then again, if the Jews are killed by some other race or political ideology then they would then band together and make some huge propaganda and coin up new words like ‘The Holocaust’, and they make sure that the whole world never forget it and sympathise & support at them all out. How sneaky these buggers!

And one thing I have noticed in the past recorded history, is that I have never heard at all – i.e. a Jew to harm a fellow Jew! (other than Jesus Christ of course). It’s so amazing. They are so close-knitted and will help each other at any cost! And that is the ONLY credit I can give The Jews. Why, they are more united that even The Japanese in terms of unity amongst themselves. Period!

Perhaps Jews are like crocodiles. You see, lions fight other lions. Dogs fight dogs, and cats fight cats. But crocodiles do not fight other crocodiles. And crocodiles would attack and devour just about anything. But crocodiles would not attack another crocodile and devour them. Some Malays would say – ‘Buaya tak akan makan buaya punya!’ So a Jew would do no harm to another Jew, but they would surely ‘attack’ and ‘devour’ the gentiles or the goyim – the first opportunity they get. Perhaps, it is just their nature. God knows. No wonder many famous persons in history have labeled some of the Jewish Bankers as – ‘A Den of Vipers’. And vipers don’t bite and devour each other, you know!

Then again, as I have said before that even some of those real & true Jews do not realise that International-Zionism is controlled by the so-called Ashkenazi ‘Jews’. Little do the ‘real’ (Sephardic) Jews realise that these Zionist (Ashkenazi) ‘Jews’ are also going to overwhelm and obliterate the common Jews of this world.

The Jews are smart and cunning people but my guess is that the Ashkenazi-Zionists are even smarter. Just mark my words on this! Don’t be surprised to find a breed or species of ‘imitation crocodiles’ who have ‘blended’ with the common crocodiles for hundreds of years and will in the end, devour those common crocodiles.

Anyway ‘CicakBlade’, since you seem to know quite a bit about International Affairs then why don’t you tell The U.N. to appoint you as their Special Advisor on World Matters. That would be good wouldn’t it, a ‘Cicak-kubing’ running world matters.’

The bottom line is when Assad of Syria had killed tens of thousands of his own Muslim countrymen, what do the Zionist-Israeli care? They will keep quiet about it and perhaps even ‘encourage’ Assad to kill more. It makes the Zionists job even easier having other Muslims killing their fellow Muslims. Like the Zionists have pitted The Hamas against the Fatah movement in The Palestine. So, it’s not to the disadvantage of the Zionist of what Assad of Syria had done or purportedly had done.

It is only idiots like you ‘BladeLizard’ who tend bring up this matter with some ulterior motive, to show perhaps that even some Muslims are murderers and ruthless. No need to go further ‘BladeLizard’, I have done you a favour by portraying what Suharto had done, or even what Gen. Pervez Musharaf and Hamid Karzai had done to our ‘Islamic’ country. Not to mention what Saddam Hussein (initially groomed by the US) had done to Iraq. These are all Muslims – and hopefully for them (for their in sake in the hereafter) not by mere names!

And you fail to comprehend that the faith & teachings of Islam is simply PERFECT, but unfortunately the MUSLIMS are NOT….!! I repeat, Islam is perfect, unfortunately the Muslims are not..!! And by this remark, you and the rest of the world must learn to understand this. Period.

Because Muslims are human-beings and have strength and weakness of mere mortals. Where many Muslims are truly ‘faithful’ to the teachings of Islam while some others tend to be overcome by temptations, worldly desires, pleasure and their natural urges. This is where some Muslims believe in, but do not really ‘fear’ God Almighty, even though the path (belief system) that they have taken, forbids them to do evil deeds or to stray away from the true path to God Almighty!

It is like the parable of a drug-addict or junkie who had been brought up well and loved by his/her parents. Unfortunately those junkies had succumbed to his/her own urges or perhaps even from outside peer pressure. In this regard, the junkie did not really ‘fear’, respect or love his/her parents, and would only culminate in his/her own destruction as a drug-addict cum junkie. The parents are not to be blamed for they had given everything for their child. So, for those who have no sense of good judgment (which requires knowledge & discernment) shall ultimately make bad choices in their life, despite having had or been in a good environment and surrounding.

However, this cannot be said of the so-called Zionist ‘Jews’, whose people appear to be like the ‘perfect’ humans (in terms of worldly and material achievements), but most definitely their ideology are corrupted and their faith in God Almighty being devoid. Apparently, they have more faith in evil & satanic forces by doing harm to their fellow man. These are the qualities of tyrants who feel they are special, superior & supreme beings like past tyrants in the likes of the civilization of Ancient Egypt, Rome and Babylon.

And make no mistake that the modern-day Zionist-Israel is slowly but surely showing its true colours of those tyrannical ancient civilizations, as mentioned.

So ‘Lizard’, just let me know if you want to delve into more of this topic later on. I shall be happy to oblige. Meanwhile go stick your tongue out and catch some flies.

Cheerio…, till next time.

to tahir56

To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: "You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God’s chosen people and all the gentiles are “human animals” (animal souls in human bodies), killing of whom does not make your God unhappy with you."
1:where HANAN or his suporters claimed that? BTW not all who align to his line of thought are jews.
2: "Killing another human being means to you just like hunting a bird or shooting a rabbit, so you can kill without any sense of guilt."
2:who kill who here?
3: "You are the God’s chosen people yet you are not willing to die to be with your God, you are so afraid of death that you don’t want to burry your dead, (Ariel Sharon)."
3:isn't god theologically speaking everywhere? were you not against taking human life? isn't god forbids human sacrifice in Koran and the bible?
4: "You have brains like any other human being and of course you use them very well but in a satanic manner, you have so many Noble prize winners, let me tell you the secret how, even your “declared terrorists” can also win a Nobel Peace Prize."
4:misuse of the nobel prize it's a shame. I mostly agree. still when Menachem Begin recieved the price, the "irgun" was dismantled long time ago. and he gain it for giving a peace a chance. where arafat on the other hand gain it while still active and never meant to abandon the way of terror.
5: "1976, the hijacking of the Air France plane to Uganda, remember “Operation Thunderbolt” your than Defense Minister and current President Shimon Perez (a Nobel Peace Prize winner himself) is on record to say “ We offered Edi Amin to be given a Noble Peace Prize if he cooperated in securing the release of the hostages” (Al Jazira / Riz Khan show), proving the Noble committees approving the awards are controlled by the Jews."
5:al jazira is your source? LOL. how about providing a credible source?

6: 1946, King David hotel bombing in Jerusalem in which more than 90 people died “Irgun” was found to be responsible and its chief “Menachem Begin” was declared the “BRAIN” behind the terrorist attack and there was a ten thousand Pound bounty on his head. 1979 the same BRAIN received the Nobel Peace Prize. You see how brilliant “BRAINS” you have.
6:Menachem Begin earned it by making peace with Egypt. Arafat deceive people to believe he earned it.

tahir56

"Dear Tun! I have been reading every blog you post but this is the first time I am leaving a comment.

To HANAN and all his supporters at this debate I want to say the following.

1: You are taught at your synagouges that you are the God's chosen people and all the Gentiles"
you been in synagogue?

lalok n tidor

bizarre assertions you are making as there are ancient Torahs date to 7th centurty bce.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3062895,00.html
you're at fault.

ezra's second death?

there is no historical records to confirm Arabs are descendants of Ishmael furthermore to affirm Ishmael have existed.

you forgot Deuteronomy 18:15

pretending 18:18 indeed spoke to other than Israelites it would have be Esau's descendants. not of Ishmael. this only proves the inaccuracies of Muslim scholars
are in concern other religions. but they are human beings it is expected.
but koran who is alleged to be of divine. cannot be forgiven if caught given erroneousness details on other religions. for further elaboration:
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=641

To HANAN and all his/her supporters:
1: You claim to be as well being taught in your synagogues as the God’s chosen people and all the gentiles are “human animals” (animal souls in human bodies), killing of whom does not make your God unhappy with you.
2: Killing another human being means to you just like hunting a bird or shooting a rabbit, so you can kill without any sense of guilt.
3: You are the God’s chosen people yet you are not willing to die to be with your God, you are so afraid of death that you don’t want to burry your dead, (Ariel Sharon).
4: You have brains like any other human being and of course you use them very well but in a satanic manner, you have so many Noble prize winners, let me tell you the secret how, even your “declared terrorists” can also win a Nobel Peace Prize.
5: 1976, the hijacking of the Air France plane to Uganda, remember “Operation Thunderbolt” your than Defense Minister and current President Shimon Perez (a Nobel Peace Prize winner himself) is on record to say “ We offered Edi Amin to be given a Noble Peace Prize if he cooperated in securing the release of the hostages” (Al Jazira / Riz Khan show), proving the Noble committees approving the awards are controlled by the Jews.
6: 1946, King David hotel bombing in Jerusalem in which more than 90 people died “Irgun” was found to be responsible and its chief “Menachem Begin” was declared the “BRAIN” behind the terrorist attack and there was a ten thousand Pound bounty on his head. 1979 the same BRAIN received the Nobel Peace Prize. You see how brilliant “BRAINS” you have.

Assalamualaikum Tun,

Excuse me Tun,
To BladeLizard,

You are so much worst than Hanan! Even Hanan is polite to Tun when he came and still polite when he left. But you are so RUDE! Not civilised and cultured at all. You must had a hard life and so lonely,therefore so so desperate to catch Tun's attention.

Who are you anyway to mention the Qur'an, the Hadiths and by the way whom do you mean Arab Master....Prophet Muhammad (saw) is that it? He is the true and beloved Prophet of all mankind, to ALL Muslims, not only to the Malays, mind you.
May Allah forever FORBID you from ever mentioning again of His name, His Beloved Prophet and His divine Books to all His prophets.
Have we ever discredit your Books of religious belief (are you a believer?). No.. so why did you? Have some respect please.

Please be reminded that we do not hate the Jews but the Zionists Israelis who oppressed and pounded the weak and the defenceless with their military might mercilessly.
Alas, no use telling over and over again to someone with a heart of stone, like you!
Now who is barking at the wrong tree...you la beeengooong!
Go bark at the mountain instead!

Yea yea not all Malays understand orang putih, so you think the Chinese, Indians understand ka. Oi, ada yang cakap Melayu pun tak tau ni nak hina orang Melayu pula.

Tun, please give no further attention to arrogant and insolent people like him.
They have become so obdurate that whatever truths are laid to them none can soften or wither or mellow them.
You have answered to the calls of Rob and Hanan, so please no more Tun. They're so irritating and very intimidating and provocative. Ignore them please.
But may I wish them peace be unto them.

Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.

dear ygalg,

1st of all i would like to apologized for my words on the bible as a manmade book. it was a bit synical and provocative.

what i really meant was that bible was CORRUPTED by jews scholar after the cruxification of Yahuza (it was not Jesus). The Jew rabbi at that time manipulate the Romans and together they burnt and destroy all the original Bible. Some of them memorized it but corrupt it for unclear purposes. Either to deviate themselves or others. (WALLAHUALAM).

while the torah (taurat) suppoze 2 b the prime scripture for the Israelites before the becoming of Christ, however, after returning from babylon, no one among the Israelites memorized the Torah.

when the prophet Ezra (pbuh)Uzair to some..who before his death had memorized the torah.. ..., returned from his death 100 years later, He recites the Torah to some quarters of the children of Israel.

After his second death, no one else among the Israelites had memorized the Torah. Thenafter, the Torah is no longer the prime scripture for the Jews.

However, many of the Muslim scholar believed certain parts of the Bible does have its originality, for instance,

1. the Bible did mentioned about the last prophet from the land of Kedar nearby the deserts & mountains of Paran (Mecca today).

2. The bible also prophezied that :

-The Comforter will come after the departure of Jesus.
-When the Comforter comes, he will reprove the world of sin, truth and justice.
-He will guide the world into all truth.
-The book revealed to him will contain no human word. (Quran)
-He will foretell things to come.
-He will glorify Jesus and clear him of all charges.

3. Among else;

Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh).

4. Some of its historical fact : the story of exodus from Egypt have pure similarity with Quran.

My point is, if u scroll up to point no 2. The bible also prophecized that "the book revealed to the Comforter (i.e Muhammad pbuh)will contain no human word"...this refering to Quran....and with a special versed in Quran mention that God promise to protect the authenticity of the Quran and also mention that both the bible and taurat was corrupted by their own scholars.

Hence, u can make your own judgement & reseacrh.....its a free world. after the day of Resurrection only heaven n hell that separate us my brother. Only God knows where we stand in the days of Lifeafter.

Muslim have nothing aginst Christianity or Judaism.....we just glad if you choose the right path. and you can compare the Quran with the rest...i have nothing to gain or nothing to lose.

"Obey those who ask no wages of you (for themselves), and who are rightly guided." (36:21)

Dear Tun! I have been reading every blog you post but this is the first time I am leaving a comment.

To HANAN and all his supporters at this debate I want to say the following.

1: You are taught at your synagouges that you are the God's chosen people and all the Gentiles

Assalmualaikum wbt Tun,

The Jews can be so strong and powerful because they believe in themselves, they had gone through a lot of hardship.

Not to mention how they love their own kind, their people and country more than anything.

Compared to us?

We fought, we killed our own kins, for our own need.

We hates our own language, we look down own our own people, we have many beliefs and only that belief is considered 'truth'.

Why the Japanese can be so strong? why the Jews can be so great that even my pc chip is one of their creation?

Look at the Japanese, why they support Japanese products so much?

Simply because they love their people and have to survived various events.

My 2 cent.

P.s- Cyborg Malaya- Thanks!

History must not be too short...........

Let's read this.It's from Wikipedia.......
The Hama massacre (Arabic: مجزرة حماة‎) occurred on February 2, 1982, when the Syrian army bombarded the town of Hama in order to quell a revolt by the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood. An estimated 7,000 to 25,000 people were killed, including about 1,000 soldiers. [1] [2]
Background
Syria had been deeply involved in Lebanon's Civil War since 1976 and the beginning of the 1982 Lebanon War. Problems also arose from Turkey, which mobilized troops on its borders with Syria primarily to deal with Kurdish rebels and accused Syria of supporting and training the PKK rebels within Turkey. The Muslim Brotherhood took advantage of this situation to start defying Hafez al-Assad's dictatorship. It undertook guerrilla activities in multiple cities within the country targeting officers, government officials and infrastructure. The anti-regime violence included the killings of eighty-three young military cadets at an artillery school in Aleppo in June 1979, and three car bomb attacks in Damascus between August and November 1980 that killed several hundred people. In July 1980, membership in the Muslim Brotherhood was made a capital offense, with the ratification of Law No. 49. Throughout the early 1980s the Muslim Brotherhood staged a series of bomb attacks against the government and its officials, including a nearly successful attempt to assassinate president Hafez al-Assad on June 26, 1980, during an official state reception for the president of Mali. When a machine gun salvo missed him, al-Assad allegedly ran to kick a hand grenade aside, and his bodyguard (who survived and was later promoted to a much higher position) sacrificed himself to smother the explosion of another one. Surviving with only light injuries, al-Assad's revenge was swift and merciless: only hours later 2000 imprisoned Islamists were murdered in a massacre carried out by his brother Rifaat al-Assad and Mohamed Bakeer in Tadmor Prison (Palmera prison).
The Massacre
Calls for vengeance grew within the brotherhood, and bomb attacks increased in frequency. Events culminated with a general insurrection in the conservative Sunni town of Hama in February 1982. Islamists and other opposition activists proclaimed Hama a "liberated city" and urged Syria to rise up against the "infidel". Brotherhood fighters swept the city of Ba'thists, breaking into the homes of government employees and suspected supporters of the regime, killing about 50. The goal of the attack on Hama was to halt the rebellious activities of the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood. The assault began on February 2 with extensive shelling of the town of 350 000 inhabitants. Before the attack, the Syrian government called for the city's surrender and warned that anyone remaining in the city would be considered as a rebel. Robert Fisk in his book Pity the Nation described how civilians were fleeing Hama while tanks and troops were moving towards the city's outskirts to start the siege. He cites reports of mass death and shortages of food and water from fleeing civilians and from soldiers .[3]
According to Amnesty International, the Syrian military bombed the old streets of the city from the air to facilitate the introduction of military forces and tanks through the narrow streets, where homes were crushed by tanks during the first four days of fighting. They also claim that the Syrian military pumped poison gas into buildings where insurgents were said to be hiding.
The army was mobilized, and Hafez again sent Rifaat's special forces and Mukhabarat agents to the city. After encountering fierce resistance, Rifaat's forces ringed the city with artillery and shelled it for three weeks. Afterward, military and internal security personnel were dispatched to comb through the rubble for surviving Brothers and their sympathizers.[4] Then followed several weeks of torture and mass executions of suspected rebel sympathizers, killing many thousands, known as the Hama Massacre. Estimates of casualties vary from an estimated 7000 to 35,000 people killed, including about 1000 soldiers. [5] Journalist Robert Fisk, who was in Hama shortly after the massacre, estimated fatalities as high as 10,000.[6] The New York Times estimated the death toll as up to 20,000.[2] According to Thomas Friedman[7] Rifaat later boasted of killing 38,000 people. The Syrian Human Rights Committee estimates 30,000 to 40,000 were killed. Most of the old city was completely destroyed, including its palaces, mosques, ancient ruins and the famous Azzem Palace mansion. After the Hama uprising, the Islamist insurrection was broken, and the Brotherhood has since operated in exile. Government repression in Syria hardened considerably, as al-Assad had spent in Hama any goodwill he previously had left with the Sunni majority, and now was compelled to rely on pure force to stay in power.
After the Massacre
Western countries denounced the attack as a breach of human rights and a massacre. In an official speech, Al-Assad called on the world not to harbour those who fled Syria. His calls fell on deaf ears. Most members of the Brotherhood fled mainly to Jordan, the U.S, the United Kingdom and Germany. Large numbers of them settled in the latter two, which granted them political asylum.
Locally, within Syria, the attack was publicized in order to act as a deterrent. However, even the most conservative (but not radical) elements within Syria did not rise to the aid of the Brotherhood, nor strongly expressed sympathy, largely because of the Brotherhood's violent means and actions, compared to Al-Assad's initial patience in dealing with them, until the attempt on his life and Hama's uprising. Thomas Friedman points out that never again have Muslim extremists threatened the Syrian government.
Some argue that the event is considered as one of the few occasions after the end of World War II when an insurgency has been successfully dealt with by using military force.[8]
Hama, which had some small tourist attractions like open parks and water wheels, turned into a poor city. After the massacre many of Hama's inhabitants moved away, and in their place came people from nearby villages.

BladeLizard adalah contoh orang putih atau non malay yang anggap orang melayu bodoh....

Boleh jadi dia sendiri orang melayu yang tak mau akui melayu kerana dia anggap orang melayu itu bodoh....
Walhal dia la yang lebih bodoh.... dan nampak sangat bodoh dia....

Dia tak tahu jika dia bodoh kerana dia memang bodoh....

Dear DrPerfect.......

I would like to comment your statement.......

"…And just to refresh the memory of those who are intending to wipe the Jews and Israel of the map. What happened to

civilizations, nations and empires that have tried to destroy the Jewish people?"

"The Jewish people, the smallest of nations, but with a Father in the highest of place who is defending us – God!!!"

My interpretation of the above Hanan's statement is that those who try to destroy Jewish people, they are all will be gone,

as what had happened to Ancient Egypt,Philistines,Assyrian Empire,Babylonian Empire,Persian Empire,Greek Empire,Roman

Empire,Byzantine Empire,Crusaders,Spanish Empire,Nazi Germany,Soviet Union. Hanan listed Hamas as those of the empire or

civilization/nations that is in the process of being gone. Is Hamas is in the same league with with those empires. Does Hamas

possess power,political establishment, advanced civil society, technology and military might as with those great empires or

civilizations/nations? I think Hamas does not possess those.Hamas is a small resistant group with limited military capabilities. There

are many small groups such Hamas in this world,off course most of them has disappeared, or gone.It's not surprising at all

for this kind of groups to be gone.

One may wonder why great empires collapse, but not a band of pirates or a gang of thieves or a small group of freedom

fighters,may not one? So I think,in my humble opinion, it's the weaker one,be it Hamas or Palestinian people or anybody else

to remind the most powerful ones,those with power that... look at what happen to those empires,if they are gone, one day

you'll be gone too....It's Hamas that should refresh the memory of the Jews about the collapse of those empires. One day it

will end, nothing lasts forever. If the great Kingdom of Israel could be gone and a new different state of Israel (I dont

think it's a great empire just yet) could emerge, so could all of those collapsed empires. Who knows one day, one or two of

those demolished empires starts again? There are empires or civilization that did not intend to destroy the Jewish

people,they are also gone.

Hanan states that it's God that is defending the Jewish people, so if you try to destroy the Jews, God will destroy you, you

will be defeated, your civilization or empires will be ruined.Or perhaps,in onother word "punish you".That what happen to

those empires or civilizations....Hanan did not mention the word punish,but it implies something like that. I may be wrong.

Thank you, Peace for the world......................

Israel tetap akan HANCUR 1 hari nanti...Manusia merancang, Tuhan juga merancang...tetapi rancangan Tuhan adalah segala-galanya dan penentu kepada setiap rancangan-rancangan manusia...

This is what happens when Malays are not read in History. Jew this , Jews that... What would you know about the Jews??? Is it all the knowledge of Jews are from your Arab Masters and Koran and Hadiths??

Please wake up. Go meet a Jew someday. Then you will realize that your Arab Master is wrong.

Also, Read read read. Dont hate just because you are told to hate. There area many history books that tells about the Arab Jewish relations before 1947. And Mahatir is Wrong and Blind. He started this issue in the 1970's with his personal sympathy on the Sabra Shattila issue. Many of you would have forgotten abput this, but it was his mere political mileage trickery that he used to have the Malays surround him and praise him as his their leader.

Where was his voice at the same time when Assad brothers "MURDERED" 50,000 syrians in 2 days in the HAMA incident??? Mahatir, c'mon, answer me. Why didnt you make a war of words with hafeez assad back then?? More mohammedans were murdered there than was in Israel!!! Is it because a mohammedan has the right to do whatever he wants and other mohammedans can just take it lightly???

You are barking at the wrong tree. Here is some excerpts, and for the Melayu's yang tak tau inggeris, ask your children to translate the below( since Maths and since in English is really doing good for the nation and effective, one of the good things the current goverment have implemented!)

HAMA TRAGEDY

"In February 1982, the Syrian city of Hama became well-known worldwide as the place of the “Hama massacre”. After a large and long-planned uprising of Muslim rebels against Asad and the Ba’th party, mainly organised by the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, Syrian government forces crushed the rebellion with brutal force. An estimated number of 20.000 to 40.000 citizens were killed by Syrian army units under the control of General Ali Haydar, 15.000 missing persons have not been found until today. This incident evoked heavy condemnation of the so-called 'pro-Moscow military regime' of Asad in the German press. It was accused of “beeing one of the bloodiest regimes in the Middle East, shaken from fear of espionage and with pro-soviet declarations and refusal of any peace policy overbidding itself every day anew.” (Ranke, P.M., „Nur noch mit Gewalt“, Die Welt, 12.2.1982). The Asad regime was portrayed in West German newspapers in exactly the same way as in the writings of the Muslim Brotherhood, as a sectarian minority regime, and little distinction was made between the goals of the Brotherhood and the goals of the Syrian people in general. This paper analyses the reasons, supporters and consequences of the Hama massacre, focussing on the triangle between Asad, the Muslim Brotherhood and West Germany. I will analyse, why the Muslim Brotherhood in exile acted mainly from West Germany in its fight against Asad, and why West Germany supported or tolerated those actions. I will furthermore analyse the interests of different groups and countries, internal, regional and international, involved in the Hama incident – and elaborate why they were interested in a destabilisation of Syria. On a global level, I will consider the Hama incident in terms of cold war and the involvement of the Superpowers USA and USSR in the Middle East in the early 1980s."

and for bzz, truth is no insurance for anything.

:)

For an alternative view of this commentary, click below

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=908

Like I said before, the Muslim countries need to develop WMD - Weapons of Mass Destruction to protect ourselves. Why..I think Malaysia needs to develop these weapons too.

To…. DrPerfect,

It seems that you are quite presumptuous. You have referred to me as ‘Mr.’ Non Jibaok. How do you know that I am a Mister, huh? I could be Mrs. or even Ms. for all you know.

I can recall indicating before this, somewhere in this forum that I am ‘3M’ - i.e. a Muslim, Malay and Malaysian and in that order. But I cannot recall ever indicating that I am of the male gender. Of course, I am aware of which gender I am, how young or how old I am, but I know that you would not know this!

Thus, your presumptuous nature clearly indicates that you are pathetic in thinking and defective in judgment. In this forum, you will notice that I had never referred to the person Hanan or Liew by their gender of Mr., Mrs., Miss or even as him or her. Only once had I referred the person by the username of ‘balan’ by his gender, because normally the name ‘balan’ would normally be an Indian (Tamil) name of the male gender, unless of course this ‘balan’ fella says otherwise in this forum.

So, kindly take great care in your interpretations rather than being foolhardy and unintelligent in your words and does not justify your username as ‘DrPerfect’. Instead, perhaps the username ‘Imperfect -Illiterate’ should suit you better, huh? What say you?

And another thing, I cannot presume whether you are a Malay, Chinese, Indian, Singh or Kaur, Mat Salleh or even an Orang Asli. So care must be taken of whom one is addressing to. But who knows, you could probably be an Ashkenazi Jew cum Zionist by virtue you had defended that Hanan fella so adamantly, it seems. Is that not so, DrPerfect or is it - Imperfect-Illiterate?

Anyway, why are you defending this Hanan fella? You had accused me of ‘twisting away more garbage for recycling purpose perhaps?’ - as you have uttered. You had also said that – “Hanan was just listing out empires of earlier civilization to form comparison in the sense of timeline, other were vanquished but Israeli are still standing firm today and secondly representing them as powerful antagonist against who struggling to survive for centuries and again, as comparison.”

If that is the case then you have failed altogether to understand my previous comments regarding the Zionists-Jews. You have failed to understand the Zionist-Israeli state of today have nothing to do whatsoever with the Ancient Israelites (Bani Israil). You have also failed to understand between the difference between an Israelite and a Jew. And, you also fail to understand the difference simply between a common Jew an ‘Ashkenazi’ Jew.

In fact, an Ashkenazi Jew is NOT even a Jew! Do you understand this? An Ashkenazi Jew is actually a ‘ciplak’ (imitation) Jew. Similarly, an ‘Adidas’ sports-shoe and an imitation ‘Adidas’ sports-shoe both carry the same brand name, but one of them is surely not the original.

Ashkenazi Jews are actually ‘genuine-imitation’ of the common Jews. And Ashkenazi Jews make the bulk of the Zionism and who are actually in complete control of the Zionist state of what is Israel today. Therefore when you say that – ‘the listing by Hanan of empires of earlier civilizations in timeline sense and were all vanquished, but Israel is standing firm today’, is pure rubbish cum garbage. This simply means that you fail to understand what was Israel (Canaan) since more than 1,000 year ago and what is the Zionist state of Israel today - is like the parable between the original ‘Adidas’ sports-shoe and the ‘ciplak Adidas’ sports-shoe.

But I guess you prefer more of the ‘imitations’ than the original ones, huh? Maybe also you are also one of those cheapskate consumers and would rather pay for those ‘bukan olijine punya’ or ‘knock-off’ goods rather than the original ones. So most probably you are also a ‘Petaling Street’ regular, huh?

Anyway, be reminded that the ‘ciplak’ Ashkenazi Jew is NOT even a Jew and yet they dare to say that they are of the blood lineage of the Israelites. No shame & dignity whatsoever lah these dirty rats & rascals! They dare claim to be of The Semitic lineage and chant the propaganda of ‘anti-Semitism’ against those who questions about the ‘legitimacy’ of the present state of Zionist-Israel.

To simply put it, Ashkenazi ‘Jews’ are pure Zionists. Period. And, they have nothing to do whatsoever with the true ancient Israelites (the Bani Israel). Can’t you understand a simple thing like that? And DrPerfect, I dare you or anyone else to prove me wrong on that strong statement!

So what are you babbling about here regarding previous empires had perished but the Jews are still standing today, huh? From where else did you dig up this fabricated story (other than from Hanan’s comments) and dare to come here and throw at us such garbage. You are sure to be damned for putting into picture and shoving into our throats of such falsehood.

As an end note let us humour ourselves with a portion of an old comedy of the late 70’s & early 80’s (Mind Your Language), that depicts (somewhere in mid-portion) that most Christians (Protestants especially) believe that Jesus Christ was of the Jewish lineage, as per the link below:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgNNGKDia9M&feature=related

Therefore, such a stand would suggest that Jesus Christ (Yushua to some – or Isa Al-Masih to the Muslims) was sent by God Almighty to be the saviour for the Jewish people, who had gone astray from the true path. But what the Jews back then (i.e. The Pharisees particularly) had done to Jesus Christ is common knowledge to us now.

So DrPerfect (or is it I-I), let’s make this world a better place. Let us spread Humour and not Rumours instead! Because rumours is mere hearsay, idle-talk and unfounded information.

By saying that the Zionist (Ashkenazi) Jews of today are the descendants of the Israelites would be pure falsehood and the biggest LIE of the ages.

And make no mistake about this, that the whole world and future generations might have to pay a hefty price if this gross deceit is not uncovered and told to many.

The choice is up to you.

Cheerio & bye for now.

to lalok n tidor

where do you find Abraham practice Islam in the bible?

funny that Koran contain of these made-man stories thus koran is itself mane made book.

you want argue about it? you can find me at this forum link
http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/index.php

Mr. non Jibak

Hanan was just listing out empires of earlier civilization to form comparison in the sense of timeline, other were vanquished but Israeli are still standing firm today and secondly representing them as powerful antagonist against who struggling to survive for centuries and again, as comparison. Did Hanan mentioned something about punishment? It appears that you are twisting away more garbage for recycling purpose perhaps?

sorry for my misquoted of Ishak/isaac/israel....its suppoz to be Jacon/Yaakub/Israel...sorry Mr Joshua n readers.

Mr Joshua,

i like ur comments on the January 29, 2009 8:18 PM,

quite fascinating, however a bit manupulative because the history u wrote mainly trace back from the year 1990's.

Go to non-jeboak classes and you will learned more.

But still i want to comment on your item 6 line 4, your quote: "Meanwhile the Bible mentions Jerusalem over 800 times and the Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham".

It's a bit naive n arrogant of u to relate Prophet Abraham with your descendants or Judaism or Jewish. Prophet Abraham got notting to do with Jewish or whatever you are PREACHING nowadays. He's a good servant to the GOD of the universe. He never claim he's a Jewish or practice Judaism.

Your (Jewish) main problem is. I repeat, YOUR MAIN PROBLEM IS. You people are so proud of your Israelist descendants. and that is only Because of most of the PROPHEThood came from the descendants of Isaac/Ishak/Israel.

Heaven or HELL does not chose any descendant or certain ethnic group. ISLAM does not choose any races, ISLAM is 4 ALL....i dont like long comments.

So to make it short. Your limited knowledge of historical roots was due to your 100% trust with the manmade version of the book of BIBLE,TANAKH, TORAH, KETUVIM, TALMUD and GOD knows what and etc.

This is what happen if you keep your faith on a manmade scripture.

Dear Tun,

The state of Israel is with many factors, illegal. With these 101( few?) resolutions agianst the state, I don't wonder regarding her legitimacy.

Resolution 42: The Palestine Question (5 March 1948) Requests recommendations for the Palestine Commission
Resolution 43: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Recognizes "increasing violence and disorder in Palestine" and requests that representatives of "the Jewish Agency for Palestine and the Arab Higher Committee" arrange, with the Security Council, "a truce between the Arab and Jewish Communities of Palestine...Calls upon Arab and Jewish armed groups in Palestine to cease acts of violence immediately."
Resolution 44: The Palestine Question (1 Apr 1948) Requests convocation of special session of the General Assembly
Resolution 46: The Palestine Question (17 Apr 1948) As the United Kingdom is the Mandatory Power, "it is responsible for the maintenance of peace and order in Palestine." The Resolutions also "Calls upon all persons and organizations in Palestine" to stop importing "armed bands and fighting personnel...whatever their origin;...weapons and war materials;...Refrain, pending the future government of Palestine...from any political activity which might prejudice the rights, claims, or position of either community;...refrain from any action which will endager the safety of the Holy Places in Palestine."
Resolution 48: The Palestine Question (23 Apr 1948)
Resolution 49: The Palestine Question (22 May 1948)
Resolution 50: The Palestine Question (29 May 1948)
Resolution 53: The Palestine Question (7 Jul 1948)
Resolution 54: The Palestine Question (15 Jul 1948)
Resolution 56: The Palestine Question (19 Aug 1948)
Resolution 57: The Palestine Question (18 Sep 1948)
Resolution 59: The Palestine Question (19 Oct 1948)
Resolution 60: The Palestine Question (29 Oct 1948)
Resolution 61: The Palestine Question (4 Nov 1948)
Resolution 62: The Palestine Question (16 Nov 1948)
Resolution 66: The Palestine Question (29 Dec 1948)
Resolution 72: The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
Resolution 73: The Palestine Question (11 Aug 1949)
Resolution 89 (17 November 1950): regarding Armistice in 1948 Arab-Israeli War and "transfer of persons".
Resolution 92: The Palestine Question (8 May 1951)
Resolution 93: The Palestine Question (18 May 1951)
Resolution 95: The Palestine Question (1 Sep 1951)
Resolution 100: The Palestine Question (27 Oct 1953)
Resolution 101: The Palestine Question (24 Nov 1953)
Resolution 106: The Palestine Question (29 Mar 1955) 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid.
Resolution 107: The Palestine Question (30 Mar)
Resolution 108: The Palestine Question (8 Sep)
Resolution 111: " ... 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
Resolution 127: " ... 'recommends' Israel suspends its 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
Resolution 162: " ... 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
Resolution 171: " ... determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
Resolution 228: " ... 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
Resolution 237: " ... 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
Resolution 242 (November 22, 1967): Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area. Calls on Israel's neighbors to end the state of belligerency and calls upon Israel to reciprocate by withdraw its forces from land claimed by other parties in 1967 war. Interpreted commonly today as calling for the Land for peace principle as a way to resolve Arab-Israeli conflict
Resolution 248: " ... 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
Resolution 250: " ... 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
Resolution 251: " ... 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
Resolution 252: " ... 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
Resolution 256: " ... 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
Resolution 259: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
Resolution 262: " ... 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
Resolution 265: " ... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
Resolution 267: " ... 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
Resolution 270: " ... 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
Resolution 271: " ... 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
Resolution 279: " ... 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
Resolution 280: " ... 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
Resolution 285: " ... 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
Resolution 298: " ... 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
Resolution 313: " ... 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
Resolution 316: " ... 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
Resolution 317: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
Resolution 332: " ... 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
Resolution 337: " ... 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
Resolution 338 (22 October 1973): cease fire in Yom Kippur War
Resolution 339 (23 October 1973): Confirms Res. 338, dispatch UN observers.
Resolution 347: " ... 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
Resolution 425 (1978): " ... 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon". Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon was completed as of 16 June 2000.
Resolution 350 (31 May 1974) established the United Nations Disengagement Observer Force, to monitor the ceasefire between Israel and Syria in the wake of the Yom Kippur War.
Resolution 427: " ... 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon".
Resolution 444: " ... 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
Resolution 446 (1979): 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
Resolution 450: " ... 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
Resolution 452: " ... 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
Resolution 465: " ... 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
Resolution 467: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
Resolution 468: " ... 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
Resolution 469: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the council's order not to deport Palestinians".
Resolution 471: " ... 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
Resolution 476: " ... 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
Resolution 478 (20 August 1980): 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'.
Resolution 484: " ... 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported Palestinian mayors".
Resolution 487: " ... 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's nuclear facility".
Resolution 497 (17 December 1981) decides that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith.
Resolution 498: " ... 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
Resolution 501: " ... 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
Resolution 508:
Resolution 509: " ... 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
Resolution 515: " ... 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and allow food supplies to be brought in".
Resolution 517: " ... 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
Resolution 518: " ... 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
Resolution 520: " ... 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
Resolution 573: " ... 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia in attack on PLO headquarters.
Resolution 587 " ... 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
Resolution 592: " ... 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
Resolution 605: " ... 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices denying the human rights of Palestinians.
Resolution 607: " ... 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
Resolution 608: " ... 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
Resolution 636: " ... 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
Resolution 641: " ... 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 672: " ... 'condemns' Israel for "violence against Palestinians" at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
Resolution 673: " ... 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United Nations.
Resolution 681: " ... 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 694: " ... 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
Resolution 726: " ... 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians and calls for their immediate return.
Resolution 1559 (2 September 2004) called upon Lebanon to establish its sovereignty over all of its land and called upon Syria to end their military presence in Lebanon by withdrawing its forces and to cease intervening in internal Lebanese politics. The resolution also called on all Lebanese militias to disband.
Resolution 1583 (28 January 2005) calls on Lebanon to assert full control over its border with Israel. It also states that "the Council has recognized the Blue Line as valid for the purpose of confirming Israel's withdrawal pursuant to resolution 425.
Resolution 1648 (21 December 2005) renewed the mandate of United Nations Disengagement Observer Force until 30 June 2006.
Resolution 1701 (11 August 2006) called for the full cessation of hostilities between Israel and Hezbollah.
Resolution 1860 (9 January 2009) called for the full cessation of war between Israel and Hamas.

Is that too short for us all?, unless one is myopic.

Mr Liew,

Halow aaa Mr Liew, for your goodsake...y dont u read & study Judaism scripture: the tanakh, Christianity book of the gospel, the bible and the muslim's: Quran. Make your comparison and think. See what happen.

the-servant

To Liew,

Actually I am expecting our ‘star-of-the-show’ cum article-person – i.e. for Hanan to respond, but since you have commented instead then I guess it will have to suffice for the moment.

Anyway, please be informed that I am no politician and far from being a historian. Neither am I an academician but just an ordinary citizen with a strong passion for information & knowledge. I regard all subjects pertaining to information & knowledge as something that everyone should sought after and should be ‘greedy’ for. Because knowledge is going to be our ‘companion’ after we die and after leave this world of ‘matter’. And above all that, I now tend to seek for truth. Because only with truth can falsehood be overcome and peace be achieved.

Unfortunately most people these days have little regard for knowledge. Many would seek and hoard material wealth as though it is ‘an end all and be all’ to life. When one should actually be ‘greedy’ for knowledge, whence unfortunately in this world we can observe that some of even the ‘educated’ ones tend to be greedy for material wealth instead of having the ‘gluttony’ for knowledge. How very sad.

Some people would think that having a university degree, a Ph.D or a professional qualification, then they can regard themselves as already being a ‘knowledgeable’ person. And please do try to remember that knowledge and education are completely two different things.

So, I try to keep myself as ‘knowledgeable’ the best I can, especially pertaining to matters that affects my life and my surroundings. Other knowledge that I have acquired I do not mind sharing with others, as I am doing right now over current, local & international issues that may affect our lives as well as for the future generations.

And one must not be miserly with knowledge. Unlike money or material things when it is given to others then you will have less of it. But knowledge when given to others, yet you still do not lose your own. In fact, the more knowledge you give others, the more others are willing to share with you their own knowledge. So let’s share knowledge here. However, knowledge must be of real, substantiated facts and evidence and not mere opinions and perceptions. Personal opinions and perceptions are mere chatters.

Anyway, let it be known to you that it is not my intention to suggest or offer solutions to the Palestinian/Middle-East conflict. Who am I to offer solutions when even the whole of the United Nations organization have failed over and again to settle disputes and overcome the situation over there, since after the 2nd World War. Thus, I don’t offer solution but I take action as you will see in the following.

Let it also be known to you it is my intention to prove to you and everyone else that ALL of the problem that exist in the Palestine now is due to the handiwork of the International-Zionism and presence of the Zionist State of Israel. Period. If you dare to argue with this remark and prove otherwise than I welcome you to do so.

To overcome the Palestinian problem, it is now far, far too late to remove and displace the hoards of Jews who had come and migrated by the millions (from God knows where) into the Palestine, isn’t it? Neither is it practical to ask all the Arabs Nations & The International Community to displace all the Israeli-Jews out into the Meditereanean Sea, would it? And, the Palestinians are definitely not going to leave their rightful land and settle in some other nation, are they? So, what is there to do?

The Egyptians and The Arab Nations had tried to literally fight Israel in 1967 but The Arab Community had lost miserably in The 6-Day War. In fact, Egypt had lost the whole of The Sinai Peninsular to the Israelis prior to that war! But of course, it is common knowledge that Israel had won the conflict with the complete support of USA during that particular conflict. And of course the Americans will surely deny that they had a hand in the conflict in supporting the Zionist-Israelis, even despite some dreadful things that Zionist-Israel had done to the Americans during The 6-Day War.

This can be proven when the Israeli Air & Naval Forces had attacked an American Naval Spy ship i.e. The USS Liberty in 1967. The idea and deception of attack on USS Liberty was actually to put the blame on Egypt and to draw The USA into the war against the Arab Nations, under the pretext that supposedly that The Arab Forces had attacked The USS Liberty. Take a look at the links, as below:-

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3319663041501647311&hl=en

and also,

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ussliberty.html

At least 34 US Naval seamen was killed and hundred were severely injured in the attack by the American’s own allies – i.e. the Israeli Air & Naval Forces. The work to cover-up the incident took place immediately between The US and Zionist-Israel High Command. Only small mention of the incident had appeared in the American media & press and kept away from any headlines or breaking news. In such an incident one can clearly observe how The US Government was hiding the truth from the American public and the whole world. But instead they had even allowed their own Naval servicemen to perish as ‘collateral damage’, merely to save Zionist-Israel from uproar and charges from the American public. How sickening.

One must remember that the during same era of Lyndon B. Johnson as President of The US, the world had witnessed similar false-flag operations undertaken by The US in The Gulf of Tonkin Incident which had set the excuse and stage for getting The United States Military to be fully involved in The Vietnam War that had cost countless lives of the young American soldiers, plus the millions of innocent Vietnamese civilians who were massacred and bombed by the American Armed Forces.

Clearly the collusion between The US High Command and the Zionist-Israelis during The 6-Day War presents us with the unending situation & scenario of the Middle-East & Palestine problem till this day.

Like I have said over and again, the Palestinian problem cannot be resolve until The USA Government detaches itself from the clutches of the Zionist-Israel. But this cannot happen when The USA government is controlled by International Zionism’s ‘hidden’ power. That is the real problem that this whole world is facing since even before the First World War. Some of the rest of the world (especially 3rd World Nations) despise but fears the might of the Americans. However, The US Government instead fears International Zionism! It is as simple as that. Mind you, International Zionism is not present in the State of Israel alone but have their hidden tentacles over just about the whole world within their grasp.

So Liew, I am giving you the real situation & problem - i.e. International Zionism. What answers & solutions do you expect from me to solve the Palestinian problem other than telling you that all the root cause of the problem is - The Zionists!

Now let me ask you instead. How are you going to fight International-Zionism then? Or perhaps you believe that Zionist-Israel is not the root cause of the problem.

Then again, perhaps you think that The Hamas is the problem. But I have proven and provided evidence that Hamas was actually the ‘creation’ and was ‘used’ by Zionist-Israelis to undermine and neutralize Yasser Arafat’s Al-Fatah movement for an independent Palestine. Or is it that you think the Palestinian civilians are to blame for throwing rocks and stones at Israel’s security forces, thereby justifying in Israel’s retaliation in the massacre & murder of thousands of Palestinian women, children and babies in the Gaza Strip?

As far as I am concerned I know for a fact that International-Zionism is the real & root cause of the problem. And I am trying to solve the problem right here and now by exposing the true stories that they have been trying to conceal all these for donkey years now, from the public. I am trying to solve the problem by informing you and everyone else through this blogsite and to get people like you to wake up and smell the coffee!

Simply put, the problem is International Zionism who are using the state of Israel as a sovereign platform as well as The USA’s military might as tools in their agenda and objective in setting-up a New World Order. Period. And that is the highest political game anyone can ‘play’ in this whole wide world. Local and international politics are too small a game for these ‘Lord of The Beast' in this world.

So Liew, don’t get me wrong. The problem are not the Jews in general per se, but the Jews form the bulk of International-Zionism! As far as I am concerned I have nothing against the Jewish race per se, but I do know the world’s problems are due to International-Zionism which is made up of Jews. If Zionism is the problem then not necessarily the whole Jewish race is also the problem, even though it may seem so by many. So we must avoid in being racists but be clear what or where the real problem lies. Then we have to work at it to overcome these problem.

These links below can explain what I mean:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM7lbQiv8-o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqBJTBIUtM8&feature=related

So Liew, allow me to explain in another simple parable. From your previous comments, it is quite apparent that you do not like UMNO. Fair enough, you are entitled to your likes and dislikes, OK? But that does mean you dislike The Malays as a race in general, per se. Then again, UMNO members are almost all Malays and UMNO is completely synonymous to The Malays. However, one must realise that not all Malays are UMNO members, right? Many Malays are also members of Parti PAS, Keadilan, Gerakan and even there a few Malays in the DAP party. So, if you dislike UMNO you should not instead dislike The Malays, right?

And we cannot hate the Jews even though Jews make up the bulk of International-Zionism. This is where Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party failed in their thinking with their so-called ‘Final Solution’ action. During WW-2, the common Jews were sent to concentration but instead the Super-Wealthy Zionist Jews remained safe and secured. Perhaps this video can explain roughly what I mean:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8JgHGNE_Cc&feature=related

This should be the proper way of thinking rather being prejudicial, hateful, foolish & non-rational in thought and action. And bear in mind that knowledge and discernment is very crucial in having the proper frame of mind.

Therefore my solution for the Palestinian situation is by telling others, so that many shall hopefully can begin to understand & realise the true scenario of what The Zionists have done and are getting at. When many others tell so many others and so on, hopefully the Zionists’ skeleton in the closet shall be revealed to the whole world to see. Hopefully then, some great and massive world voice can be heard for justice be done towards these ‘beast’.

And we cannot expect the Western & Zionist controlled mainstream media and their ‘weapons of mass deception’ to voice out the hideous crimes committed by their Masters, can we? Only free-flow information via the internet can reach the ‘goyims’ and wake them up to see the true picture.

Failure to do this, then don’t expect the Palestinian issue to be solved and instead don’t be surprised that we shall see even more bloodshed being spilled in elsewhere over other areas of the world, when the Zionist World agenda shifts into higher gear.

Like I said before I am no Historian. And yet I believe I have done better than the most notable internationally acclaimed historians who have instead done society a great disservice by hiding the facts and truth about the existence of The Jewish-Khazar Empire who were the prelude of the existing Ashkenazi Jews that make the bulk of The Zionists. You go and ask any of those acclaimed historians whether nowadays they dare to deny this fact. With greater DNA technology and evidence, those present Ashkenazi-Zionists can no longer hide their lineage identity from their Khazar ancestors!

Apparent as they say – ‘History is written by the Victors’. The two previous World Wars were won by those countries ‘sponsored’ by International Zionism – thus most of recent history texts was dictated by them. In fact, the two recent World Wars were instigated by the International Bankers who are part & parcel of International-Zionism as suggested in the lecture of previous video link.

So can you Liew, prove me wrong on this issue? What I am writing and posting here is extremely ‘dangerous’ information about those ‘beasts’. And most probably the agents of those Zionists rascals are surely monitoring and reading this very popular blog of Tun Dr. Mahathir! Don’t you think they can easily track my internet protocol address when I post this comments in TDM’s blogsite?

Nonetheless, do you think I am scared of them? Do you think I am scared to die fighting them? But no, I will not fight them by throwing stones at Zionists policemen and security forces like those young brave but pitiful Palestinian boys. I will fight them with the intellect through my God-given brain. I will fight them by throwing facts and truth into the faces of cheeky smart-asses like you. I will fight with knowledge & information about them and shove it down the throat of people like you and see whether you can swallow the truth. If you can then you should be okay, if you cannot then you will vomit and collapse in your own mess.

So Liew, don’t accuse me of not providing solutions. I do not merely propose a solution. I take action in doing my part by solving the problem by revealing to you and others the bare facts about the dangers of International-Zionism. So now you tell me whether you have any other better suggestions. Do remember, talk is cheap but action speaks louder than words. And I have taken action, have you?

Lastly, don’t be silly by saying I that donate my property to the Palestinians and take some of them to stay in my house. You give respect I shall return you respect. You unnecessarily throw me garbage at me, then I will thrown shit at you. So get ready for some shit.

So Liew, we do not need some smart-ass cum Kiasu-like Malaysian Chinaman who dares only to punch-in rubbish and talk-cock on the computer key-pads. Kiasu Chinaman are normally to be found Singapore, who have diplomatic relations with those Zionist-Israelis.

If you are a Malaysian then kindly conform to Malaysia’s policy, view and standpoint, especially with regard towards our stand against the atrocities of the Zionist Regime in the Palestine. And this standpoint and resolution was passed unanimously (without even a single abstinence) by ALL members of our Parliament quite recently.

And by the tone of your remarks, it seems that you still support and sympathise with that Zionist Hanan fella…ehh!? And you call yourself a Malaysian?

So, again I say to you Liew……, Don’t try too hard to be a Jibaok.

Cheerio.

Tun...

1.What is your opinion regarding economy crisis and gaza crisis.
2.Did you think both of this crisis come from jewish propaganda?

What in my mind right now is Economy crisis that happened right now are absolutely Israel propaganda. They attack on America economy so that they have a valid reason to attack Gaza and American will give a green light for that. Here why...

1. When America economy down they need immediate source of income.
2. Selling a millitary weapon/bomb/missiles etc will give them immediate return since others industry has down.
3. Israel is one of the country that buy a weapon/armament from america in large scale.
4. If just buying without using it then it useless.
5. So that attacking Gaza is the answer.
6. American get profit from it, then nothing to care about Gaza.

Assalamualaikum Tun,

Hello people, what's wrong with history? History teaches us to trace back to the roots of existence or happenings. When, why, how, who ...these are the questions to be asked to find the answers and the truths. From these answers to the questions then we come to understand the root cause of the whens, the whys, the hows. and the whos. That is why history is very very important. It is essential to analyse historical events from reliable sources to understand the wisdom and lessons that will enrich our lives and and are applicable to us today.

Even if the event occurred yesterday then that's history too, isn't it. You want to know when you got that bump on your stupid head so you trace it back to when it happened, and that's history.

Whenever Muslims donate or do a good deed we don't arrogantly announced it to the whole world. Its the way of Islam.

Why should we have to be afraid of the powerful and afraid of the consequences if we display our displeasure at them. They are not god and we don't leave our brothers and sisters facing oppressions alone. Its the way of Islam. We feared nothing and no one except Allah.

So to By Liew and the likes of you, don't belittle those who want to open your heart and mind to see a bigger perspective in live through and by learning history.

When Prophet Muhammad (saw) sends Ali bin Abi Talib to Yemen to invite them to Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (saw) told Ali: "When you meet them do not fight them until you invite them to Islam. If they refuse, do not fight until they begin fighting you first. If they fight you, do not fight unless they kill one among you, then show them the one killed and ask them: 'Is there not a better way than killing?, for if Allah guides one person through you, it is better for you than what the sun has risen over or set over".
We learn from the advice of Prophet Muhammad (saw) to his deputies that Islam does not want war and tries to avoid bloodshed. Fighting is the last resort when all avenues have failed.

The event above was during the times of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw). His life history is called the Seerah and we learn from the character and example of Prophet Muhammad (saw) lessons that help us to understand and apply in our lives.

Tun, please take care and May Allah Look Upon You Always.

Dear Mr Non-Jebaok,

can i have ur email adress....i want to know about the ancient history of the famous kingdoms.

the-servant

dear mr liew,

actally haa....what u saying about a total masterplan to help the palestinian is silently being done by moslem all over the world....in many ways...a person like just dont understand...and very difficult to understand...so y dont u just keep quiet and read all the histories, because of historical routes make israel kills the palestinians la bro.

dear mr non jeboak,
what u wrote, is very comprehensive...i absaloutely admire it....require loads of reseach and time.....perhaps Hanan dont even bother..coz he's a jew, they use quran only for reference....and preparation for battle against the moslem...but they do not used Quran as their guidance for their lifeafter...so ye shall burnt in Hell for their sins.

Salamualiakum

Hi To all bloggers, left n right

My comment about alishaifool comment,

1. So, he does pledge loyalty, simply that he doesn't? You never found out...
-I expect "I love Jews " to say that he is loyal to Malaysia, but action speaks louder Are both of you twin?

2. That's very nice. Please continue to do so, and not only protect the Jews, but everyone. Clearly, at many places of the world, it is not the case now.
-Can you name the that many places?

3. But there are cases where Christians, e.g., needed to hide in a van to study the Bible, as if it's a van driven by an "ordinary" Palestinian. There is fear, in other words, to practise other faiths.
-In some western countries Muslims are not allowed to wear scarf,hijab to go to school or office. Legislative branches in some western countries even pass law that seem to discriminate religous practise (Islam). Fear, what do you think about muslims in West Bank

and Gaza, do they have no fear to practise Islam or even being muslims...with all what the Jews did.I can also say there are cases of inter-marriages between Muslims and Christians. So by citing such cases, can I say that there is no fear, the two are happy with each other?

Have you heard a fist-fight broke out between Armenian clergy and a Greek priest in Christianity's holiest shrine on Palm Sunday.The fight is part of a growing rivalry over religious rights at Jerusalem's Church of the Holy Sepulcher, built over the site where tradition says Jesus was buried and resurrected. This happens almost every year now! Chistian fight christian.......

It's the position of the state or authority that count the most. Ordinary people tend to act on their own sometimes.If a counrty
passes a law to discriminate against certain faith then it is worrisome.

4. Absolutely, civilized people don't murder. The point is, most of the people of Tun's faith think the other way round, that the Operation Cast Lead, e.g., is an act of murdering of civilians, while on the other hand, the firing of Kassam rockets onto kindergartens are not acts of murder. Why? I don't have to explain.
- Perhaps you could tell us how many women,children and elderly died in the 22 days or how many kindergartens demolished compare to houses,hospital,school,infrastructure burnt in Gaza. So that I could comdemn, may be most of us here could comdemn Hamas for that death of Children,women and the elderly of Israel!

Hamas does not have all the sophisticated weapon to accurately fire their rocket to Israeli military base, even the sophisticated weapon of Israel claimed more civilian lives of that women, children and the elderly.

You would like us to remember that when we mention Israel attack and kill 1300 palestinian, we also have to mention that 13 Israeli died. When hundreds of houses,school,factories etc destroyed in Gaza, we also have to mention that a house is destroyed in southern Israel. Yes we can, but you can see the numbers yourself.

As a general statement, I comdemn all the killing of women,children and the elderly. The question is why Hamas fire rocket to Israel? I think you know our answer.

5. Good for everyone, nice of you. I do, too, and Israel does, too, and so do a good portion of Palestinians. Israeli did look for the Hamas only; the bombings on the UN school, for instance, is now facing investigation--that it was actually Hamas's Kassam rockets that landed there. This is not the point I am concerned about, but the point is that, in [i]principle[\i], the Operation targeted Hamas and Hamas-related factions only.

Your condemnation, I reckon, also applies to those who operated Kassam rockets landing at kindergartens.
-Despite dropping thousand of leaflets,numerous phone call warning, I believe this is just to protect Israel (not civillian) hersefl from international comdemnation. They try to show that they are complying with the law. In fact, in my opinion, it is not. Looking at the scale and magnitude of their operation, their intention is to destroy and to kill (Hamas?).

Israel immediate response regarding the high human death, is most of them are terrorist. If we told 1000 civillian died, quickly the response would be 700 of them are Hamas members. If they fired UN building, quickly they would say , Hamas fired rocket from there. Without UN/World complaint, Israel won't bother to investigate.

Recently Isreal plans to introduce law to protect their army from prosecution. The have started to bar newspaper from pulblishing names of armies involve in that operation in Gaza . This is done when they realise that UN/international community intends to bring

war crime charges against what Isreal did in Gaza. So what is the point of having internal Israeli investigation?, their army cannot be found guilty.

Israel should be brought before world court. Investigation must be conducted by independent party. Israel goverment must corporate fully and must not fear, if they do not commit any crime all and act as a self-defence of their people.

Thank you. Peace to the world!

Selamat pagi Tun,

Please allow me as usual......

//By Liew on February 6, 2009 1:51 AM

To non jibaok

Hate and anger will not solve the problem and I think you are someone who does not like to solve problem but prefer to comment only. I am not joking when I wrote that the Palestine have nothing better to do then think about fighting. There are many types of people in the world that are suffering the same problem as the Palestine but they are not mentioned. Why ?

Please give solution and don’t talk so much about history as they don’t bring any answer to the problem. I don’t care who should or should not lead in Gaza, I want peace and no more war. So the answer is someone must “kow tow” to end the conflict. Being right or wrong or being first to settle in the area will not provide the solution. The answer is who is more powerful? The weaker side must back-down, this is nature’s way. Even animal understand that and we are practicing the same principle (who is in power) in Malaysia too with NEP, ISA. UMNOputra and etc.. I am not supporting the Jews or the Palestinians but the more powerful side will surely discriminate and abuse their power. It is same anywhere in the world including Malaysia. So if we want to be hero to the Palestine we might as well do in here in our own country. Does the Palestine care if the non-bumiputras have equal rights in Malaysia? What does the non-bumi do – “KOW TOW” and live with it and evolve to beat the system !!!

Understand now//

Mr Liew,

You are indeed a man of coward, no pride, no self-respect, selfish and lazy!!!! You are a disgrace Malaysian, what a shame!!! Continue your hypocritsy and "kow tow" (bow head or follow trend blindly) to the strong ones, Mr Coward!!!

God will punish you one day if you don't change your attidute (you will say that I am stupid and not educated and outdated, etc.) or should I put it in the modern term of this theory, the CAUSE & EFFECT THEORY so that you can accept it easily as you think that you are the modern type of educated person. Well, Mr Obama has began to understand this theory now, what about you????

Non Jibaok wanted bloggers to understand history so that we can learn and solve this conflict through non-skilled (or raw) blogging, the best and effective medium of today that enable people of the world (including Hanan) to debate online to undestand one another and advoid face to face confrontation because of different religion, nationality and race. However, you did not appreciate his kindness and got mix up with our current crisis. I should say that you are indeed a typical 'china man' with no vision and respect for the country and the world!!!!

The educated communist chinese are so much better than you. The conflict of Israel and Palestinine is shown in Hong Kong's and China's news broadcast because the government wants them to be alerted of what is going on in the middle east so that they are prepared to fight against this economic crisis.

In Malaysia, our TV news broadcast this conflict because of humanity and justice as it required by our Rukun Negara - Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan (To Believe In God). Now I am begining to see why the chinese in Malaysia have no vision because they have forgotten our Rukun Negara. DAP lost in Perak because they have changed our Kedaulatan Undang2 (All Laws Set Must Be Followed) to Kedaulatan Rakyat (Citizen Is Above Everything) and use rakyat (citizen) as the "arrow board" to go against Sultan Perak and our "Kesetiaan Kepada Raja dan Negara" (Be loyal to the King and Country). Should I conclude that you are a Malaysian "Terrorist" to go against our "Rukun Negara????

You have supported chedet for many months now, you have not learned instead you are becoming more and more racist. People who know nothing about history are the failures because they do not know how they started and where they stand. You travelled around the world, but you did not learn anything, what a waste!!!

//By Liew on February 7, 2009 1:14 PM

To non jibaok,

History! History!! You are surely a politician and historian and I admire your effort to dig-out so much info to argue with Hanan. But I think those info have no value or answer to solve the Israel/Palestine conflict. In your long reply to Hanan there is not a single solution but pure history, which cannot be proven as history sometime are fictions too and most time it is written or published according to the writer opinion. (like your current views) We know this for sure as The Malaysian Education System is doing the alteration in our Malaysian/British History. Even in these short years, history of British Colonial days in Malaysia can be change so what do you expect if history (stories) that are hundred or thousand of years old?

It is very hard for human not to take side in any conflict but us Malaysian have to stay focus and not to be seen as pro-Palestine and anti-Jews. If we are categorized as Pro-Palestine, we might be grouped under Pro-terrorist by the international communities then our economy will suffer. Ever wonder why our Ringgit suffer and not been fully truly valued? There are many people in the world that dislike what Israel is doing but they are not so vocal or seen to be Pro-Palestine because they know what is the consequences if you go against the powerful.

If you really so concern about the Palestinians, why not you donate half of your property and money to them or take 20 Palestine war victims into your house. I guess you will not do it as you are only a historian and a politician (talk only no action) But then if you do then you will be blessed with good health and wealth and maybe you will be awarded the Nobel Price for kindness to the Palestinians. I salute you for your history lesson.//

Mr Liew,

You are such a fool (macam Pak Lah, KJ, Tony Fernandez, Musa Hitam and Patrick Lim), ha...ha...ha....If you hate history, than you will be left out in the dark and will never know who attacked you by the end of the day. Did anyone in the world attack our currency RM just because you are afraid to be labelled as Pro-Palestine, then you are categorized under the "terrorist", can you prove that Mr Liew? If you can't, then you are indeed a shallow and blind minded man. You have failed our education system, not our education system fails you!

When I was in government secondary school, form 4 & 5, I never like Malaysia history because it's boring. I love to read China, India, Russia and Europe history because they are more dramatic，cruel and sad, I did not realize that boring in history means less chaos, less dramatic, cruel and sad misfortunes.

Thank God (my God in religion teaching, 100% made in Malaysia) for blessing our country a peaceful land to live. Today, I have learned to appreciate our history through my children because they will explain to me our history that they've learned in government school. By doing this, I am pratising the business "synergy effect" (or merging effect in 1998 crisis lead by Tun Mahathir)that 2 + 3 = 18. My children learned, my husband and I learned, the respect and love for the country are born and we will be able to ride through any crisis as we roll along with humanity and justice in heart (means Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan). You??? Boliau (useless) and Kiasu (unable to face failures) without vision and long term objectives to protect your country and next generation. How bad Hanan and Palestinians have sufferred you do not know, Mr Liew, because you have been living in this God Blessed land since you were born.

Go away, Mr Liew so is Mr Char Koay Tiew because you guys are downgrading Malaysia in the eyes of our Agong, Raja2 Melayu, Ex-PM, the rakyat, Hanan and the world!!!!

Good day Tun.

P/S: Dear Non Jibaok,

Don't feel angered and disgusted by Mr Liew, orang macam ini memang tak bawa otaknya ke sekolah, jadi dia hanya layak jadi pembangkang saja di negara kita kerana dia tidak faham apakah yang sedang berlaku di Malaysia dan dunia. He is another dah bodoh, haprak and H/P 6 who loves to pin-point others when problems arise, just forget about him!!!!

Dear Hanan,

Understand your routes before making any comments about the palestines

Assalamualaikum Tun,

Well it seems Mr Hanan has gone on a cooling off period but he promised he'll be back. But he's not leaving just like that, he left his firing squad behind to continue the shootings at the targets he has gathered here in Tun's blog.
We're not running away.

Tun, Mr Hanan kept saying that we're bombarding him with anger and emotion.
But I would like to ask him which he prefers to be with, to be amongst the brains with a heart of emotions and feelings, or to be amongst the brains but with no heart, no emotions and no feelings, like a wood or better still a monster.

I wonder how he expect us to react when a child was shot in the head by the Zionist Israel, men and women bombed while waving to their loved ones at the door steps, then bomb!..to just feel nothing at all and respond with blank faces, not even with a face of shock, to be like a robot, is that it?

He said he's not a monster (maybe he's not) but I'm afraid he could be one in the making along with the hundreds, thousands or millions like him, unless he sees the truth.
But only Allah knows who is ready to be guided and He will show them His way:
"It is not for you (Prophet) to guide them to the right path, but Allah guides whom He pleases." Al-Baqarah 2:272

But then Tun he's right too. Different of opinions will occur among us from time to time and to resolve these differences is by resorting to calm logic, not inflated tempers and emotions. When we hear the truth, we should accept it. It is the mercy of Allah that some believers will be guided by Him and will remain calm and collected when facing difficult situations. Prophet Muhammad (saw) gave the most valuable and succinct advice to a man when he said: "Do not get angry."
When we are angry, we lose control, make mistakes and rash decisions that we will surely regret later when we have become more rational.

Please allow me to state a passage on our Beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw)
(extract from a book on the Life of the Prophet Muhammad (saw).

Prophet Muhammad (saw) came to complete Allah's message to the worlds. He was Allah's last messenger and the one whom Allah gave His last divine revelation, the Qur'an. Prophet Muhammad (saw) said: "My example and the example of other prophets before me is like a man who built a house and built it well and made it beautiful except for one area in the corner. People came to look and admire the house, but wonder: 'If only this place was completed.' I am this piece that is missing and I am the last of the prophets." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)

As Muslims we believe in the message that Allah's prophets brought from their
Lord, and we accept all of Allah's prophets and believed that they delivered the message to the best of their ability. Allah's message to their prophets was to guide mankind and to inform them of their duty in serving Allah. There is no contradiction in the continuous divine message, rather the message of one prophet completes and compliments the message of those before him. In contrast, the Jews and the Christians only believe in their own prophets and do not believe in Muhammad (saw) as Allah's messenger.

The Isra'a and Mi'raj.
The journey from the Haram (the Sacred Mosque) in Mecca and Al Masjid Al-Aqsa (the farthest mosque in Al-Quds (Jerusalem) illustrates the bond between all religions. Al-Quds represents the religion of Abraham and his descendants; Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus. Mecca represents the religion of Ismail, the son of Abraham and his descendant, Muhammmad (saw). This journey also ties Palestine with the Muslim Umma (nation) and it illustrates the obligations of the Muslims to defend and protect Al Masjid Al-Aqsa as Allah blessed it. Muslims are to be the guardians and protectors of all religion, and their duty is to establish justice and safeguard the freedom and the liberty of everyone, Muslims and non-Muslim alike.
The journey also confirmed the change that Allah made in shifting the Prophethood from the lineage of Isaac to the lineage of Ismail as represented by Prophet Muhammad (saw). This change occurred because the Jews and the Christians did not fulfill their covenant with Allah. Allah chose Muhammad (saw), an illiterate Arab and He chose Arabia which had not been spoiled by the decadence of Rome and Persia as the site of His last divine revelation.

We, Muslims love our Prophet Muhammad very much but the Qur'an stresses the humane nature of Prophet Muhammad (saw) to ensure that he is not glorified to the point of being worshipped. But, as humans with brains and a heart, we do get emotional when he is humiliated by the unbelievers, even after his death.

Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.

Mr Hanan or Hainan Mee,

Let me tell you about the city of Palestinia or Canaan, Actually ha....the land that Zionist claim to be theirs belong to God la....

As Mr Non Jeboak stated....Moses guide you Children of Israel (COI) to Canaan (ie. Palestenia) from Egypt. Then after, with God blessing, Moses persuade the COI to enter the city of Canaan.

but, things has not been smooth as Moses thougt it would be....hmmm.....Then, Moses ask the COI to enter the Holy Land (i.e Canaan), HOWEVER by having slavery experience for many years (thx to Egypt's Kings).....

the COI reply saying that; the stregth and guile of the people of Canaan cannot be defeated , and the COI will only enter the city of Canaan only if the people of Canaan move away...

two of Moses most trusted men(Joshua and Caleb)advise the COI to enter the city via the front gate agressively, with the trust and believe of GOD and the victory will be theirs in hand.

but again the COI gave their view that; it is better that Moses himslef with GOD and both Joshua & Caleb to go to war for them while they sat and watch the outcome of it.

how tragic....now, the so called COI claims that Al Haram al Sharif Al Quds and the land of palestenia belong to them?.....the holy city only belong to GOD OF ALL CREATION

Dear Mr Hanan,

Please traceback your history laaaa.....Studied the truth about Islam and if interested my brother, convert to Islam...be a mu'min as Prophet Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob(i.e Israel) was....

the Prophet Muhammad, Jesus, Moses have no personal agenda other than being the servant & the messenger of GOD OF ALL CREATIONS.

Like myslef, i dont want your money, neither required any gifts from anyone if you convert to Islam. I got nothing to lose and nothing to gain. It is just for your good sake. We, the muslim were the ones who practice & continuig the teaching of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad not the Jews nor the Christians.

Dear Mr Hana n Non Jibaok,

Please continue your comments as it is very much intellectually amusing

the_servant

Dear Hanan and all interested readers.

I guess the ritual weeping, nodding of heads and swaying of the bodies by Hanan and his Jewish community could be traced back to the ancient Jews, paying homage to the Persian masters, who were grateful enough to allow the dispersed Jewish community to return to Cannan to rebuilt their homes, temples and cities.

Having seen how grateful the then victorious Persians were towards the displaced Jews, I'm beginning to ponder why Mahmud Ahmad Nejad could not offer the same to Hanan and his Jewish community, who have neatly assembled in the Jewish state of Israel.

Or it could be the other way round. The ancestors of Ahmad Nejad had devised a secret seeding plan in wooing the dispersed Jews back to the so-called Jewish homeland.

Adolf Hitler finally committed suicide, when he realised that he had failed to exterminate all the Jews, many more were hiding in different parts of the continents of Europe, Asia and America.

However, the Persian could be smarter than the Nazis. Assemble all the ultra Jews in one place and Ahmed Nejab shall send his neclear war heads to wipe out these deceit race from this world.

Dear Hanan and all interested readers.

I guess the ritual weeping, nodding of heads and swaying of the bodies by Hanan and his Jewish community could be traced back to the ancient Jews, paying homage to the Persian masters, who were grateful enough to allow the dispersed Jewish community to return to Cannan to rebuilt their homes, temples and cities.

Having seen how grateful the then victorious Persians were towards the displaced Jews, I'm beginning to ponder why Mahmud Ahmad Nejad could not offer the same to Hanan and his Jewish community, who have neatly assembled in the Jewish state of Israel.

Or it could be the other way round. The ancestors of Ahmad Nejad had devised a secret seeding plan in wooing the dispersed Jews back to the so-called Jewish homeland.

Adolf Hitler finally committed suicide, when he realised that he had failed to exterminate all the Jews, many more were hiding in different parts of the continents of Europe, Asia and America.

However, the Persian could be smarter than the Nazis. Assemble all the ultra Jews in one place and Ahmed Nejab shall send his neclear war heads to wipe out these deceit race from this world.

Dear Hanan and all interested readers.

I guess the ritual weeping, nodding of heads and swaying of the bodies by Hanan and his Jewish community could be traced to the ancient Jews, paying homage to the Persian masters, who were grateful enough to allow the dispersed Jewish community to return to Cannan to rebuilt their homes, temples and cities.

Having seen how grateful the victorius Persians were towards the displaced Jews, I'm beginning to ponder why

To non jibaok,

History! History!! You are surely a politician and historian and I admire your effort to dig-out so much info to argue with Hanan. But I think those info have no value or answer to solve the Israel/Palestine conflict. In your long reply to Hanan there is not a single solution but pure history, which cannot be proven as history sometime are fictions too and most time it is written or published according to the writer opinion. (like your current views) We know this for sure as The Malaysian Education System is doing the alteration in our Malaysian/British History. Even in these short years, history of British Colonial days in Malaysia can be change so what do you expect if history (stories) that are hundred or thousand of years old?

It is very hard for human not to take side in any conflict but us Malaysian have to stay focus and not to be seen as pro-Palestine and anti-Jews. If we are categorized as Pro-Palestine, we might be grouped under Pro-terrorist by the international communities then our economy will suffer. Ever wonder why our Ringgit suffer and not been fully truly valued? There are many people in the world that dislike what Israel is doing but they are not so vocal or seen to be Pro-Palestine because they know what is the consequences if you go against the powerful.

If you really so concern about the Palestinians, why not you donate half of your property and money to them or take 20 Palestine war victims into your house. I guess you will not do it as you are only a historian and a politician (talk only no action) But then if you do then you will be blessed with good health and wealth and maybe you will be awarded the Nobel Price for kindness to the Palestinians. I salute you for your history lesson.

Hanan,

U have obviously forgotten the good grace of Muslim rulers and citizens who gave your community protection and freedom to practice both your religion, trade and profession when you were persecuted and even evicted from the lands of tyrannical Christian countries. Perhaps, you should also study your scriptures and reflect on the Covenant. Is it quite possible that your community paid the price for breaking the covenant, not only Moses's teachings but even after? May I ask you to show me where in your books does it show that Palestine is gifted by God? Since when was God in the real estate business?

May I also ask you to read the scholarly works of your own community who compare life in the middle Ages, both under the Crescent and the Cross. Therein, you will find that your brethren were far better off under the Crescent (Under Crescent & Cross - Mark R. Cohen). You will find how Jewish scholars and thinkers thrived under Muslim rulers including holding the highest office.

Perhaps, you may also reflect on why Medina had so many Jewish tribes and why over the centuries many migrated there. Was it due to your own scholars indicating that the final Prophet would reside there? Go on, read your ancient books and learn!!!

Muslims take much joy that our Prophet appealed to the hearts and minds of everyone. We are happy that some of your finest scholars and learned men and women became Muslims as much as those from other faiths. As a mark of respect, I prefer not to refer my good brethren as Jews. There are too many ill conceived connotations to this word. I prefer to address you as the community of Prophet Moses.

Education without wisdom is much like water and acid. Learned people are not necessarily water but could be acid where wisdom is redundant.

Some years ago, I had the good fortune to meet a PhD graduate from Princeton who was an agnostic. It really does not matter. At the end of the day, if you have a headache, I do not need to take the tablet. During the conversation he opined that unless God is proven, as a scientist, it is difficult to fathom His existence. Of course, God in his infinite wisdom does not need to prove himself. After all, our prayers serve to do good for us not for God. God does not need our prayers. So, I asked him, ‘Do you believe in faith?”. He asked me to define faith. So, I said, “Could I give you an example of faith?” He replied, “Yes”. On that note, I said, “Your mother is the only person who can say who your father is. Either u take is as faith or refute it.” The conversation ended. What good is a PhD in particle physics? So, what good is an education or learning when there is no wisdom or moral fortitude sprinkled on it?

This reply is neither to challenge or debate. If at all, it opens your eyes to a wider view and brings you to have glad tidings for all that is good irrespective of religion, class, creed or origin, then I have spent good time. In the age of information, if we cannot learn from each other, empathise, respect and conceive good tidings, we have failed our forefathers and failed our next generation. As Albert Einstein said, “There is nothing new under the Sun”.

On a parting note. In a history of 4,500, the last 60-70 is only a blip in time. Israel is not set in stone. You are in your comfort zone because the Muslims are weak - not that you are strong. There will be a time, where your communitiy will regret your misdeeds and learn that to trust the community that persecuted you for 2,000 years and before (I mean the Romans and the Roman Catholic church is uniquely and extension of the Roman credo), only then will you realise that the very same community that let you be yourselves are the community which you trample their rights of existence.

to non jibaok:

From your comment I can see that you have some biblical knowledge and that you’re quite the educator. Almost sounds like you got this information firs hand.

You posted a very long post with no suggested solution (Killing all Jews maybe?). Instead of briefing us on Adolf Hitler & Europe, which I am sure you are a huge expert on, maybe you should spend time and think of how can you and all of us promote peace between those countries, peoples, and religions without making references to what happened 2000 years ago.

P.S. To be precise, the motto of the Mossad is “Where no counsel is, the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety" Proverbs XI/14.

See:
http://www.mossad.gov.il/Eng/AboutUs.aspx

But you already knew that…

Ya

Aslmualaikum wbt Tun and all fellow bloggers,

Apa khabar?

to Alishaifool,

1. yes, I am arrogant. I admit that.

2. I am arrogant because i see from the fact and historical perspective of arab-israel conflict is totally because of israeli fault. they took over palestinian land on 1948, and u want two 'neighbor' live happily ever after?

3. how come people called both country as neighbor? israel not belong to the middle east. even they themselves claimed that they are european, and why they still want to live in palestine even though they know that hamas and every palestinian will always hate them?

4. as a jew, they have political and economic power. they can buy any land in this world. but why they still want to live beside palestinian and willing to face rocket attacked from hamas and rise of intifadah everyday.Oh, I think they deserved that!

5. u took others' belonging and u want to be friend with them? is it possible? u tell me

6. i am arrogant and i believe that israel is not real.

7. the only solution is, israeli must get out from palestinian land and move to alaska, texas or madagascar or wherever state that willing to accept them and live happily ever after. (unfortunately, i don't think any of them will welcome israeli)

8. but, again it is not possible to do so. israeli will stay in palestine and will always be there because they believe that palestine is "promising land" promise by Yahweh and they want to establish a Great Israel..

9. i am arrogant, i'm sorry and again, israel is not real.

The Almighty says, "if the Believer comes to Me walking, I go to him running."

Daisuke Senzaki
UiTM Shah Alam, Malaysia
I am Malaysian Muslim and proud to be one.

Dearest Hanan,

Read carefully Non Jibaok reply February 6, 2009. Study it objectively. I'm afraid what Non Jibaok said is not available at Zionist censored book or literature. Please do not reply Non Jiabok emotionally, otherwise it will resulted in Jewish look more stupid and stubborn like stone. Jews are not Zionist and Zionist is not only Jewish. Your best friend is your own enemy because your enemy will tell the truth while they're reacting emotionally. Your Zionist will not tell the truth except their objective. Father of the Jews was Yaqob (Israel) and not Zionist.

Hanan…,

I must admit that for once I will have to ‘partly’ agree with you on the facts as you have posted. You have listed down and you have uttered previously, as below:-

- Quote -

“….What happened to civilizations, nations and empires that have tried to destroy the Jewish people?

Ancient Egypt – Gone
Philistines – Gone
Assyrian Empire – Gone
Babylonian Empire – Gone
Persian Empire – Gone
Greek Empire – Gone
Roman Empire – Gone
Byzantine Empire – Gone
Crusaders – Gone (Muslims defeat them. Was it the Jews controlling Muslims by proxy?)
Spanish Empire – Gone
Nazi Germany – Gone
Soviet Union – Gone
Hamas – In process (despite your support)

The Jewish people, the smallest of nations, but with a Father in the highest of place who is defending us – God!!! …..”

- End quote - (I am copying & pasting your quote as above, in verbatim!)

You are correct to say that those empires you listed above are gone. But you are completely incorrect by saying that they are gone because these empires had tried to destroy the Jewish people. And you talk garbage in that remark, Hanan.

The civilization and empires of the Mongols, the Mayans, the Aztecs, the Sumerians, the Phoenicians, etc., who had nothing to do with the Jews are also all gone. How come then? But then again, the Chinese, the Japanese & the Indian civilisation & culture which have been around for thousand of years now, and who also had nothing all to do with Jews, are still around today. How come, huh?

So where is your rationale & logic that empires & civilization are punished and disappear because they tried to destroy the Jewish people. This is a typical Jewish perverted ‘reasoning’ to manipulate others. Something like the story of ‘Shylock The Jew who wants Antonio’s pound of flesh’. In Malay they say you tend to – ‘membelet & putau alam’.

Anyway, another ‘mysterious’ civilization which had colluded and had everything to do with the Jews had also disappeared & gone – i.e. The Khazar Empire !!! Take a look at this mysterious empire that had never ever appeared in any school history textbooks, as below:-

http://www.khazaria.com/

and also a repeat from Benjamin Freedman’s speech here:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiAwRDhX82c&feature=related

So Hanan, how come God Almighty made the Empire of Khazaria which happens to be a fully ‘Jewish’ empire to completely disappear from the face of the earth. What happened to this empire? Did God Almighty cursed this Jewish empire or what?

This empire was for sure a Jewish (Ashkenazi) empire. And this empire was discovered and unfolded by the general public only after the advent of the Internet. Prior to that, some ‘hidden forces’ were trying very hard to hide this empire & civilization to be discovered for public view. How come eh, Hanan? What have to say to this!?

And Hanan, I cannot agree with you at all in your last statement when you have uttered that – “…… but with a Father in the highest who is defending us – God…” - as you have put it.

Well Hanan, on this statement I dare say that you are most definitely – WRONG!

Why so…? If you may ask. Let’s go through the history of some of those civilizations that have ‘Gone’ as you imply.

Firstly let’s talk about - Ancient Egypt. Yes, Ancient Egypt is gone. Gone are the glories of the high & mighty Pharaohs. What is left and can be seen nowadays are only the Pharaohs mummified bodies (in museums) and their tombs & structures of the Pyramids & Sphinx, in the Deserts of Egypt.

In any of the 3 religious scriptures of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, these 3 major teachings all agree about the story of Moses (Nabi Musa A.S.). All the 3 faiths agree in tandem and with consistency about the story of Moses. May it be Judaic, Christian or Islamic, all these 3 religious adherents agree that Moses (with the assistance of Aaron – Nabi Harun A.S.) was commanded by God Almighty with the special task of saving The Israelites (Bani Israil) from the cruelty & arrogance of the Pharaoh (Fir’aun) in Ancient Egypt.

Around 1200 B.C., the story about the Exodus, the parting & crossing of the Red Sea by Moses (by God’s Will) for the Israelites, the drowning Pharaoh in The Red Sea and so on, are all subscribed by the followers of the 3 faiths. Even the Hollywood version of The 10 Commandments (starring Charlton Heston) filmed more than 50 years ago, have not been much disputed by any of the 3 major adherents.

The collapse of Ancient Egypt was eminent after Moses had accomplished his task to free his people (The Israelites) from Pharaoh. A new dawning of age for the Israelites had arrived after The Exodus story.

After the crossing of the Red Sea, the various Houses (clans) of the Israelites made camp in the Sinai Peninsular whilst Moses had a new task for the Israelites and climbed Mt. Sinai, and had direct dialogue with God Almighty, so the story goes.

Leaving behind his brother Aaron to tend & overseer the Israelites, Moses returned from the mountain with the tablets only to find that some of the Israelites had gone astray in worshipping the Golden Calf effigy. It seems some of the Israelites were too quick to forget their Lord and had resorted to worshipping some powerless effigy which they had devised.

Moses task was to lead the Israelites out of Egypt to the land of Canaan. However, even Moses had to face the very difficult task of handling the attitude and behaviour of some of the Israelites into land of Canaan. Moses however died before the Israelites reached Canaan. His successor, Joshua (Yusha) continued the trek, and eventually The Israelites settled in Canaan.

Several warfares that lasted for almost two centuries brought the 12 tribes together under a single ruler or king. This king was Saul. Saul’s inability to defeat another group of people known as the Philistines quickly led to him being replaced by a new king.

This new king was David (Nabi Daud A.S.). David and his son Solomon (Nabi Sulaiman A.S.) ruled Israel for the next century. Under Solomon, Israel saw a period of great prosperity. After the death of King Solomon the Northern 10 tribes split from the southern 2 tribes, forming their own nation, which they called Israel. The Southern nation took the name of Judah.

The decline of Israelite civilization began when in 722 B.C. the Northern kingdom of Israel was conquered by the Assyrians. In 586 B.C. the Southern kingdom of Judah was conquered by the Chaldeans of Babylon. Many of the people of Judah were taken as captives into the land of Babylon. Others fled to Egypt.

So Hanan, kindly take note of an important issue that I wish to point out here. From my reckoning from this period onwards (500+ B.C.) is where we separate who are the Israelites from those who are the Jews. This is a very, very important point !!

In 539 B.C. the Chaldeans were conquered by the Persians. The Persians allowed the Israelites, who are NOW known as The JEWS to return to Canaan and rebuild their temple and cities.

However, many Jews chose not to return, instead remaining in Babylon. By now, they had settled down and lived among the Chaldeans. Other Jews chose to immigrate to other lands. As they did so, they retained their Jewish culture and bloodlines. Though they were outside of their homeland, they remained connected, as a part of the Jewish People.

So, the question is – why are they by then (500+ B.C.) were called The Jews and no longer were they - the Israelites (Bani Israel). It is from hereon that many of the Israelites had become Jews (Babylonian influence) by virtue that they had adopted & followed other scriptures (The Talmud) which they had ‘picked-up’ by the civilizations that had conquered them and displaced them. By then, the Torah (Kitab Taurat) was no longer their prime scripture of faith. Thus their faith had been ‘adulterated’, where priesthood & rabbis had ruled on ‘religious’ matters – thus a new ‘breed’ of people had emerged – i.e. The Jews !!!

Before I forget Hanan, please be reminded that what the Jews are performing in their ritual of weeping, nodding their heads and swaying their body at The Wailing Wall in Jerusalem these days, has nothing to do with the rituals of the earlier true Israelites spiritual teachings. I am sure that King David, Solomon and all other prophets & patriarch of the early Israelites did not perform this ritual. Check it out for yourself and see.

This practice performed by the Jews till today by weeping profusely & swaying vigorously was a form of their gratitude (to God knows who) of being allowed to return to Jerusalem (by the Persians), as well a feeling of great regret for being conquered by other civilizations and that they had long been displaced from their homeland. Do you realise this fact, Hanan? Do you weep, nod you head & sway your body at the Wailing Wall without truly knowing why you are doing so?

Anyway, despite The Jews that had by then been led spiritually far astray from God’s true path, nonetheless God Almighty had not forsaken them and gave the Jews a second chance ‘to come clean’ as they say, and that the Prophet Jesus (Yushua to some – and Nabi Isa Al-Masih to the Muslims) was sent to specifically to the Jews for them to return again to the true path.

But no, that did not happen. And we all know what had happened back then. We know how the Jews had treated or did to Jesus Christ. The Jews rejected Jesus and even persuaded their Roman ‘superiors’ cum conquerors to persecute Jesus Christ. How mean! We are all too familiar what had happened after. As a reminder I post again how some Jews today feel about Jesus Christ as below:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G6337yU

So Hanan, I dare say that ‘a Father in the highest of place – i.e. God Almighty’ is not at all defending you people the Jews.

On the contrary, it is that some damn satanic forces that is colluding, ‘shielding’ & using you Jews, right now. And we must remember that God Almighty allows the devil/satan a free hand & the ability to lead astray some of mankind who tend to forget God’s guidance and path - as many of the Jews had been after the fall of the Israelite civilization sometime in years of 500+ B.C.

And of course, the satanic/evil forces need human ‘associates’ & accomplices to do their bidding & evil deeds on this earth. Satan wants some of mankind as tools & accessories to fulfill their own disobedient end.

The attempt to kill & crucify Jesus was one great evil deed. To lead mankind into immoral and hedonistic habits is another. To be disobedient to God’s law for mankind is also another. To be spiritually devoid and be damn to the hell-fire would be the satanic/devil’s ultimate aim to lead mankind into.

And what is being done now by the Jewish cum Zionist-Israelis to those innocent women, children & babies in Gaza Strip nowadays, are exactly what the devil/satanic forces wants you to do as their instrument & tool for leading like those Zionist-Jews into the hellfire.

Yet Hanan, it seems you are so confident that God is defending you! My foot! Be reminded that Jews are a product of Ancient Babylon. The Talmud is a by-product of Ancient Babylon. And Babylon like most ancient civilization is a pagan & hedonistic society & civilization.

And as a Jew, no where can you equate yourself with the true Israelites from the time of Moses up to the time of the King Solomon. To plagiarize the name ‘Israel’ is only for the benefit of Zionist-Jews for ‘branding-name’ purposes, but this will only do great injustice to the good name of the true Israelites. How can a wolf use a sheep’s name and live amongst other livestock. Surely a number of livestock will be overwhelmed & devoured by the wolf. This had happened long ago and continuing now in the Middle-East. If left unchecked, pretty soon the whole meadow filled with other livestock shall be devoured by that wolf.

In short Hanan, the state of Israel should not use that very word – i.e. Israel. The Zionists-Jew present state name of Israel would only make the past and true Israelites to toss & turn in their graves. I’d say it would be more suitable that your country be called 'Khazajewland' or something like that! What say you?

The Zionist-Jews have plenty more dirty tricks up their sleeves to deceived and manipulate the rest of mankind. As the motto for the Zionist-Israeli Mossad suggest:-

“By Deception We Shall Do War”

So we will have to anticipate quite a number more of deceptions from the Zionist state of Israel in the coming years.

As we have seen how The Hamas forces of the Palestine was ‘created’ and ‘used’ by the Zionist to neutralize Yasser Arafat’s Al-Fatah movement for an independent Palestine. When the Hamas had become popular had won the Palestine general election, then Mahmoud Abbas of the Fatah was instead ‘used’ to re-neutralize the Hamas forces.

So one can see how hideous & deceitful The Zionist have been all these while.

Let’s see how for long the Zionists can sustain their modus-operandi in the coming future

And yet Hanan, you have the cheek and dare to say that:-

“ …. a Father in the highest of place (God) who is defending us…”

Again I tell you – My Foot…!!

Until next time…Cheerio.

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P.S. > Hanan…., Next time round I will brief you how Adolf Hitler & Europe had planned to ship all the Jews of Europe to the island of Madagascar. The plan was subsequently shelved for reason you shall know later.

Pity it did not take place, leaving now the Palestinian people and other neighbouring nations to suffer..!! Too bad.

Hello all,

It took me few hours but I read all the posts and comments made on Hanan’s opinion.

I was trying to educate myself better on the situation and see what both sides have to say.
I was disgusted to realize that the vast majority of all comments are non-constructive, non- intellectual, anti-Semitic insults. Only very few of you are open to real peace and better future. The rest just want to kill and support terror.

It is people like you that make terror organizations like Hamas look like “true” winners and fighters for the “justice”. By doing so, not only that you kill any hope for peace, but you also encourage the immoral act of using innocent civilians as human shield. By giving Hamas this kind of support and by justifying their actions you give them and other terrorists the ground to continue with this inhumane, brutal behaviour.

And for you “Peace” lovers I can say one thing:

After long negotiations and compromises from both sides, Israel should and will have peace with the Palestinians and all countries in the Middle East. Those negotiations, however, will never be done with terrorists, who’s only goal is to kill.

You want Peace? Prove it!

Ya

Hello.
You are all talking about who invented what and who used what, and tossing ugly comments such as the one above me: "Quote" : To Hanan & Alon The Butcher...

First off all, please stop calling each other names - It is childish and stupid...

In my opinion, the Jews have allways been persecuted etc because of one simple thing... they did not sit quietly and let other people, countries and religious groups empose their belifs.

What happened at the Gaza war with or without Uranium bullets or what ever, I realy have no idea what happend there because I did not participate in it, is not any of my or any other person or country's business.

If a country is continuasly bomb for 8 years, and the targets are cevilians then any means is appropriate in order to stop it.

Where were you when bombs fell all the time on Israeli setelments?
Did you condone those bombings?
Did you do anything to stop it?
Did you try to assist in the return of the kidnaped soldier Gilad Shalit?
Does it look reasonable that after all what Israel has done, returning so many prisoners, sending money to Gaza, suppling water and electricity and even an Internet connection to Gaza that the Hamas organization will not let Gilad Shalit to go free?
Does it look reasonable that we, the Israeli people, that has no other place to go to, another country to settle in need to ket go of the only thing we have while there are so many Arab nations that can take the Palestinians and help them to live a normal life in their won country?

Would you - lebaikudin - take a palestinian citizen and take him/her into your house in order to help him/her/them?

I guess not, because all you guys ever do is blame and blame and pitty yourselfs and make others fell like your people only suffer.

Do you think it is a coincidence that Arabs are allways shown and presented as terorists in movies?
It is because that the majority of the terorists are Arabs.
Please pay attantion that I DID NOT WRITE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE ARABS ARE TERORISTS!! they are not.
Some of my best friends at work are Arabs (Christian and Muslims).

I am not a religious man. I belive in myself and in the people who live near me.

Yes, I have to admit that many Israelis are dumb and are full of shit, but so are many people in every country, every city and every street, within every religion, skin color or gender in the world.

Try to take some of the things I wrote into considiration, I wish you would try to think in a different way, at least for a few minutes.

And to the Malezian goverment - do try to let people say what they wish - It will only make everything better for you and them.

Salam

Dear Dr. Mahathir,

Thank you very much for hosting my comments in your blog/s.
Despite we have a deep division of opinions and the gap to bridge is wide, I don't see you as my enemy. We have fewer issues we can agree upon than disagree. Even so, I have respect to you, at least for two reasons. Firstly, because of your age as you are older than me (even I’m not a youngster) and I must respect elder people whoever they are. Secondly, even you have a sharp tongue and straight to the point saying (that you think and your supporters are thinking), you are keeping your words meaningful and not humiliating personally.
People should respect their opponent even during a tough argument and this is something you are preserving even it is not complying with my vision.
I must say, it was a challenge for me to have the argument/s with you. I don't think we both were able to convince the other about who is right and who is wrong.
At least I had the opportunity to have my voice listened in Malaysia. Gave the Malaysians a unique opportunity to learn something about how I/we are looking on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I hope that some of the bloggers here internalized something from what I said. I'm also taking something from you Dr. Mahathir and from some very intelligent bloggers to think about.
I think this should be the lesson to all of us at the end of the day. This means what you are teaching your supporters to start using the brains instead of emotion and anger.
I can easily filter out all intentional humiliation of many bloggers here and have the mature ability of understanding its root cause.
We, both "opponents" must "exchange our hats" and try thinking instead the opponent - what would we expect the other side to do or react? Not with anger, just logically. I think we may find it an interesting exercise.
I have a lot more to say about other issues which are related to the conflict, but I think it is enough and too much for that big chain of comments.
It will be better for all of us to calm down and digest the meal properly.

Dear Dr. Mahathir,
It will be a great honor for me if you may find it valuable, find the time to write private e-mails and have correspondence with me. My Email: chalmh@yahoo.com.
I'm sure you'll discover that I'm not a beast or a monster as same as I don't think you are alike.

...And to all bloggers here,
You may find my e-mail address above an open door for correspondence. I’m not representing anyone but myself and my own opinions. I believe and will do my best to answer to every e-mail. I'll ignore insulting and humiliating messages and your e-mail address will be filtered out to the spam trash. Is anyone of you ready for that dialog?

I hope my contribution to that blog made it more interesting and popular (about 500 comments, really huge). It's time for me to say to all of you goodbye. The issue "HANAN" has been very well extracted. If there will be another interesting issue, I can promise you that I'll be back.

Dear Dr. Mahathir,
I wish you the best health with or without the Israeli products (of course I’ll be glad if you find our products beneficial and helping). May Allah bless you with long fruitful years!
May Allah bless you all bloggers with peace and prosperity.

Thanks and goodbye,
Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist.

To all of you that hate Jews and Zionist -
Martin Luther King was a civil rights activist in the US in early sixties.
He had a dream – that all the people living in the US will be treated equally and have the same chance to prosper.
His dream realized a few months ago when America selected its first African American president by the name of Husain Obama.
The Jews living in Israel also have a dream – to live side-by-side in peace with their Palestinian brothers.
They have been trying for 20 years to reach peace agreements and give back land that was taken in war.
Every time a step is made in the correct way the Hamas makes sure its halted.
The elected Hamas leadership also has a dream – that the entire land between Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt and Syria will be one big Fanatic religion Muslim state build on the destructed state of Israel and doing this by Jihad.
My personal dream is that the Palestinian people will be strong and elect a leadership that wants what is good for the Palestinian people and bring peace to this land.
Sharing the land is the only possible choice for both sides.
Good luck to us all and God bless.

To non jibaok

Hate and anger will not solve the problem and I think you are someone who does not like to solve problem but prefer to comment only. I am not joking when I wrote that the Palestine have nothing better to do then think about fighting. There are many types of people in the world that are suffering the same problem as the Palestine but they are not mentioned. Why ?

Please give solution and don’t talk so much about history as they don’t bring any answer to the problem. I don’t care who should or should not lead in Gaza, I want peace and no more war. So the answer is someone must “kow tow” to end the conflict. Being right or wrong or being first to settle in the area will not provide the solution. The answer is who is more powerful? The weaker side must back-down, this is nature’s way. Even animal understand that and we are practicing the same principle (who is in power) in Malaysia too with NEP, ISA. UMNOputra and etc.. I am not supporting the Jews or the Palestinians but the more powerful side will surely discriminate and abuse their power. It is same anywhere in the world including Malaysia. So if we want to be hero to the Palestine we might as well do in here in our own country. Does the Palestine care if the non-bumiputras have equal rights in Malaysia? What does the non-bumi do – “KOW TOW” and live with it and evolve to beat the system !!!

Understand now

salam to all,

to the last question:

Jews has been chased,expelled and kicked like a football all over places for thousands of years?

maybe because all other god worshipers are affraid of the jews?
or maybe just because we dont lecture to the rest on how to live it looks suspicies?

about the jews being the "best killers".. i think you forgot your history, jews and arabs lived together in peace until all arab nations decided to attack the jews(israel) and lost.. 3 times..
thats how the "palastines" were created.. refugees from the wars the arabs lost... but the arab nations left them behind to rot!
and trust me, the israeli arabs live far better than most arabs in arabs countries.. they can say and do whatever they want and enjoy the jews prosperety..

but the bottom line is, jews were in israel way befor the islam was even created.. so "land robbers" is'nt so exact...

about the gaza last war.. Israelis are never happy when innocent people die.. we feel bad.. but we will defend our selves.. On the other hand take for example 9.11 you could see all over the word Muslims were so happy about the thousands killed they started celebrating... and I don't see you all burn Russia flags after they attack in Chechnya or Georgia. Most people just let themselves hate the Jews because they are Jews and not because of what they do..

hope i got through...

Dear comentators,

I read your lines and I can not avoid the feeling of sorrow. how much hate can one have to another? people here are cheering the "brains without Heart" paradigm of his retired excellency. But if a heart serves only to nurish hate maybe brains would be better. I have many palestinian friends who would prefer to have Israel as their services provider, and to live in peace with Jews. Once my palestinian friend had an accident and I was the first one to help him. A couple of months later he was the first to help me when I was in trouble. Be careful of believing only what you see on TV or hear from extremists. The real life on the ground is very different. Israelis and palestinians lived well together befor, and will live well together in the future. The less mutual hate we will see the faster this day will come. less propaganda and more facts, less competitiopn and more respect, less individualism and more of a team. And hopefully when we will help Allah to help us we will see brighter days.
Peace on you all.

Dear friends,
Most of you know the history of the state of Israel but please tell me, who are the Palestinians - what is their history, flag, currency...
Israel rise up on top Palestine? is it?
Is any group of people can demand a land? Maybe the African-Americans in U.S. or Muslims in Europe. Anyway, countries that wanted peace with Israel got it!(aka Egypt, Jordan). Israel is not the problem.

Selam,

I agree with Dr. Mahathir.
My family and i also start our fight against zionist products.
I feel better when my wife, my daughter and i go in market to buy some foodstuff and check all of them (country of origin, i look on boycot list as well) and we tryng to avoid all gods which directly or indirectly give support to Israely regime.
I live in Sandzak region which is a part of the Serbia and in my region living mainly muslim population.
We very good know how looks like when your country fight against your just because you are other religion!

Here some links for BOYCOTT OF ISRAELY PRODUCTS:

http://tr-tr.facebook.com/group.php?gid=40443884613

http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.php#companies

http://www.inminds.com/boycott-brands.html

http://www.inminds.com/boycott-israel.php

http://boycottisraelnow.com/list.htm

senzakidaisuke, before you burst at other as to how arrogant other is, do you see yourself as an arrogant person? I do...

non jibaok,
1. so are you--in response to "you [Hanan] are so unrelenting and without remorse whatsoever with regard to the current topic at hand." You are unrelenting and without remorse in response to the, e.g., Kassam rockets firing at kindergartens and slaying of innocent aid workers.

2. "A very sly & sneaky attempt, I’d say & typically Jewish at that."
-Sly and sneaky attempt to justify your acts and even to solicit pity, typical of people of Tun's faith as well, if it's the case with the Jews. From my point of view.

cyborg.malaya,
1. "you seem not to love and pledge your loyalty to this country, willing to give everything to the Jews."
-So, he does pledge loyalty, simply that he doesn't? You never found out...

2. "Don't you know that Muslim were proctecting the Jews in Andalusia, while they were killed in Europe."
-That's very nice. Please continue to do so, and not only protect the Jews, but everyone. Clearly, at many places of the world, it is not the case now.

3. "I strongly believe the problem is because of land. The Palestinians are not all muslim."
-But there are cases where Christians, e.g., needed to hide in a van to study the Bible, as if it's a van driven by an "ordinary" Palestinian. There is fear, in other words, to practise other faiths.

4. "civilised people do not murder children,elderly and woman as you claim how civilised American is."
-Absolutely, civilized people don't murder. The point is, most of the people of Tun's faith think the other way round, that the Operation Cast Lead, e.g., is an act of murdering of civilians, while on the other hand, the firing of Kassam rockets onto kindergartens are not acts of murder. Why? I don't have to explain.

5. "I am for peace, I hope one day there will be two states living side by side. One is Israel and another is Palestine. I do want to visit the historical place. But I strongly comdemn the killing of children,babies,woman and elderly. If Hamas fired the rocket, go and look for Hamas not other people."
-Good for everyone, nice of you. I do, too, and Israel does, too, and so do a good portion of Palestinians. Israeli did look for the Hamas only; the bombings on the UN school, for instance, is now facing investigation--that it was actually Hamas's Kassam rockets that landed there. This is not the point I am concerned about, but the point is that, in [i]principle[\i], the Operation targeted Hamas and Hamas-related factions only. Your condemnation, I reckon, also applies to those who operated Kassam rockets landing at kindergartens.

lebaikudin, let me surmise and answer your only--yeah, only--question:
Question 1-"Why Jews has been chased,expelled and kicked like a football all over places for thousands of years?"
-Perhaps they are so smart, e.g. to win the Nobel Prize so often since the day the prize was awarded, that people get so envious of them... Or perhaps they are indeed special, being the "chosen" people, that they were envied by so many who wants to be king of the world... Or perhaps to certain people, from the very day they were taught to hate the Jews and deep in their heart "Jews" is synonymous with aggressor, killer, invader, etc...
Question 2-Is your God that mean or He knows some facts that you're trying to hide?
-I leave for others to answer.

cyborg.malaya, like you, peace be with all...

Shalom & salam.

Menyedihkan dan tidak dapat dipercayai! Saya baru membaca berita dari Yahoo tentang tindakan tentera Israel membunuh seorang pejuang militan Hamas yang berusia 21 tahun (baru 21 tahun!) Apa yang mengejutkan ialah majoriti pembaca lain yang komen tentang berita tersebut semuanya menyokong tindakan Israel dan mengutuk Islam! Tak percaya? Tuan-tuan dan puan-puan tengoklah sendiri! (link di bawah):

http://buzz.yahoo.com/article/1:y_news:bfb6255b26f0f31d80a03e7e9b882f8d

Salam Tun & fellow bloggers,

To Hanan & Alon The Butcher

You haven't answered my only question:

Why Jews has been chased,expelled and kicked like a football all over places for thousands of years?Is your God that mean or He knows some facts that you're trying to hide?

Wassalam

salam Tun,

ZIONIST JEWS ARE THE BEST AND GREATEST LAND ROBBERS.

ZIONIST JEWS ARE CHILDREN AND WOMEN KILLERS.

THERE'S NO NEED TO BEAT AROUND THE BUSH.

JEWS ARE THE MAIN ROOT CAUSE OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD TODAY.

Jeng3

Dear Tun and fellow bloggers,

to Hanan, i like ur spirit.

1. unfortunately, we are aware that what are u trying to say here is nothing. u can come out with as many fact as u like. i appreciate it but it will change nothing at the end of the day. u start it, u u better finish it.

2. back to the main issue here, israeli army attacked Gaza and palestinian. they killed innocent people i.e woman, children etc. i still remeber when 911 tragedy in New York, the respond made by Tun Dr. Mahathir - he wants the world to find the root of the matter. why terrorist act like that. (actually i strongly believe that 911 is just another liar story mad by Bush and his proxy to attacked Iraq)

3. till the day i write this post, there is no single weapon of mass destruction found in Iraq.but, what happened to Iraq? justice?

4. zionist took palestinian land and u just want them to wait and see the next chapter of their life and generation?

wake up Hanan!! don't let stupid fact blind ur eyes.

5. in a nutshell, from what u wrote about civilization that try to wiped out jew before, i can say that u are so ARROGANT!

most of them collpase not because of JEW. pls read ur history book

f.n - i'm not emotional and i believe most of fellow friend here are not emotional. they just want to deliver their opinion and tell the truth. i think the one who is emotional here is u

kepada Tun,

maafkan sy. sy sgt mengagumi kewibawaan Tun. teruskan curahkn idea dan pandangan membina Tun utk kepentingan sejagat. Tun bukan milik Malaysia semata, tp Tun milik seluruh dunia. Teruskan, moga Allah memberkati. Ameen.

perjuangan belum selesai..

assalamualaykum Tun,
Mashallah, Very well said. May Allah reward you.

Dear "I love Jews"

You wrote....,

if part of malaysia is given to jews, i would gladly accept it! I m malaysian by the way! I doubt the texans would kill the jews just because their land is given over to the jews. You are jumping to conclusions here Dr. mahathir. Have you seen how civilised americans are compared to the palestinians, iranians etc etc? The problem is not with the land given to israel..it is because the jews are the enemies of islam! And the true muslims will not rest until jews are destroyed under their feet.
oh ya, how do you explain this?
Palestinian militants detonated a bomb targeting an Israeli army patrol along the Gaza border. And this is just a few days after the truce!!!
Can u trust hamas????

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My comment......
if part of malaysia is given to jews, i would gladly accept it!

-You would better apply for Israeli citizenship.Because we, loyal Malaysian citizen, under normal circumstances are not going to give our land to the Jews!

I m malaysian by the way!
-What's the point of telling everybody that you are a Malaysian, you seem not to love and pledge your loyalty to this country, willing to give everything to the Jews.Are you worshipping the Jews? ( Are you the student mentored by Hanan?)

I doubt the texans would kill the jews just because their land is given over to the jews.
-I have no doubt about this.Look at the American civil war, do you know what is the causes of the war? The south once declared independence from the Union/federation.Off course not because of the Jews!

You are jumping to conclusions here Dr. mahathir.
-This is not a conclusion my friend, nobody could conclude what Texan is going to respond if Texas were to be given to the Jews.We can always opine/think of what's gonna happen-not conclude. Only God knows, and I don't think you knows either. I do believe, Texan is not going to be happy. They may do what Tun says......may be (I dont conclude that way).There are a lot of fighting over land...American fought British, American fought American (civil war)

Have you seen how civilised americans are compared to the palestinians, iranians etc etc?
-I don't quite understand, how civilised American is.what do you mean?
-Imprison people without trial,in Guantanamo. Justice is only for American citizen not the rest of world citizen?
-Refuse to joint or sign international treaty/agreement that is beneficial to the world but not to the American gov interest
-Torture to extract information, remember water boarding?
-Their rendition exercise
-Attack another country base on lies/wrong info
-Count how many people die because of the American Wars?
-How many people the Palestinian kill?...Compare it with Israel? See the number
-How many war the Iranian fight? How many Jews Iran kill? Tell us my fren? How many Iranian died because of American?
That's modern civilised American

Let's look at some old civilised American
-Slavery.
-Segregation, black and white - different school,bus etc.
-racism

After 200 years they just have a half black President.

The problem is not with the land given to israel..it is because the jews are the enemies of islam!
-Just go back before 1948,before Israel was created-can you tell me how muslims treat the Jews? Don't you know that Muslim were proctecting the Jews in Andalusia, while they were killed in Europe.Do you know that the Quran tells us to believe in Abraham,Moses,David etc a lot of Jewish prophet, read the book my fren. But god want us to be careful with the Jews because they are not truthful, they even killed the prophet God send to them. When Islam conquered Jerusalem or when Islam was at its highest stake, did we exterminate the Jews? If so when Islam held a big empire and a lot of Jews resided within the empire......the muslims ruler could have killed all the Jews? Can you tell me when that happen if the problem is not because of land but religion as you claimed.I strongly believe the problem is because of land. The Palestinians are not all muslim.

And the true muslims will not rest until jews are destroyed under their feet.
-Tell me, when the muslims rule, when we destroy the Jews?
-Palestinian are fighting for their land.

oh ya, how do you explain this?
Palestinian militants detonated a bomb targeting an Israeli army patrol along the Gaza border. And this is just a few days after the truce!!!
Can u trust hamas????
-Is there a truce?. It's only a unilateral cease-fire declared by both side. There is no agreement sign between the two, Egypt still not successful in brokering a truce.Israel still siege Gaza and continue to bomb Gaza.
-Both side break the cease-fire
-Can you trust the Jews?

I am for peace, I hope one day there will be two states living side by side. One is Israel and another is Palestine. I do want to visit the historical place. But I strongly comdemn the killing of children,babies,woman and elderly. If Hamas fired the rocket, go and look for Hamas not other people. As for you, start applying for Israel citizen......I may go and visit you when the two states were established.

I found it strange and sad for you to justify the killing of civilian by anyway you can think of.

God bless you my friend, everybody will face death, civilised people do not murder children,elderly and woman as you claim how civilised American is. It's for you to do some soul seraching......What do you want here in this blog.....just support what the Jews did. It's up to you................Peace to the world, that's my pray!

Hanan,

I am simply appalled at your previous posting (slightly before the last one) where it is very clear that you are so unrelenting and without remorse whatsoever with regard to the current topic at hand. No indication of regret nor sympathy towards the Palestinian civilians who were maimed and murdered in Gaza Strip was ever registered by you so far. Instead, only spite and bitterness towards the Palestinians is evident from your comments.

And now, we can sense an attempt by you to register some tinge of dislike towards the Muslims in general with your inclusion of a particular article extract. A very sly & sneaky attempt, I’d say & typically Jewish at that.

In this regard, this time around and in this posting I will try my level best to make you sober-up and come to your senses. I will really have come up with spicy facts and make you reconsider your past remarks. This, I promise you.

Whether you turn a new leaf or to remain unrelenting and insolent, it is up to you. At least, you have provided me the opportunity to expose and pour out the years of research that I have made on the issues of Zionism, Israel, the Jews, etc. - into this forum for all to read and see. And what more at this very popular blogsite of Tun Dr. Mahathir that is visited by more than a million visitors per month – the world over. Thank you for the opportunity…, Hanan.

Of course, this is subject should the moderator (The good Tun Dr.) allows my comments to be posted.

So OK, let’s roll.

Again you lack originality and have resorted to plagiarize the works of others to prove some obscure point. Anyway, since you have quoted from the works of this Rami Kaminski MD fella, it is apparent that guy’s attempts to push the idea and concept of the ‘Holocaust’, that supposedly millions of Jews had died or suffered during the 2nd World War.

Well, I have some updated news for you, Hanan. Many by now have regarded that there is no such thing as ‘The Holocaust’. Many believe that the Holocaust is a pure gimmick and hoax by International Zionism to duped the whole world for their agenda in getting public sympathy towards the Jews so that creation of the State of Israel is finalized and condoned with full blessing by the Western World especially.

Also, Hollywood had been harnessed and utilized to its fullest extent by Jewish and Zionist interest groups to produce films and movies to reach and touch public sentiment and sympathy. Lately films such as ‘Schindler’s List’, ‘The Pianist’ and such like were given high acclaim by Western film reviewers and critics alike.

Purportedly about 6,000,000 Jews were incinerated in concentration camps by The Nazis during the 2nd World War. We are told that the Auschwitz concentration camp is the most notorious of all. But is all this story true?

On the other hand, quite a handful proponents of this Holocaust myth had been severely dealt with and had been slammed into jail for pushing across their findings in denying that the so-called Holocaust had ever took place. To these proponents, many of the general public have failed to realise that the Holocaust is purely a hoax and a complete myth perpetrated by International Zionism.

And today, quite a number of those proponents of the ‘Holocaust Lies’, have had themselves severely punished, even by their own Western & European Courts.

Can you imagine this. One can mock the Prophet Muhammed SAW and draw cartoons of him. One can urinate on & use the Holy Quran’s pages as toilet paper (as purportedly happened in Guantenamo Bay and in Abu Ghraib prison by the prisoners’ handlers & interrogators). One can mock, curse or criticize Jesus Christ, can spit on Buddha’s statue and array of other hideous acts, but the Western Media would have not much to say about it or would even dismiss it as some small and negligible issue.

But if one denies that ‘The Holocaust’ had really happen or took place, and claim it to be as some kind of myth, then even the ‘free’ Western Courts will throw the book at you, slam you into prison and throw away the keys! That is how powerful and influential International Zionism is, with their tentacles having a strong strangle-hold over just about every system at almost every corner of this earth! And make no mistake about this!

Some of the most notable proponents of this view and who have had to face the music & wrath of the Jewish & Zionists concerns, are such those as Ernst Zundel and Michael Irving.

Firstly, let’s hear what Mr. Ernst Zundel have to say about the Holocaust issue, as per the link below:-

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/1095837/4021203

We can also view various compilation on Mr. Zundel, as below:-

http://www.rense.com/Datapages/zunddata.htm

http://www.savethemales.ca/001430.html

Next, we have Mr. David Irving’s version of the Holocaust, as per the link below:-

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=david+irving&emb=0#

Mr. Irving’s had even challenged anyone to prove anything that he had said about the so-called Holocaust is incorrect, will be rewarded US$1,000,000/= by him, in cash. And till this day no one have yet to take up his challenge.

Another very touching story was when a German lawyer who was sent to jail by her own German Courts in Germany for facing charges as a ‘Holocaust Denier’. Sylvia Stoltz was even disbarred to practice law. Read about her ordeal as per the link, below:-

http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Sylvia.Stolzs.Last.Words.in.Court.htm

So you see, the Western Nations’ version of ‘Free Society’ is pure hypocrisy. If one draws some cartoons of Prophet Muhammad SAW and mock it, well that’s – Freedom of Speech & Expression! But when one questions or denies that the Holocaust had really happened, well that is a very serious & grievous crime! How bias and stupid..!

So you see what I mean when I say that the world is virtually in the strangle-hold of certain Jewish concerns and the Zionists influence over just about every system and at almost every corner of this earth! And apparently, even some the Western & European Courts of Law appears to be in their mighty grip! How alarming.

So Hanan, please do not attempt to toy with the sentiments of some the readers here by displaying notes and stories from that Rami Kaminski fella. Sooner or later the truth will surely surface to reveal the ugly face and evil agenda of International Zionism.

Bit by bit the truth is creeping out now. Truth will surely overcome Falsehood. And the Holocaust story is beginning to show its discrepancies. And many have to be told about it.

And you Hanan, in a way have spurred me on and gave me the 'motivation' to tell the whole world about the 'Holocaust' lies in this forum/platform. Thank you for the ‘favour’.

Cheerio for now.

Now this is not making any sense when the Holocause deniers couldn't provide any evidence and answers to how the 6 million jews disappear from the Earth.

sallam Tun dan rakan rakan

izin saya ambil petikan surah Bani Israel dalam alquran.
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1.Masa Gemilang kejahatan untuk Bani Israel ialah 2 kali, kali pertama kegemilangan mereka kami hantar hamba kami yang gagah untuk menghukum mereka dan mereka dikalahkan.

2.kemudian kami bangkitkan mereka semula dan kami berkati dengan harta dan anak-anak moga-moga mereka sedar adan melakukan kebaikan.Tetapi mereka kembali melakukan kejahatan.

3.(kali kedua)Pada puncak KEANGAKUHAN mereka, kami utuskan hamba kami semula untuk menghukum mereka. Mereka akan masuk ke masjid dan akan mengalahkan mereka dan mereka (bani israel) akan kalah selama-lamanya.
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kunci kata utama (key words)ialah puncak KEANGKUHAN mereka. Pada ramalan saya inilah masanya kejatuhan mereka dimana KEANGKUHAN mereka pada tahap yang tertinggi.

Pada kali pertama semasa mereka menguasai ekonomi eropah dan penduduk German terpaksa berhutang dengan ceti-ceti yahudi (sejarah yang di ketahui umum), diutuskan Hitler untuk melaknat kan kaum ini.

Saya bukan seorang penulis tetapi Hanan mencabar maruah kita. Pantang anak melayu dicabar. Biar saya terangkan apa yang akan terjadi kepada mereka. Musuh yahudi bukan islam tetapi diri mereka sendiri dan konco-konco (allies) mereka. Sukar untuk di percayai?...Read on..

Saya pernah berhujah dengan seorang mubaliqh kristian.. yang menyatakan jika Isa tuhan maka kaum yahudi ialah tuhan. so we must worship them. (no offence) Maaf it was hard to belive. Saya kata kan jika saya seorang kritian and a Goyim (gentile) a.k.a non-jewish why should I limit myself to be a man while they are gods. Sudah tentu saya akan dapatkan at all cost organ-organ badan mereka dan darah mereka and to replace my body parts with those "Gods parts".

Or i can sell "god's" kidney into the black market at high stake. Perkara ini akan insyallah terjadi suatu hari. Dan pasaran permintaannya bukan orang islam.

Tetapi saya akui..Kaum yahudi di lebihkan dari kaum lain. Dalam Al quran ada dinyatakan "o CHILDREN OF ISRAEL I bless you more than anyone else in the universe"..Kenapa tuhan lebihkan? jawapannya "My wisdom is not to be questioned" kata Allah.

Kata kunci dalam ayat ini ialah CHILDREN OF ISRAEL maknanya keturunan yahudi, Darah yahudi, DNA yahudi. Dan Rahmat tuhan kepada mereka memang ketara dengan kepandaian, kekayaaan dan putarbelit.
Mereka mencipta berbagai-bagai benda terutamanya consumer products, ubat gigi, minuman, kedai kopi, gula gula, dan produk - produk mereka dilebihkan oleh tuhan. Sedangkan orang lain juga mampu mengeluarkan produk-produk yang sama tapi tak mampu bersaing. Untuk itu ramai yang ambil jalan if you cannot beat them join them.

Maka ramailah yang terpaksa submit ke kaum yahudi ini dan jadi boneka tunggu masa untuk diperhambakan. Yang untung orang German kerana sewaktu peperangan WW1 dan WW2 ribuan askar german yang cedera menerima darah dari tabung darah Concentration Camp yahudi. Atas sebab yang tertentu mereka dapat menafaat dari DNA yahudi ini. Apabila perang tamat mereka kebanyakanya bekerja di bengkel dan mendapat inspirasi untuk mencipta peralatan jentera, motosikal kereta, Television dan berbagai-bagai lagi hingga ke anak cucu mereka.

Buktinya sehebat mana pun orang jepun mencipta Toyota tak kan sama dengan BMW. Orang german tahu perkara ini tetapi merasiakan dari dunia. Jadi kenapa talibarut yahudi di asia menghadkan diri mereka jadi orang suruhan, mereka juga ingin bersaing di dunia ini. Rahsia ini akan disedari juga oleh dunia satu hari nanti. Pasaran utama untuk DNA dan organ kaum yang di berkati ini ialah di Hongkong dan Jepun. DNA ini di perlukan oleh industrialis, Banker, film Maker, Pemilik pusat judi dan pengeluar barang konsumer dan lain-lain yang ingin bersaing di pasaran dunia...Read on.

Bila DNA sesuatu keturunan itu ada pasaran dan permintaan tinggi sekuatmanapun senjata yang dicipta takkan mampu melindungi mereka. Di Amerika kaum ini tak kan mampu berjalan tanpa diekori untuk di sembelih. Bayangkan dunia memerlukan darah dan organ anda. Apa yang mampu anda lakukan. Waktu inilah Bani israel akan berbaik semula dengan orang islam dan minta di lindungi...Again!.

Apa bila permintaan DNA semakin tinggi terutamanya dari Cina, sejauh mana mereka lari atau sehulu mana pun mereka berlindung tak ada sesiapa mampu menahan mereka dari di sembelih kecuali tuhan.
Cukuplah setakat ini...kerana apa yang akan berlaku seterusnya lebih mengerunkan.

Saya harap insyallah kemenangan yang bakal terjadi ini dapat menyejukkan hati mereka yang bersimpati dengan rakyat Palestin.
Saya tak minta perkara ini terjadi tetapi mereka (bani israel) yang meminta dan tuhan itu adil.

Dear MKM,

You wrote something that it is very special for you and worthy to be published:

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"Good Day TUN and to all Jews haters,

To Hanan,

Please take your twisted explanation somewhere else.Everybody that reads your comment knows that you really are a retarded moron.Seriuosly you Jews really are bunch of morons.I personally think that you Jews are brought up so violently because when you (Jews) were an infant you were sucking up to a smelly Wild Pig milks.
Long Live Adolf Hitler and long live Hamas Fighters.May you keep continue to fight the Jews and send them to hell."
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I see God blessed you with many good attributes and habits. From what you have written I can understand that you are a most handsome person, a gentleman, respectful, etc...
But unfortunately God missed out to bless you (or did it intentionally) with a bit more in one of your attributes. Guess what is it?
If you couldn’t think of what is it, let me help you out.
You are wise, but not enough that's why you are thinking with a dull logic. you lost creativity by saying "you were sucking up to a smelly Wild Pig milks". This is something that was invented already by others and I'm already know that. How can it be "Long Live adolf hitler" since he is not around for more that 65 years and that beast is resting in hell. How can that person "long live"? And finally you compared Hamas to hitler. You should be ashamed saying that since it is just degrading the Hamas.
I hope you can think about something more innovative, more elevating to the “charity organization” of Hamas. Do it just to discard my assumption that God blessed you with an empty cranium.

Hahahaha... A good jokey that MKM.
I surely lost the debate with you.

Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist.

Assalamualaikum Tun,

Excuse me Tun,
To Hanan,

When you jumped into this bandwagon for sure you'll be shot from all sides. What do you expect, to be showered with flowers and praises? No my dear Hanan, face the consequences and don't scorn and get all tense up.
If you want to state your stand, do it in your own words and not
from someone else's works or words or written articles, and please not from a psycho or a schizophrenic. And also don't go on a merry-go-round or a long and winding road, just be precise and straight to the point whatever is in your mind.

With all the "presentations" that you've sent us, so you assume that we will be subdued and succumb to your "sermons". Mind you Hanan, you can never suffocate us with your untruths and propagandas. Or are you on a secret mission, Hanan, to pull in as many "friends" as you can?
Well, good for you, Hanan there are who swallow just about anything you fed them.

Wars bring sorrows to everyone and that is why our Tun is on a sacred mission to make war a criminal. If you want to bring peace and end to this conflict forever why don't you embark on this mission too instead of instigating more hatred towards you.
Don't submit yourself to being a bad Jew. Be a good Jew. That's what the Torah teaches you, isn't it. Follow its true teachings and not be easily influenced by some pathetic fallacies.

Thank you and may you find peace.

Tun, keep on striving for peace in the world. We are behind you all the way. Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.

Straight forward- I have seen most of the commentors here, from half a world away, think they are experts not only in the basic facts, but also expert in general history and middle east history. I am sure that most of you think that the Arabian Legends as 'Ali-Babba and the 40 robbers', or 'Aladin' are pure true history facts...
This may explain your ignorance and fanatic way of thinking. You really want anyone to concider your satnds? -Then go and seek out for the Truth. Search for objective sources, not just those which you like that are fed and funded by cheap propaganda. Lets see you face the actual facts of history even if it is against your fanatic brain-washed beliefs. I am not going to lecture any of you about history facts because for the most of you I may not be considered objective, but at least I Visit, Read and Learn before I dare deny others or put up a stand in public.
And lastly, the most interesting part of this blogg is that it seems more practical to get some level of understanding with my local Arab friends than trying to get any understanding from most of you ignorant commentors. Unfortunately those malay friends who dare study the facts and think for them selves are too intimidated to make up their stand openly, but they keep backing me up in e-mails. (-Please keep it on, I truely admire you guys!)
At this point its better to leave all you fanatic commentors to your own warmth of your hate and incitment which keeps you driving. I am sure that leaving you off will make you happy and free to incite and hate more.

May God bring you the wisdom to think for yourselves and not be fed by others ideas.
All the best,
Never been more proud of my Democratic state of ISRAEL,

Alon.

1933

Jan 30, 1933 - Adolf Hitler is appointed Chancellor of Germany a nation with a Jewish population of 566,000.

Feb 22, 1933 - 40,000 SA and SS men are sworn in as auxiliary police.

Feb 27, 1933 - Nazis burn Reichstag building to create crisis atmosphere.

Feb 28, 1933 - Emergency powers granted to Hitler as a result of the Reichstag fire.

March 22, 1933 - Nazis open Dachau concentration camp near Munich, to be followed by Buchenwald near Weimar in central Germany, Sachsenhausen near Berlin in northern Germany, and Ravensbrück for women.

March 24, 1933 - German Parliament passes Enabling Act giving Hitler dictatorial powers.

See also - The Rise of Hitler - from Unknown to Dictator of Germany

April 1, 1933 - Nazis stage boycott of Jewish shops and businesses.

April 11, 1933 - Nazis issue a decree defining a non-Aryan as "anyone descended from non-Aryan, especially Jewish, parents or grandparents. One parent or grandparent classifies the descendant as non-Aryan...especially if one parent or grandparent was of the Jewish faith."

April 26, 1933 - The Gestapo is born, created by Hermann Göring in the German state of Prussia.

May 10, 1933 - Burning of books in Berlin and throughout Germany.

July 14, 1933 - Nazi Party is declared the only legal party in Germany; Also, Nazis pass Law to strip Jewish immigrants from Poland of their German citizenship.

In July - Nazis pass law allowing for forced sterilization of those found by a Hereditary Health Court to have genetic defects.

In Sept - Nazis establish Reich Chamber of Culture, then exclude Jews from the Arts.

Sept 29, 1933 - Nazis prohibit Jews from owning land.

Oct 4, 1933 - Jews are prohibited from being newspaper editors.

Nov 24, 1933 - Nazis pass a Law against Habitual and Dangerous Criminals, which allows beggars, the homeless, alcoholics and the unemployed to be sent to concentration camps.

1934

Jan 24, 1934 - Jews are banned from the German Labor Front.

May 17, 1934 - Jews not allowed national health insurance.

June 30, 1934 - The Night of Long Knives occurs as Hitler, Göring and Himmler conduct a purge of the SA (storm trooper) leadership.

July 20, 1934 - The SS (Schutzstaffel) is made an independent organization from the SA.

July 22, 1934 - Jews are prohibited from getting legal qualifications.

Aug 2, 1934 - German President von Hindenburg dies. Hitler becomes Führer.

Aug 19, 1934 - Hitler receives a 90 percent 'Yes' vote from German voters approving his new powers.

1935

May 21, 1935 - Nazis ban Jews from serving in the military.

June 26, 1935 - Nazis pass law allowing forced abortions on women to prevent them from passing on hereditary diseases.

Aug 6, 1935 - Nazis force Jewish performers/artists to join Jewish Cultural Unions.

Sept 15, 1935 - Nuremberg Race Laws against Jews decreed.

1936

Feb 10, 1936 - The German Gestapo is placed above the law.

In March - SS Deathshead division is established to guard concentration camps.

March 7, 1936 - Nazis occupy the Rhineland.

June 17, 1936 - Heinrich Himmler is appointed chief of the German Police.

Aug 1, 1936 - Olympic games begin in Berlin. Hitler and top Nazis seek to gain legitimacy through favorable public opinion from foreign visitors and thus temporarily refrain from actions against Jews.

In Aug - Nazis set up an Office for Combating Homosexuality and Abortions (by healthy women).

1937

In Jan - Jews are banned from many professional occupations including teaching Germans, and from being accountants or dentists. They are also denied tax reductions and child allowances.

Nov 8, 1937 - 'Eternal Jew' travelling exhibition opens in Munich.

1938 Return to Top of Page

March 12/13, 1938 - Nazi troops enter Austria, which has a population of 200,000 Jews, mainly living in Vienna. Hitler announces Anschluss (union) with Austria.

In March - After the Anschluss, the SS is placed in charge of Jewish affairs in Austria with Adolf Eichmann establishing an Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna. Himmler then establishes Mauthausen concentration camp near Linz.

April 22, 1938 - Nazis prohibit Aryan 'front-ownership' of Jewish businesses.

April 26, 1938 - Nazis order Jews to register wealth and property.

June 14, 1938 - Nazis order Jewish owned businesses to register.

In July - At Evian, France, the U.S. convenes a League of Nations conference with delegates from 32 countries to consider helping Jews fleeing Hitler, but results in inaction as no country will accept them.

July 6, 1938 - Nazis prohibited Jews from trading and providing a variety of specified commercial services.

July 23, 1938 - Nazis order Jews over age 15 to apply for identity cards from the police, to be shown on demand to any police officer.

July 25, 1938 - Jewish doctors prohibited by law from practicing medicine.

Aug 11, 1938 - Nazis destroy the synagogue in Nuremberg.

Aug 17, 1938 - Nazis require Jewish women to add Sarah and men to add Israel to their names on all legal documents including passports.

Sept 27, 1938 - Jews are prohibited from all legal practices.

Oct 5, 1938 - Law requires Jewish passports to be stamped with a large red "J."

Oct 15, 1938 - Nazi troops occupy the Sudetenland.

Oct 28, 1938 - Nazis arrest 17,000 Jews of Polish nationality living in Germany, then expel them back to Poland which refuses them entry, leaving them in 'no-man's land' near the Polish border for several months.

Nov 7, 1938 - Ernst vom Rath, third secretary in the German Embassy in Paris, is shot and mortally wounded by Herschel Grynszpan, the 17 year old son of one of the deported Polish Jews. Rath dies on November 9, precipitating Kristallnacht.

Nov 9/10 - Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass.

Nov 12, 1938 - Nazis fine Jews one billion marks for damages related to Kristallnacht.

Nov 15, 1938 - Jewish pupils are expelled from all non-Jewish German schools.

Dec 3, 1938 - Law for compulsory Aryanization of all Jewish businesses.

Dec 14, 1938 - Hermann Göring takes charge of resolving the "Jewish Question."

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Jan 24, 1939 - SS leader Reinhard Heydrich is ordered by Göring to speed up emigration of Jews.

Jan 30, 1939 - Hitler threatens Jews during Reichstag speech.

Feb 21, 1939 - Nazis force Jews to hand over all gold and silver items.

March 15/16 - Nazi troops seize Czechoslovakia (Jewish pop. 350,000).

April 19, 1939 - Slovakia passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.

April 30, 1939 - Jews lose rights as tenants and are relocated into Jewish houses.

In May - The St. Louis, a ship crowded with 930 Jewish refugees, is turned away by Cuba, the United States and other countries and returns to Europe.

July 4, 1939 - German Jews denied the right to hold government jobs.

July 21, 1939 - Adolf Eichmann is appointed director of the Prague Office of Jewish Emigration.

Sept 1, 1939 - Nazis invade Poland (Jewish pop. 3.35 million, the largest in Europe). Beginning of SS activity in Poland.

See also - World War Two in Europe Timeline

Sept 1, 1939 - Jews in Germany are forbidden to be outdoors after 8 p.m. in winter and 9 p.m. in summer.

Sept 3, 1939 - England and France declare war on Germany.

Sept 4, 1939 - Warsaw is cut off by the German Army.

Sept 17, 1939 - Soviet troops invade eastern Poland.

Sept 21, 1939 - Heydrich issues instructions to SS Einsatzgruppen (special action squads) in Poland regarding treatment of Jews, stating they are to be gathered into ghettos near railroads for the future "final goal." He also orders a census and the establishment of Jewish administrative councils within the ghettos to implement Nazi policies and decrees.

Sept 23, 1939 - German Jews are forbidden to own wireless (radio) sets.

Sept 27, 1939 - Warsaw surrenders; Heydrich becomes leader of RSHA.

Sept 29, 1939 - Nazis and Soviets divide up Poland. Over two million Jews reside in Nazi controlled areas, leaving 1.3 million in the Soviet area.

In Sept - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "The Jewish people ought to be exterminated root and branch. Then the plague of pests would have disappeared in Poland at one stroke."

In Oct - Nazis begin euthanasia on sick and disabled in Germany.

Oct 6, 1939 - Proclamation by Hitler on the isolation of Jews.

Oct 12, 1939 - Evacuation of Jews from Vienna.

Oct 12, 1939 - Hans Frank appointed Nazi Gauleiter (governor) of Poland.

Oct 26, 1939 - Forced labor decree issued for Polish Jews aged 14 to 60.

Nov 23, 1939 - Yellow stars required to be worn by Polish Jews over age 10.

In Dec - Adolf Eichmann takes over section IV B4 of the Gestapo dealing solely with Jewish affairs and evacuations.

1940 Return to Top of Page

Jan 25, 1940 - Nazis choose the town of Oswiecim (Auschwitz) in Poland near Krakow as site of new concentration camp.

In Jan - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "...The time is near when a machine will go into motion which is going to prepare a grave for the world's criminal - Judah - from which there will be no resurrection."

Feb 12, 1940 - First deportation of German Jews into occupied Poland.

April 9, 1940 - Nazis invade Denmark (Jewish pop. 8,000) and Norway (Jewish pop. 2,000).

April 30, 1940 - The Lodz Ghetto in occupied Poland is sealed off from the outside world with 230,000 Jews locked inside.

May 1, 1940 - Rudolf Höss is chosen to be kommandant of Auschwitz.

May 10, 1940 - Nazis invade France (Jewish pop. 350,000), Belgium (Jewish pop. 65,000), Holland (Jewish pop. 140,000), and Luxembourg (Jewish pop. 3,500).

June 14, 1940 - Paris is occupied by the Nazis.

June 22, 1940 - France signs an armistice with Hitler.

In July - Eichmann's Madagascar Plan presented, proposing to deport all European Jews to the island of Madagascar, off the coast of east Africa.

July 17, 1940 - The first anti-Jewish measures are taken in Vichy France.

Aug 8, 1940 - Romania introduces anti-Jewish measures restricting education and employment, then later begins "Romanianization" of Jewish businesses.

Sept 27, 1940 - Tripartite (Axis) Pact signed by Germany, Italy and Japan.

Oct 3, 1940 - Vichy France passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.

Oct 7, 1940 - Nazis invade Romania (Jewish pop. 34,000).

Oct 22, 1940 - Deportation of 29,000 German Jews from Baden, the Saar, and Alsace-Lorraine into Vichy France.

In Nov - Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia become Nazi Allies.

In Nov - The Krakow Ghetto is sealed off containing 70,000 Jews.

Nov 15, 1940 - The Warsaw Ghetto, containing over 400,000 Jews, is sealed off.

1941 Return to Top of Page

In 1941 - Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states, "I ask nothing of the Jews except that they should disappear."

In Jan - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "Now judgment has begun and it will reach its conclusion only when knowledge of the Jews has been erased from the earth."

In Jan - A pogrom in Romania results in over 2,000 Jews killed.

Feb 22, 1941 - 430 Jewish hostages are deported from Amsterdam after a Dutch Nazi is killed by Jews.

In March - Hitler's Commissar Order authorizes execution of anyone suspected of being a Communist official in territories about to be seized from the Soviets.

March 1, 1941 - Himmler makes his first visit to Auschwitz, during which he orders Kommandant Höss to begin massive expansion, including a new compound to be built at nearby Birkenau that can hold 100,000 prisoners.

March 2, 1941 - Nazis occupy Bulgaria (Jewish pop. 50,000).

March 7, 1941 - German Jews ordered into forced labor.

March 26, 1941 - The German Army High Command gives approval to RSHA and Heydrich on the tasks of SS murder squads (Einsatzgruppen) in occupied Poland.

March 29, 1941 - A 'Commissariat' for Jewish Affairs is set up in Vichy France.

April 6, 1941 - Nazis invade Yugoslavia (Jewish pop. 75,000) and Greece (Jewish pop. 77,000).

May 14, 1941 - 3,600 Jews arrested in Paris.

May 16, 1941 - French Marshal Petain issues a radio broadcast approving collaboration with Hitler.

June 22, 1941 - Nazis invade the Soviet Union (Jewish pop. 3 million).

June 29/30 - Romanian troops conduct a pogrom against Jews in the town of Jassy, killing 10,000.

Summer - Himmler summons Auschwitz Kommandant Höss to Berlin and tells him, "The Führer has ordered the Final Solution of the Jewish question. We, the SS, have to carry out this order...I have therefore chosen Auschwitz for this purpose."

In July - As the German Army advances, SS Einsatzgruppen follow along and conduct mass murder of Jews in seized lands.

In July - Ghettos established at Kovno, Minsk, Vitebsk and Zhitomer. Also in July, the government of Vichy France seizes Jewish owned property.

July 17, 1941 - Nazi racial 'philosopher' Alfred Rosenberg is appointed Reich Minister for the Eastern Occupied Territories to administer territories seized from the Soviet Union.

July 21, 1941 - In occupied Poland near Lublin, Majdanek concentration camp becomes operational.

July 25/26 - 3,800 Jews killed during a pogrom by Lithuanians in Kovno.

July 31, 1941 - Göring instructs Heydrich to prepare for Final Solution.

In Aug - Jews in Romania forced into Transnistria. By December, 70,000 perish.

In Aug - Ghettos established at Bialystok and Lvov.

Aug 26, 1941 - The Hungarian Army rounds up 18,000 Jews at Kamenets-Podolsk.

Sept 3, 1941 - The first test use of Zyklon-B gas at Auschwitz.

Sept 1, 1941 - German Jews ordered to wear yellow stars.

Sept 6, 1941 - The Vilna Ghetto is established containing 40,000 Jews.

Sept 17, 1941 - Beginning of general deportation of German Jews.

Sept 19, 1941 - Nazis take Kiev.

Sept 27/28 - 23,000 Jews killed at Kamenets-Podolsk, in the Ukraine.

Sept 29/30 - SS Einsatzgruppen murder 33,771 Jews at Babi Yar near Kiev.

In Oct - 35,000 Jews from Odessa shot.

Oct 2, 1941 - Beginning of the German Army drive on Moscow.

Oct 23, 1941 - Nazis forbid emigration of Jews from the Reich.

In Nov - SS Einsatzgruppe B reports a tally of 45,476 Jews killed.

Nov 24, 1941 - Theresienstadt Ghetto is established near Prague, Czechoslovakia. The Nazis will use it as a model ghetto for propaganda purposes.

Nov 30, 1941 - Near Riga, a mass shooting of Latvian and German Jews.

Dec 7, 1941 - Japanese attack United States at Pearl Harbor. The next day the U.S. and Britain declare war on Japan.

Dec 8, 1941 - In occupied Poland, near Lodz, Chelmno extermination camp becomes operational. Jews taken there are placed in mobile gas vans and driven to a burial place while carbon monoxide from the engine exhaust is fed into the sealed rear compartment, killing them. The first gassing victims include 5,000 Gypsies who had been deported from the Reich to Lodz.

Dec 11, 1941 - Hitler declares war on the United States. Roosevelt then declares war on Germany saying, "Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization." The U.S.A. then enters the war in Europe and will concentrate nearly 90 percent of its military resources to defeat Hitler.

Dec 12, 1941 - The ship "Struma" leaves Romania for Palestine carrying 769 Jews but is later denied permission by British authorities to allow the passengers to disembark. In Feb. 1942, it sails back into the Black Sea where it is intercepted by a Soviet submarine and sunk as an "enemy target."

Dec 16, 1941 - During a cabinet meeting, Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states - "Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourselves of all feeling of pity. We must annihilate the Jews wherever we find them and wherever it is possible in order to maintain there the structure of the Reich as a whole..."

1942 Return to Top of Page

In Jan - Mass killings of Jews using Zyklon-B begin at Auschwitz-Birkenau in Bunker I (the red farmhouse) in Birkenau with the bodies being buried in mass graves in a nearby meadow.

Jan 20, 1942 - Wannsee Conference to coordinate the "Final Solution."

Jan 31, 1942 - SS Einsatzgruppe A reports a tally of 229,052 Jews killed.

In March - In occupied Poland, Belzec extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with permanent gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.

March 17, 1942 - The deportation of Jews from Lublin to Belzec.

March 24, 1942 - The start of deportation of Slovak Jews to Auschwitz.

March 27, 1942 - The start of deportation of French Jews to Auschwitz.

March 28, 1942 - Fritz Sauckel named Chief of Manpower to expedite recruitment of slave labor.

March 30, 1942 - First trainloads of Jews from Paris arrive at Auschwitz.

In April - First transports of Jews arrive at Majdanek.

April 20, 1942 - German Jews are banned from using public transportation.

In May - In occupied Poland, Sobibor extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with three gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.

May 18, 1942 - The New York Times reports on an inside page that Nazis have machine-gunned over 100,000 Jews in the Baltic states, 100,000 in Poland and twice as many in western Russia.

May 27, 1942 - SS leader Heydrich is mortally wounded by Czech Underground agents.

In June - Gas vans used in Riga.

June 1, 1942 - Jews in France, Holland, Belgium, Croatia, Slovakia, Romania ordered to wear yellow stars.

June 4, 1942 - Heydrich dies of his wounds.

June 5, 1942 - SS report 97,000 persons have been "processed" in mobile gas vans.

June 10, 1942 - Nazis liquidate Lidice in retaliation for Heydrich's death.

June 11, 1942 - Eichmann meets with representatives from France, Belgium and Holland to coordinate deportation plans for Jews.

June 30, 1942 - At Auschwitz, a second gas chamber, Bunker II (the white farmhouse), is made operational at Birkenau due to the number of Jews arriving.

June 30 and July 2 - The New York Times reports via the London Daily Telegraph that over 1,000,000 Jews have already been killed by Nazis.

Summer - Swiss representatives of the World Jewish Congress receive information from a German industrialist regarding the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews. They then pass the information on to London and Washington.

July 2, 1942 - Jews from Berlin sent to Theresienstadt.

July 7, 1942 - Himmler grants permission for sterilization experiments at Auschwitz.

July 14, 1942 - Beginning of deportation of Dutch Jews to Auschwitz.

July 16/17 - 12,887 Jews of Paris are rounded up and sent to Drancy Internment Camp located outside the city. A total of approximately 74,000 Jews, including 11,000 children, will eventually be transported from Drancy to Auschwitz, Majdanek and Sobibor.

July 17/18 - Himmler visits Auschwitz-Birkenau for two days, inspecting all ongoing construction and expansion, then observes the extermination process from start to finish as two trainloads of Jews arrive from Holland. Kommandant Höss is then promoted. Construction includes four large gas chamber/crematories.

July 19, 1942 - Himmler orders Operation Reinhard, mass deportations of Jews in Poland to extermination camps.

July 22, 1942 - Beginning of deportations from the Warsaw Ghetto to the new extermination camp, Treblinka. Also, beginning of the deportation of Belgian Jews to Auschwitz.

July 23, 1942 - Treblinka extermination camp opened in occupied Poland, east of Warsaw. The camp is fitted with two buildings containing 10 gas chambers, each holding 200 persons. Carbon monoxide gas is piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but Zyklon-B will later be substituted. Bodies are burned in open pits.

In Aug - The start of deportations of Croatian Jews to Auschwitz.

Aug 23, 1942 - Beginning of German Army attack on Stalingrad.

Aug 26-28 - 7,000 Jews arrested in unoccupied France.

Sept 9, 1942 - Open pit burning of bodies begins at Auschwitz in place of burial. The decision is made to dig up and burn those already buried, 107,000 corpses, to prevent fouling of ground water.

Sept 18, 1942 - Reduction of food rations for Jews in Germany.

Sept 26, 1942 - SS begins cashing in possessions and valuables of Jews from Auschwitz and Majdanek. German banknotes are sent to the Reichs Bank. Foreign currency, gold, jewels and other valuables are sent to SS Headquarters of the Economic Administration. Watches, clocks and pens are distributed to troops at the front. Clothing is distributed to German families. By Feb. 1943, over 800 boxcars of confiscated goods will have left Auschwitz.

Oct 5, 1942 - Himmler orders all Jews in concentration camps in Germany to be sent to Auschwitz and Majdanek.

Oct 5, 1942 - A German eyewitness observes SS mass murder.

Oct 14, 1942 - Mass killing of Jews from Mizocz Ghetto in the Ukraine.

Oct 22, 1942 - SS put down a revolt at Sachsenhausen by a group of Jews about to be sent to Auschwitz.

Oct 25, 1942 - Deportations of Jews from Norway to Auschwitz begin.

Oct 28, 1942 - The first transport from Theresienstadt arrives at Auschwitz.

In Nov - The mass killing of 170,000 Jews in the area of Bialystok.

Dec 10, 1942 - The first transport of Jews from Germany arrives at Auschwitz.

In Dec - Exterminations at Belzec cease after an estimated 600,000 Jews have been murdered. The camp is then dismantled, plowed over and planted.

Dec 17, 1942 - British Foreign Secretary Eden tells the British House of Commons the Nazis are "now carrying into effect Hitler's oft repeated intention to exterminate the Jewish people of Europe." U.S. declares those crimes will be avenged.

Dec 28, 1942 - Sterilization experiments on women at Birkenau begin.

Map of Concentration/Death Camps

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In 1943 - The number of Jews killed by SS Einsatzgruppen passes one million. Nazis then use special units of slave laborers to dig up and burn the bodies to remove all traces.

Jan 18, 1943 - First resistance by Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto.

Jan 29, 1943 - Nazis order all Gypsies arrested and sent to extermination camps.

Jan 30, 1943 - Ernst Kaltenbrunner succeeds Heydrich as head of RSHA.

In Feb - The Romanian government proposes to the Allies the transfer of 70,000 Jews to Palestine, but receives no response from Britain or the U.S.

In Feb - Greek Jews are ordered into ghettos.

Feb 2, 1943 - Germans surrender at Stalingrad in the first big defeat of Hitler's armies.

Feb 27, 1943 - Jews working in Berlin armaments industry are sent to Auschwitz.

In March - The start of deportations of Jews from Greece to Auschwitz, lasting until August, totaling 49,900 persons.

March 1, 1943 - In New York, American Jews hold a mass rally at Madison Square Garden to pressure the U.S. government into helping the Jews of Europe

March 14, 1943 - The Krakow Ghetto is liquidated.

March 17, 1943 - Bulgaria states opposition to deportation of its Jews.

March 22, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory IV opens at Auschwitz.

March 31, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory II opens at Auschwitz.

April 4, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory V opens at Auschwitz.

April 9, 1943 - Exterminations at Chelmno cease. The camp will be reactivated in the spring of 1944 to liquidate ghettos. In all, Chelmno will total 300,000 deaths.

April 19-30 - The Bermuda Conference occurs as representatives from the U.S. and Britain discuss the problem of refugees from Nazi-occupied countries, but results in inaction concerning the plight of the Jews.

April 19, 1943 - Waffen SS attacks Jewish Resistance in Warsaw Ghetto.

In May - SS Dr. Josef Mengele arrives at Auschwitz.

May 13, 1943 - German and Italian troops in North Africa surrender to Allies.

May 19, 1943 - Nazis declare Berlin to be Judenfrei (cleansed of Jews).

June 11, 1943 - Himmler orders liquidation of all Jewish ghettos in occupied Poland.

June 25, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory III opens at Auschwitz. With its completion, the four new crematories at Auschwitz have a daily capacity of 4,756 bodies.

July 9/10 - Allies land in Sicily.

Aug 2, 1943 - Two hundred Jews escape from Treblinka extermination camp during a revolt. Nazis then hunt them down one by one.

Aug 16, 1943 - The Bialystok Ghetto is liquidated.

In Aug - Exterminations cease at Treblinka, after an estimated 870,000 deaths.

In Sept - The Vilna and Minsk Ghettos are liquidated.

Sept 11, 1943 - Germans occupy Rome, after occupying northern and central Italy, containing in all about 35,000 Jews.

Sept 11, 1943 - Beginning of Jewish family transports from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz.

In Oct - The Danish Underground helps transport 7,220 Danish Jews to safety in Sweden by sea.

Oct 4 - Himmler talks openly about the Final Solution at Posen.

Oct 14, 1943 - Massive escape from Sobibor as Jews and Soviet POWs break out, with 300 making it safely into nearby woods. Of those 300, fifty will survive. Exterminations then cease at Sobibor, after over 250,000 deaths. All traces of the death camp are then removed and trees are planted.

Oct 16, 1943 - Jews in Rome rounded up, with over 1,000 sent to Auschwitz.

In Nov - The Riga Ghetto is liquidated.

In Nov - The U.S. Congress holds hearings regarding the U.S. State Department's inaction regarding European Jews, despite mounting reports of mass extermination.

Nov 3, 1943 - Nazis carry out Operation Harvest Festival in occupied Poland, killing 42,000 Jews.

Nov 4, 1943 - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "It is actually true that the Jews have, so to speak, disappeared from Europe and that the Jewish 'Reservoir of the East' from which the Jewish pestilence has for centuries beset the peoples of Europe has ceased to exist. But the Führer of the German people at the beginning of the war prophesied what has now come to pass."

Nov 11, 1943 - Auschwitz Kommandant Höss is promoted to chief inspector of concentration camps. The new kommandant, Liebehenschel, then divides up the vast Auschwitz complex of over 30 sub-camps into three main sections.

Dec 2, 1943 - The first transport of Jews from Vienna arrives at Auschwitz.

Dec 16, 1943 - The chief surgeon at Auschwitz reports that 106 castration operations have been performed.

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Jan 3, 1944 - Soviet troops reach former Polish border.

Jan 24, 1944 - In response to political pressure to help Jews under Nazi control, Roosevelt creates the War Refugee Board.

Jan 25, 1944 - Diary entry by Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, concerning the fate of 2.5 million Jews originally under his jurisdiction - "At the present time we still have in the General Government perhaps 100,000 Jews."

In Feb - Eichmann visits Auschwitz.

March 19, 1944 - Nazis occupy Hungary (Jewish pop. 725,000). Eichmann arrives with Gestapo "Special Section Commandos."

March 24, 1944 - President Roosevelt issues a statement condemning German and Japanese ongoing "crimes against humanity."

April 5, 1944 - A Jewish inmate, Siegfried Lederer, escapes from Auschwitz-Birkenau and makes it safely to Czechoslovakia. He then warns the Elders of the Council at Theresienstadt about Auschwitz.

April 6, 1944 - Nazis raid a French home for Jewish children.

April 7, 1944 - Two Jewish inmates escape from Auschwitz-Birkenau and make it safely to Czechoslovakia. One of them, Rudolf Vrba, submits a report to the Papal Nuncio in Slovakia which is forwarded to the Vatican, received there in mid June.

April 14, 1944 - First transports of Jews from Athens to Auschwitz, totaling 5,200 persons.

In May - Himmler's agents secretly propose to the western Allies to trade Jews for trucks, other commodities or money.

May 8, 1944 - Rudolf Höss returns to Auschwitz, ordered by Himmler to oversee the extermination of Hungarian Jews.

May 15, 1944 - Beginning of deportation of Jews from Hungary to Auschwitz.

May 16, 1944 - Jews from Hungary arrive at Auschwitz. Eichmann arrives to personally oversee and speed up the extermination process. By May 24, an estimated 100,000 have been gassed. Between May 16 and May 31, the SS report collecting 88 pounds of gold and white metal from the teeth of those gassed. By the end of June, 381,661 persons - half of the Jews in Hungary - arrive at Auschwitz.

In June - A Red Cross delegation visits Theresienstadt after the Nazis have carefully prepared the camp and the Jewish inmates, resulting in a favorable report.

June 6, 1944 - D-Day: Allied landings in Normandy.

June 12, 1944 - Rosenberg orders Hay Action the kidnapping of 40,000 Polish children aged ten to fourteen for slave labor in the Reich.

Summer - Auschwitz-Birkenau records its highest-ever daily number of persons gassed and burned at just over 9,000. Six huge pits are used to burn bodies, as the number exceeds the capacity of the crematories.

In July - Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg arrives in Budapest, Hungary, and proceeds to save nearly 33,000 Jews by issuing diplomatic papers and establishing 'safe houses.'

July 24, 1944 - Soviet troops liberate first concentration camp at Majdanek where over 360,000 had been murdered.

Aug 4, 1944 - Anne Frank and family arrested by Gestapo in Amsterdam, then sent to Auschwitz. Anne and her sister Margot are later sent to Bergen-Belsen where Anne dies of typhus on March 15, 1945.

Aug 6, 1944 - The last Jewish ghetto in Poland, Lodz, is liquidated with 60,000 Jews sent to Auschwitz.

Oct 7, 1944 - A revolt by Sonderkommando (Jewish slave laborers) at Auschwitz-Birkenau results in complete destruction of Crematory IV.

Oct 15, 1944 - Nazis seize control of the Hungarian puppet government, then resume deporting Jews, which had temporarily ceased due to international political pressure to stop Jewish persecutions.

Oct 17, 1944 - Eichmann arrives in Hungary.

Oct 28, 1944 - The last transport of Jews to be gassed, 2,000 from Theresienstadt, arrives at Auschwitz.

Oct 30, 1944 - Last use of gas chambers at Auschwitz.

Nov 8, 1944 - Nazis force 25,000 Jews to walk over 100 miles in rain and snow from Budapest to the Austrian border, followed by a second forced march of 50,000 persons, ending at Mauthausen.

Nov 25, 1944 - Himmler orders the destruction of the crematories at Auschwitz.

Late 1944 - Oskar Schindler saves 1200 Jews by moving them from Plaszow labor camp to his hometown of Brunnlitz.

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In 1945 - As the Allies advance, the Nazis conduct death marches of concentration camp inmates away from outlying areas.

Jan 6, 1945 - Soviets liberate Budapest, freeing over 80,000 Jews.

Jan 14, 1945 - Invasion of eastern Germany by Soviet troops.

Jan 17, 1945 - Liberation of Warsaw by the Soviets.

Jan 18, 1945 - Nazis evacuate 66,000 from Auschwitz.

Jan 27, 1945 - Soviet troops liberate Auschwitz. By this time, an estimated 2,000,000 persons, including 1,500,000 Jews, have been murdered there.

April 4, 1945 - Ohrdruf camp is liberated, later visited by General Eisenhower.

April 10, 1945 - Allies liberate Buchenwald.

April 15, 1945 - Approximately 40,000 prisoners freed at Bergen-Belsen by the British, who report "both inside and outside the huts was a carpet of dead bodies, human excreta, rags and filth."

April 23, 1945 - Berlin reached by Soviet troops.

April 29, 1945 - U.S. 7th Army liberates Dachau.

April 30, 1945 - Hitler commits suicide in his Berlin bunker.

April 30, 1945 - Americans free 33,000 inmates from concentration camps.

May 2, 1945 - Theresienstadt taken over by the Red Cross.

May 5, 1945 - Mauthausen liberated.

May 7, 1945 - Unconditional German surrender signed by Gen. Jodl at Reims.

May 9, 1945 - Hermann Göring captured by members of U.S. 7th Army.

May 23, 1945 - SS Reichsführer Himmler commits suicide.

Nov 20, 1945 - Opening of the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal.

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March 11, 1946 - Former Auschwitz Kommandant Höss, posing as a farm worker, is arrested by the British. He testifies at Nuremberg, then is later tried in Warsaw, found guilty and hanged at Auschwitz, April 16, 1947, near Crematory I. "History will mark me as the greatest mass murderer of all time," Höss writes while in prison, along with his memoirs about Auschwitz.

Oct 16, 1946 - Göring commits suicide two hours before the scheduled execution of the first group of major Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg. During his imprisonment, a (now repentant) Hans Frank states, "A thousand years will pass and the guilt of Germany will not be erased." Frank and the others are hanged and the bodies are brought to Dachau and burned (the final use of the crematories there) with the ashes then scattered into a river.

Dec 9, 1946 - 23 former SS doctors and scientists go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal at Nuremberg. Sixteen are found guilty, with 7 being hanged.

1947

Sept 15, 1947 - Twenty one former SS Einsatz leaders go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal in Nuremberg. Fourteen are sentenced to death, with only 4 (the group commanders) actually being executed. The other death sentences are commuted.

1960

May 11, 1960 - Adolf Eichmann is captured in Argentina by Israeli secret service.

1961

April 11 - August 14 - Eichmann on trial in Jerusalem for crimes against the Jewish people, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Found guilty and hanged at Ramleh on May 31, 1962. A fellow Nazi reported Eichmann once said "he would leap laughing into the grave because the feeling that he had five million people on his conscience would be for him a source of extraordinary satisfaction."

I wanna burst into laughter reading the comments from many of you.

1. There is someone who says THEY have no mercy at all. This is not unusual and it is prevalent among people of Tun's faith.

2. There is someone who referred Hanan to your Koran. Why not you, this someone, take a look at what the Jewish holy book and the Bible says about Jews? Those books are written way earlier than your book, but alas, I know what you have to say about them--that they are perverted. Well, evidences show that they were not, but, yeah, those are archaeological evidences that don't appeal to amateurs. So, "perversion" is still your best verbal weapon.

3. Someone claims that Anti-Semitism is, sort of, intended to mislead people and is a lie. For your knowledge, Islamophobia is. People of your faith can talk bad and condemn others vehemently, but if people not belonging to your faith condemn and talk about you/your faith the way you talk about them you know clearly what will happen. Unity in Malaysian society is crippled by exactly this sort of thing.

4. Just prior to this post it is said that the Jew want the land of Palestine because whoever possesses Jerusalem is the King. This city was built by the Jews before being expelled by the Romans. After that, people of your faith come and built the Al-Aqsa right on top of the mount where Solomon's Temple stands. It's fair that Jews would like to return to a place where they have been expelled by outside force. Now, it is more likely that it is you who believes and desires to be the King of the world by seizing Jerusalem and taking into possession.

Don't be upset that some Malaysian speaks in favor of Israel or equivalently against you who outnumber this small group of people. The firing of rockets into civilian areas, the suicide bombing targeting innocent people, the slaughtering of foreign aid workers, the public declaration that a particular ethnic group is to be wiped off the face of the Earth, etc. simply point to the fact that people of your faith are just killers, just as those who you purport are the (only) perpetrators.

By the way, Tun M, had the Empire of the Rising Sun not did what they were doing in the 1940's, the atomic bombs wouldn't have been needed; it would not have been invented in fact. Why put all blames of aggression on America or Zionism?

1933

Jan 30, 1933 - Adolf Hitler is appointed Chancellor of Germany a nation with a Jewish population of 566,000.

Feb 22, 1933 - 40,000 SA and SS men are sworn in as auxiliary police.

Feb 27, 1933 - Nazis burn Reichstag building to create crisis atmosphere.

Feb 28, 1933 - Emergency powers granted to Hitler as a result of the Reichstag fire.

March 22, 1933 - Nazis open Dachau concentration camp near Munich, to be followed by Buchenwald near Weimar in central Germany, Sachsenhausen near Berlin in northern Germany, and Ravensbrück for women.

March 24, 1933 - German Parliament passes Enabling Act giving Hitler dictatorial powers.

See also - The Rise of Hitler - from Unknown to Dictator of Germany

April 1, 1933 - Nazis stage boycott of Jewish shops and businesses.

April 11, 1933 - Nazis issue a decree defining a non-Aryan as "anyone descended from non-Aryan, especially Jewish, parents or grandparents. One parent or grandparent classifies the descendant as non-Aryan...especially if one parent or grandparent was of the Jewish faith."

April 26, 1933 - The Gestapo is born, created by Hermann Göring in the German state of Prussia.

May 10, 1933 - Burning of books in Berlin and throughout Germany.

July 14, 1933 - Nazi Party is declared the only legal party in Germany; Also, Nazis pass Law to strip Jewish immigrants from Poland of their German citizenship.

In July - Nazis pass law allowing for forced sterilization of those found by a Hereditary Health Court to have genetic defects.

In Sept - Nazis establish Reich Chamber of Culture, then exclude Jews from the Arts.

Sept 29, 1933 - Nazis prohibit Jews from owning land.

Oct 4, 1933 - Jews are prohibited from being newspaper editors.

Nov 24, 1933 - Nazis pass a Law against Habitual and Dangerous Criminals, which allows beggars, the homeless, alcoholics and the unemployed to be sent to concentration camps.

1934

Jan 24, 1934 - Jews are banned from the German Labor Front.

May 17, 1934 - Jews not allowed national health insurance.

June 30, 1934 - The Night of Long Knives occurs as Hitler, Göring and Himmler conduct a purge of the SA (storm trooper) leadership.

July 20, 1934 - The SS (Schutzstaffel) is made an independent organization from the SA.

July 22, 1934 - Jews are prohibited from getting legal qualifications.

Aug 2, 1934 - German President von Hindenburg dies. Hitler becomes Führer.

Aug 19, 1934 - Hitler receives a 90 percent 'Yes' vote from German voters approving his new powers.

1935

May 21, 1935 - Nazis ban Jews from serving in the military.

June 26, 1935 - Nazis pass law allowing forced abortions on women to prevent them from passing on hereditary diseases.

Aug 6, 1935 - Nazis force Jewish performers/artists to join Jewish Cultural Unions.

Sept 15, 1935 - Nuremberg Race Laws against Jews decreed.

1936

Feb 10, 1936 - The German Gestapo is placed above the law.

In March - SS Deathshead division is established to guard concentration camps.

March 7, 1936 - Nazis occupy the Rhineland.

June 17, 1936 - Heinrich Himmler is appointed chief of the German Police.

Aug 1, 1936 - Olympic games begin in Berlin. Hitler and top Nazis seek to gain legitimacy through favorable public opinion from foreign visitors and thus temporarily refrain from actions against Jews.

In Aug - Nazis set up an Office for Combating Homosexuality and Abortions (by healthy women).

1937

In Jan - Jews are banned from many professional occupations including teaching Germans, and from being accountants or dentists. They are also denied tax reductions and child allowances.

Nov 8, 1937 - 'Eternal Jew' travelling exhibition opens in Munich.

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March 12/13, 1938 - Nazi troops enter Austria, which has a population of 200,000 Jews, mainly living in Vienna. Hitler announces Anschluss (union) with Austria.

In March - After the Anschluss, the SS is placed in charge of Jewish affairs in Austria with Adolf Eichmann establishing an Office for Jewish Emigration in Vienna. Himmler then establishes Mauthausen concentration camp near Linz.

April 22, 1938 - Nazis prohibit Aryan 'front-ownership' of Jewish businesses.

April 26, 1938 - Nazis order Jews to register wealth and property.

June 14, 1938 - Nazis order Jewish owned businesses to register.

In July - At Evian, France, the U.S. convenes a League of Nations conference with delegates from 32 countries to consider helping Jews fleeing Hitler, but results in inaction as no country will accept them.

July 6, 1938 - Nazis prohibited Jews from trading and providing a variety of specified commercial services.

July 23, 1938 - Nazis order Jews over age 15 to apply for identity cards from the police, to be shown on demand to any police officer.

July 25, 1938 - Jewish doctors prohibited by law from practicing medicine.

Aug 11, 1938 - Nazis destroy the synagogue in Nuremberg.

Aug 17, 1938 - Nazis require Jewish women to add Sarah and men to add Israel to their names on all legal documents including passports.

Sept 27, 1938 - Jews are prohibited from all legal practices.

Oct 5, 1938 - Law requires Jewish passports to be stamped with a large red "J."

Oct 15, 1938 - Nazi troops occupy the Sudetenland.

Oct 28, 1938 - Nazis arrest 17,000 Jews of Polish nationality living in Germany, then expel them back to Poland which refuses them entry, leaving them in 'no-man's land' near the Polish border for several months.

Nov 7, 1938 - Ernst vom Rath, third secretary in the German Embassy in Paris, is shot and mortally wounded by Herschel Grynszpan, the 17 year old son of one of the deported Polish Jews. Rath dies on November 9, precipitating Kristallnacht.

Nov 9/10 - Kristallnacht - The Night of Broken Glass.

Nov 12, 1938 - Nazis fine Jews one billion marks for damages related to Kristallnacht.

Nov 15, 1938 - Jewish pupils are expelled from all non-Jewish German schools.

Dec 3, 1938 - Law for compulsory Aryanization of all Jewish businesses.

Dec 14, 1938 - Hermann Göring takes charge of resolving the "Jewish Question."

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Jan 24, 1939 - SS leader Reinhard Heydrich is ordered by Göring to speed up emigration of Jews.

Jan 30, 1939 - Hitler threatens Jews during Reichstag speech.

Feb 21, 1939 - Nazis force Jews to hand over all gold and silver items.

March 15/16 - Nazi troops seize Czechoslovakia (Jewish pop. 350,000).

April 19, 1939 - Slovakia passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.

April 30, 1939 - Jews lose rights as tenants and are relocated into Jewish houses.

In May - The St. Louis, a ship crowded with 930 Jewish refugees, is turned away by Cuba, the United States and other countries and returns to Europe.

July 4, 1939 - German Jews denied the right to hold government jobs.

July 21, 1939 - Adolf Eichmann is appointed director of the Prague Office of Jewish Emigration.

Sept 1, 1939 - Nazis invade Poland (Jewish pop. 3.35 million, the largest in Europe). Beginning of SS activity in Poland.

See also - World War Two in Europe Timeline

Sept 1, 1939 - Jews in Germany are forbidden to be outdoors after 8 p.m. in winter and 9 p.m. in summer.

Sept 3, 1939 - England and France declare war on Germany.

Sept 4, 1939 - Warsaw is cut off by the German Army.

Sept 17, 1939 - Soviet troops invade eastern Poland.

Sept 21, 1939 - Heydrich issues instructions to SS Einsatzgruppen (special action squads) in Poland regarding treatment of Jews, stating they are to be gathered into ghettos near railroads for the future "final goal." He also orders a census and the establishment of Jewish administrative councils within the ghettos to implement Nazi policies and decrees.

Sept 23, 1939 - German Jews are forbidden to own wireless (radio) sets.

Sept 27, 1939 - Warsaw surrenders; Heydrich becomes leader of RSHA.

Sept 29, 1939 - Nazis and Soviets divide up Poland. Over two million Jews reside in Nazi controlled areas, leaving 1.3 million in the Soviet area.

In Sept - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "The Jewish people ought to be exterminated root and branch. Then the plague of pests would have disappeared in Poland at one stroke."

In Oct - Nazis begin euthanasia on sick and disabled in Germany.

Oct 6, 1939 - Proclamation by Hitler on the isolation of Jews.

Oct 12, 1939 - Evacuation of Jews from Vienna.

Oct 12, 1939 - Hans Frank appointed Nazi Gauleiter (governor) of Poland.

Oct 26, 1939 - Forced labor decree issued for Polish Jews aged 14 to 60.

Nov 23, 1939 - Yellow stars required to be worn by Polish Jews over age 10.

In Dec - Adolf Eichmann takes over section IV B4 of the Gestapo dealing solely with Jewish affairs and evacuations.

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Jan 25, 1940 - Nazis choose the town of Oswiecim (Auschwitz) in Poland near Krakow as site of new concentration camp.

In Jan - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "...The time is near when a machine will go into motion which is going to prepare a grave for the world's criminal - Judah - from which there will be no resurrection."

Feb 12, 1940 - First deportation of German Jews into occupied Poland.

April 9, 1940 - Nazis invade Denmark (Jewish pop. 8,000) and Norway (Jewish pop. 2,000).

April 30, 1940 - The Lodz Ghetto in occupied Poland is sealed off from the outside world with 230,000 Jews locked inside.

May 1, 1940 - Rudolf Höss is chosen to be kommandant of Auschwitz.

May 10, 1940 - Nazis invade France (Jewish pop. 350,000), Belgium (Jewish pop. 65,000), Holland (Jewish pop. 140,000), and Luxembourg (Jewish pop. 3,500).

June 14, 1940 - Paris is occupied by the Nazis.

June 22, 1940 - France signs an armistice with Hitler.

In July - Eichmann's Madagascar Plan presented, proposing to deport all European Jews to the island of Madagascar, off the coast of east Africa.

July 17, 1940 - The first anti-Jewish measures are taken in Vichy France.

Aug 8, 1940 - Romania introduces anti-Jewish measures restricting education and employment, then later begins "Romanianization" of Jewish businesses.

Sept 27, 1940 - Tripartite (Axis) Pact signed by Germany, Italy and Japan.

Oct 3, 1940 - Vichy France passes its own version of the Nuremberg Laws.

Oct 7, 1940 - Nazis invade Romania (Jewish pop. 34,000).

Oct 22, 1940 - Deportation of 29,000 German Jews from Baden, the Saar, and Alsace-Lorraine into Vichy France.

In Nov - Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia become Nazi Allies.

In Nov - The Krakow Ghetto is sealed off containing 70,000 Jews.

Nov 15, 1940 - The Warsaw Ghetto, containing over 400,000 Jews, is sealed off.

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In 1941 - Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states, "I ask nothing of the Jews except that they should disappear."

In Jan - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "Now judgment has begun and it will reach its conclusion only when knowledge of the Jews has been erased from the earth."

In Jan - A pogrom in Romania results in over 2,000 Jews killed.

Feb 22, 1941 - 430 Jewish hostages are deported from Amsterdam after a Dutch Nazi is killed by Jews.

In March - Hitler's Commissar Order authorizes execution of anyone suspected of being a Communist official in territories about to be seized from the Soviets.

March 1, 1941 - Himmler makes his first visit to Auschwitz, during which he orders Kommandant Höss to begin massive expansion, including a new compound to be built at nearby Birkenau that can hold 100,000 prisoners.

March 2, 1941 - Nazis occupy Bulgaria (Jewish pop. 50,000).

March 7, 1941 - German Jews ordered into forced labor.

March 26, 1941 - The German Army High Command gives approval to RSHA and Heydrich on the tasks of SS murder squads (Einsatzgruppen) in occupied Poland.

March 29, 1941 - A 'Commissariat' for Jewish Affairs is set up in Vichy France.

April 6, 1941 - Nazis invade Yugoslavia (Jewish pop. 75,000) and Greece (Jewish pop. 77,000).

May 14, 1941 - 3,600 Jews arrested in Paris.

May 16, 1941 - French Marshal Petain issues a radio broadcast approving collaboration with Hitler.

June 22, 1941 - Nazis invade the Soviet Union (Jewish pop. 3 million).

June 29/30 - Romanian troops conduct a pogrom against Jews in the town of Jassy, killing 10,000.

Summer - Himmler summons Auschwitz Kommandant Höss to Berlin and tells him, "The Führer has ordered the Final Solution of the Jewish question. We, the SS, have to carry out this order...I have therefore chosen Auschwitz for this purpose."

In July - As the German Army advances, SS Einsatzgruppen follow along and conduct mass murder of Jews in seized lands.

In July - Ghettos established at Kovno, Minsk, Vitebsk and Zhitomer. Also in July, the government of Vichy France seizes Jewish owned property.

July 17, 1941 - Nazi racial 'philosopher' Alfred Rosenberg is appointed Reich Minister for the Eastern Occupied Territories to administer territories seized from the Soviet Union.

July 21, 1941 - In occupied Poland near Lublin, Majdanek concentration camp becomes operational.

July 25/26 - 3,800 Jews killed during a pogrom by Lithuanians in Kovno.

July 31, 1941 - Göring instructs Heydrich to prepare for Final Solution.

In Aug - Jews in Romania forced into Transnistria. By December, 70,000 perish.

In Aug - Ghettos established at Bialystok and Lvov.

Aug 26, 1941 - The Hungarian Army rounds up 18,000 Jews at Kamenets-Podolsk.

Sept 3, 1941 - The first test use of Zyklon-B gas at Auschwitz.

Sept 1, 1941 - German Jews ordered to wear yellow stars.

Sept 6, 1941 - The Vilna Ghetto is established containing 40,000 Jews.

Sept 17, 1941 - Beginning of general deportation of German Jews.

Sept 19, 1941 - Nazis take Kiev.

Sept 27/28 - 23,000 Jews killed at Kamenets-Podolsk, in the Ukraine.

Sept 29/30 - SS Einsatzgruppen murder 33,771 Jews at Babi Yar near Kiev.

In Oct - 35,000 Jews from Odessa shot.

Oct 2, 1941 - Beginning of the German Army drive on Moscow.

Oct 23, 1941 - Nazis forbid emigration of Jews from the Reich.

In Nov - SS Einsatzgruppe B reports a tally of 45,476 Jews killed.

Nov 24, 1941 - Theresienstadt Ghetto is established near Prague, Czechoslovakia. The Nazis will use it as a model ghetto for propaganda purposes.

Nov 30, 1941 - Near Riga, a mass shooting of Latvian and German Jews.

Dec 7, 1941 - Japanese attack United States at Pearl Harbor. The next day the U.S. and Britain declare war on Japan.

Dec 8, 1941 - In occupied Poland, near Lodz, Chelmno extermination camp becomes operational. Jews taken there are placed in mobile gas vans and driven to a burial place while carbon monoxide from the engine exhaust is fed into the sealed rear compartment, killing them. The first gassing victims include 5,000 Gypsies who had been deported from the Reich to Lodz.

Dec 11, 1941 - Hitler declares war on the United States. Roosevelt then declares war on Germany saying, "Never before has there been a greater challenge to life, liberty and civilization." The U.S.A. then enters the war in Europe and will concentrate nearly 90 percent of its military resources to defeat Hitler.

Dec 12, 1941 - The ship "Struma" leaves Romania for Palestine carrying 769 Jews but is later denied permission by British authorities to allow the passengers to disembark. In Feb. 1942, it sails back into the Black Sea where it is intercepted by a Soviet submarine and sunk as an "enemy target."

Dec 16, 1941 - During a cabinet meeting, Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, states - "Gentlemen, I must ask you to rid yourselves of all feeling of pity. We must annihilate the Jews wherever we find them and wherever it is possible in order to maintain there the structure of the Reich as a whole..."

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In Jan - Mass killings of Jews using Zyklon-B begin at Auschwitz-Birkenau in Bunker I (the red farmhouse) in Birkenau with the bodies being buried in mass graves in a nearby meadow.

Jan 20, 1942 - Wannsee Conference to coordinate the "Final Solution."

Jan 31, 1942 - SS Einsatzgruppe A reports a tally of 229,052 Jews killed.

In March - In occupied Poland, Belzec extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with permanent gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.

March 17, 1942 - The deportation of Jews from Lublin to Belzec.

March 24, 1942 - The start of deportation of Slovak Jews to Auschwitz.

March 27, 1942 - The start of deportation of French Jews to Auschwitz.

March 28, 1942 - Fritz Sauckel named Chief of Manpower to expedite recruitment of slave labor.

March 30, 1942 - First trainloads of Jews from Paris arrive at Auschwitz.

In April - First transports of Jews arrive at Majdanek.

April 20, 1942 - German Jews are banned from using public transportation.

In May - In occupied Poland, Sobibor extermination camp becomes operational. The camp is fitted with three gas chambers using carbon monoxide piped in from engines, but will later substitute Zyklon-B.

May 18, 1942 - The New York Times reports on an inside page that Nazis have machine-gunned over 100,000 Jews in the Baltic states, 100,000 in Poland and twice as many in western Russia.

May 27, 1942 - SS leader Heydrich is mortally wounded by Czech Underground agents.

In June - Gas vans used in Riga.

June 1, 1942 - Jews in France, Holland, Belgium, Croatia, Slovakia, Romania ordered to wear yellow stars.

June 4, 1942 - Heydrich dies of his wounds.

June 5, 1942 - SS report 97,000 persons have been "processed" in mobile gas vans.

June 10, 1942 - Nazis liquidate Lidice in retaliation for Heydrich's death.

June 11, 1942 - Eichmann meets with representatives from France, Belgium and Holland to coordinate deportation plans for Jews.

June 30, 1942 - At Auschwitz, a second gas chamber, Bunker II (the white farmhouse), is made operational at Birkenau due to the number of Jews arriving.

June 30 and July 2 - The New York Times reports via the London Daily Telegraph that over 1,000,000 Jews have already been killed by Nazis.

Summer - Swiss representatives of the World Jewish Congress receive information from a German industrialist regarding the Nazi plan to exterminate the Jews. They then pass the information on to London and Washington.

July 2, 1942 - Jews from Berlin sent to Theresienstadt.

July 7, 1942 - Himmler grants permission for sterilization experiments at Auschwitz.

July 14, 1942 - Beginning of deportation of Dutch Jews to Auschwitz.

July 16/17 - 12,887 Jews of Paris are rounded up and sent to Drancy Internment Camp located outside the city. A total of approximately 74,000 Jews, including 11,000 children, will eventually be transported from Drancy to Auschwitz, Majdanek and Sobibor.

July 17/18 - Himmler visits Auschwitz-Birkenau for two days, inspecting all ongoing construction and expansion, then observes the extermination process from start to finish as two trainloads of Jews arrive from Holland. Kommandant Höss is then promoted. Construction includes four large gas chamber/crematories.

July 19, 1942 - Himmler orders Operation Reinhard, mass deportations of Jews in Poland to extermination camps.

July 22, 1942 - Beginning of deportations from the Warsaw Ghetto to the new extermination camp, Treblinka. Also, beginning of the deportation of Belgian Jews to Auschwitz.

July 23, 1942 - Treblinka extermination camp opened in occupied Poland, east of Warsaw. The camp is fitted with two buildings containing 10 gas chambers, each holding 200 persons. Carbon monoxide gas is piped in from engines placed outside the chamber, but Zyklon-B will later be substituted. Bodies are burned in open pits.

In Aug - The start of deportations of Croatian Jews to Auschwitz.

Aug 23, 1942 - Beginning of German Army attack on Stalingrad.

Aug 26-28 - 7,000 Jews arrested in unoccupied France.

Sept 9, 1942 - Open pit burning of bodies begins at Auschwitz in place of burial. The decision is made to dig up and burn those already buried, 107,000 corpses, to prevent fouling of ground water.

Sept 18, 1942 - Reduction of food rations for Jews in Germany.

Sept 26, 1942 - SS begins cashing in possessions and valuables of Jews from Auschwitz and Majdanek. German banknotes are sent to the Reichs Bank. Foreign currency, gold, jewels and other valuables are sent to SS Headquarters of the Economic Administration. Watches, clocks and pens are distributed to troops at the front. Clothing is distributed to German families. By Feb. 1943, over 800 boxcars of confiscated goods will have left Auschwitz.

Oct 5, 1942 - Himmler orders all Jews in concentration camps in Germany to be sent to Auschwitz and Majdanek.

Oct 5, 1942 - A German eyewitness observes SS mass murder.

Oct 14, 1942 - Mass killing of Jews from Mizocz Ghetto in the Ukraine.

Oct 22, 1942 - SS put down a revolt at Sachsenhausen by a group of Jews about to be sent to Auschwitz.

Oct 25, 1942 - Deportations of Jews from Norway to Auschwitz begin.

Oct 28, 1942 - The first transport from Theresienstadt arrives at Auschwitz.

In Nov - The mass killing of 170,000 Jews in the area of Bialystok.

Dec 10, 1942 - The first transport of Jews from Germany arrives at Auschwitz.

In Dec - Exterminations at Belzec cease after an estimated 600,000 Jews have been murdered. The camp is then dismantled, plowed over and planted.

Dec 17, 1942 - British Foreign Secretary Eden tells the British House of Commons the Nazis are "now carrying into effect Hitler's oft repeated intention to exterminate the Jewish people of Europe." U.S. declares those crimes will be avenged.

Dec 28, 1942 - Sterilization experiments on women at Birkenau begin.

Map of Concentration/Death Camps

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In 1943 - The number of Jews killed by SS Einsatzgruppen passes one million. Nazis then use special units of slave laborers to dig up and burn the bodies to remove all traces.

Jan 18, 1943 - First resistance by Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto.

Jan 29, 1943 - Nazis order all Gypsies arrested and sent to extermination camps.

Jan 30, 1943 - Ernst Kaltenbrunner succeeds Heydrich as head of RSHA.

In Feb - The Romanian government proposes to the Allies the transfer of 70,000 Jews to Palestine, but receives no response from Britain or the U.S.

In Feb - Greek Jews are ordered into ghettos.

Feb 2, 1943 - Germans surrender at Stalingrad in the first big defeat of Hitler's armies.

Feb 27, 1943 - Jews working in Berlin armaments industry are sent to Auschwitz.

In March - The start of deportations of Jews from Greece to Auschwitz, lasting until August, totaling 49,900 persons.

March 1, 1943 - In New York, American Jews hold a mass rally at Madison Square Garden to pressure the U.S. government into helping the Jews of Europe

March 14, 1943 - The Krakow Ghetto is liquidated.

March 17, 1943 - Bulgaria states opposition to deportation of its Jews.

March 22, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory IV opens at Auschwitz.

March 31, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory II opens at Auschwitz.

April 4, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory V opens at Auschwitz.

April 9, 1943 - Exterminations at Chelmno cease. The camp will be reactivated in the spring of 1944 to liquidate ghettos. In all, Chelmno will total 300,000 deaths.

April 19-30 - The Bermuda Conference occurs as representatives from the U.S. and Britain discuss the problem of refugees from Nazi-occupied countries, but results in inaction concerning the plight of the Jews.

April 19, 1943 - Waffen SS attacks Jewish Resistance in Warsaw Ghetto.

In May - SS Dr. Josef Mengele arrives at Auschwitz.

May 13, 1943 - German and Italian troops in North Africa surrender to Allies.

May 19, 1943 - Nazis declare Berlin to be Judenfrei (cleansed of Jews).

June 11, 1943 - Himmler orders liquidation of all Jewish ghettos in occupied Poland.

June 25, 1943 - Newly built gas chamber/crematory III opens at Auschwitz. With its completion, the four new crematories at Auschwitz have a daily capacity of 4,756 bodies.

July 9/10 - Allies land in Sicily.

Aug 2, 1943 - Two hundred Jews escape from Treblinka extermination camp during a revolt. Nazis then hunt them down one by one.

Aug 16, 1943 - The Bialystok Ghetto is liquidated.

In Aug - Exterminations cease at Treblinka, after an estimated 870,000 deaths.

In Sept - The Vilna and Minsk Ghettos are liquidated.

Sept 11, 1943 - Germans occupy Rome, after occupying northern and central Italy, containing in all about 35,000 Jews.

Sept 11, 1943 - Beginning of Jewish family transports from Theresienstadt to Auschwitz.

In Oct - The Danish Underground helps transport 7,220 Danish Jews to safety in Sweden by sea.

Oct 4 - Himmler talks openly about the Final Solution at Posen.

Oct 14, 1943 - Massive escape from Sobibor as Jews and Soviet POWs break out, with 300 making it safely into nearby woods. Of those 300, fifty will survive. Exterminations then cease at Sobibor, after over 250,000 deaths. All traces of the death camp are then removed and trees are planted.

Oct 16, 1943 - Jews in Rome rounded up, with over 1,000 sent to Auschwitz.

In Nov - The Riga Ghetto is liquidated.

In Nov - The U.S. Congress holds hearings regarding the U.S. State Department's inaction regarding European Jews, despite mounting reports of mass extermination.

Nov 3, 1943 - Nazis carry out Operation Harvest Festival in occupied Poland, killing 42,000 Jews.

Nov 4, 1943 - Quote from Nazi newspaper, Der Stürmer, published by Julius Streicher - "It is actually true that the Jews have, so to speak, disappeared from Europe and that the Jewish 'Reservoir of the East' from which the Jewish pestilence has for centuries beset the peoples of Europe has ceased to exist. But the Führer of the German people at the beginning of the war prophesied what has now come to pass."

Nov 11, 1943 - Auschwitz Kommandant Höss is promoted to chief inspector of concentration camps. The new kommandant, Liebehenschel, then divides up the vast Auschwitz complex of over 30 sub-camps into three main sections.

Dec 2, 1943 - The first transport of Jews from Vienna arrives at Auschwitz.

Dec 16, 1943 - The chief surgeon at Auschwitz reports that 106 castration operations have been performed.

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Jan 3, 1944 - Soviet troops reach former Polish border.

Jan 24, 1944 - In response to political pressure to help Jews under Nazi control, Roosevelt creates the War Refugee Board.

Jan 25, 1944 - Diary entry by Hans Frank, Gauleiter of Poland, concerning the fate of 2.5 million Jews originally under his jurisdiction - "At the present time we still have in the General Government perhaps 100,000 Jews."

In Feb - Eichmann visits Auschwitz.

March 19, 1944 - Nazis occupy Hungary (Jewish pop. 725,000). Eichmann arrives with Gestapo "Special Section Commandos."

March 24, 1944 - President Roosevelt issues a statement condemning German and Japanese ongoing "crimes against humanity."

April 5, 1944 - A Jewish inmate, Siegfried Lederer, escapes from Auschwitz-Birkenau and makes it safely to Czechoslovakia. He then warns the Elders of the Council at Theresienstadt about Auschwitz.

April 6, 1944 - Nazis raid a French home for Jewish children.

April 7, 1944 - Two Jewish inmates escape from Auschwitz-Birkenau and make it safely to Czechoslovakia. One of them, Rudolf Vrba, submits a report to the Papal Nuncio in Slovakia which is forwarded to the Vatican, received there in mid June.

April 14, 1944 - First transports of Jews from Athens to Auschwitz, totaling 5,200 persons.

In May - Himmler's agents secretly propose to the western Allies to trade Jews for trucks, other commodities or money.

May 8, 1944 - Rudolf Höss returns to Auschwitz, ordered by Himmler to oversee the extermination of Hungarian Jews.

May 15, 1944 - Beginning of deportation of Jews from Hungary to Auschwitz.

May 16, 1944 - Jews from Hungary arrive at Auschwitz. Eichmann arrives to personally oversee and speed up the extermination process. By May 24, an estimated 100,000 have been gassed. Between May 16 and May 31, the SS report collecting 88 pounds of gold and white metal from the teeth of those gassed. By the end of June, 381,661 persons - half of the Jews in Hungary - arrive at Auschwitz.

In June - A Red Cross delegation visits Theresienstadt after the Nazis have carefully prepared the camp and the Jewish inmates, resulting in a favorable report.

June 6, 1944 - D-Day: Allied landings in Normandy.

June 12, 1944 - Rosenberg orders Hay Action the kidnapping of 40,000 Polish children aged ten to fourteen for slave labor in the Reich.

Summer - Auschwitz-Birkenau records its highest-ever daily number of persons gassed and burned at just over 9,000. Six huge pits are used to burn bodies, as the number exceeds the capacity of the crematories.

In July - Swedish diplomat Raoul Wallenberg arrives in Budapest, Hungary, and proceeds to save nearly 33,000 Jews by issuing diplomatic papers and establishing 'safe houses.'

July 24, 1944 - Soviet troops liberate first concentration camp at Majdanek where over 360,000 had been murdered.

Aug 4, 1944 - Anne Frank and family arrested by Gestapo in Amsterdam, then sent to Auschwitz. Anne and her sister Margot are later sent to Bergen-Belsen where Anne dies of typhus on March 15, 1945.

Aug 6, 1944 - The last Jewish ghetto in Poland, Lodz, is liquidated with 60,000 Jews sent to Auschwitz.

Oct 7, 1944 - A revolt by Sonderkommando (Jewish slave laborers) at Auschwitz-Birkenau results in complete destruction of Crematory IV.

Oct 15, 1944 - Nazis seize control of the Hungarian puppet government, then resume deporting Jews, which had temporarily ceased due to international political pressure to stop Jewish persecutions.

Oct 17, 1944 - Eichmann arrives in Hungary.

Oct 28, 1944 - The last transport of Jews to be gassed, 2,000 from Theresienstadt, arrives at Auschwitz.

Oct 30, 1944 - Last use of gas chambers at Auschwitz.

Nov 8, 1944 - Nazis force 25,000 Jews to walk over 100 miles in rain and snow from Budapest to the Austrian border, followed by a second forced march of 50,000 persons, ending at Mauthausen.

Nov 25, 1944 - Himmler orders the destruction of the crematories at Auschwitz.

Late 1944 - Oskar Schindler saves 1200 Jews by moving them from Plaszow labor camp to his hometown of Brunnlitz.

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In 1945 - As the Allies advance, the Nazis conduct death marches of concentration camp inmates away from outlying areas.

Jan 6, 1945 - Soviets liberate Budapest, freeing over 80,000 Jews.

Jan 14, 1945 - Invasion of eastern Germany by Soviet troops.

Jan 17, 1945 - Liberation of Warsaw by the Soviets.

Jan 18, 1945 - Nazis evacuate 66,000 from Auschwitz.

Jan 27, 1945 - Soviet troops liberate Auschwitz. By this time, an estimated 2,000,000 persons, including 1,500,000 Jews, have been murdered there.

April 4, 1945 - Ohrdruf camp is liberated, later visited by General Eisenhower.

April 10, 1945 - Allies liberate Buchenwald.

April 15, 1945 - Approximately 40,000 prisoners freed at Bergen-Belsen by the British, who report "both inside and outside the huts was a carpet of dead bodies, human excreta, rags and filth."

April 23, 1945 - Berlin reached by Soviet troops.

April 29, 1945 - U.S. 7th Army liberates Dachau.

April 30, 1945 - Hitler commits suicide in his Berlin bunker.

April 30, 1945 - Americans free 33,000 inmates from concentration camps.

May 2, 1945 - Theresienstadt taken over by the Red Cross.

May 5, 1945 - Mauthausen liberated.

May 7, 1945 - Unconditional German surrender signed by Gen. Jodl at Reims.

May 9, 1945 - Hermann Göring captured by members of U.S. 7th Army.

May 23, 1945 - SS Reichsführer Himmler commits suicide.

Nov 20, 1945 - Opening of the Nuremberg International Military Tribunal.

Holocaust Statistics

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March 11, 1946 - Former Auschwitz Kommandant Höss, posing as a farm worker, is arrested by the British. He testifies at Nuremberg, then is later tried in Warsaw, found guilty and hanged at Auschwitz, April 16, 1947, near Crematory I. "History will mark me as the greatest mass murderer of all time," Höss writes while in prison, along with his memoirs about Auschwitz.

Oct 16, 1946 - Göring commits suicide two hours before the scheduled execution of the first group of major Nazi war criminals at Nuremberg. During his imprisonment, a (now repentant) Hans Frank states, "A thousand years will pass and the guilt of Germany will not be erased." Frank and the others are hanged and the bodies are brought to Dachau and burned (the final use of the crematories there) with the ashes then scattered into a river.

Dec 9, 1946 - 23 former SS doctors and scientists go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal at Nuremberg. Sixteen are found guilty, with 7 being hanged.

1947

Sept 15, 1947 - Twenty one former SS Einsatz leaders go on trial before a U.S. Military Tribunal in Nuremberg. Fourteen are sentenced to death, with only 4 (the group commanders) actually being executed. The other death sentences are commuted.

1960

May 11, 1960 - Adolf Eichmann is captured in Argentina by Israeli secret service.

1961

April 11 - August 14 - Eichmann on trial in Jerusalem for crimes against the Jewish people, crimes against humanity and war crimes. Found guilty and hanged at Ramleh on May 31, 1962. A fellow Nazi reported Eichmann once said "he would leap laughing into the grave because the feeling that he had five million people on his conscience would be for him a source of extraordinary satisfaction."

To the most offending bloggers here:

I must admit that Dr. Mahathir is so right about you. He always claims that you should use your brains. But once again you are failing to that. He taught you to think but you are not learning it and still using your anger emotions.

Except cursing jargon which your brain is full of it, you have nothing left for the real logical establishment of facts. People are getting angry when they face the true facts of their opponent and stop thinking but release the steam of emotions.
Your cursing jargon was planned to defeat me here and to banish me out of that blog with humiliation. I’m sorry to disappoint you, despite I’m struggling almost alone here as few against the many, I’ll continue to provide you more facts. I assume those fact will pour some more anger into this discussion.

...And to all hitler supporters and those who are quoting him. You are not more than the same as the greatest enemies of humanity and who is thinking as you think will just bring destruction among them. To all holocaust deniers here, you may enrich your education with the Palestinian-Muslim cooperation with hitler (facts right in your face) by the great mufti of Jerusalem Mohammad Amin al-Husayni http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni.

…And just to refresh the memory of those who are intending to wipe the Jews and Israel of the map. What happened to civilizations, nations and empires that have tried to destroy the Jewish people?
Ancient Egypt – Gone
Philistines – Gone
Assyrian Empire – Gone
Babylonian Empire – Gone
Persian Empire – Gone
Greek Empire – Gone
Roman Empire – Gone
Byzantine Empire – Gone
Crusaders – Gone (Muslims defeat them. Was it the Jews controlling Muslims by proxy?)
Spanish Empire – Gone
Nazi Germany – Gone
Soviet Union – Gone
Hamas – In process (despite your support)

The Jewish people, the smallest of nations, but with a Father in the highest of place who is defending us – God!!!

So, not any of us, radical, moderate, rational, rhetoric can predict the mystery ways of God. But based on history facts above, some people are going to lose. I’ll leave it for God to decide and for your fantasy.

Dr. Mahathir is right, start using your brains and not your emotional anger. Do start thinking how you may progress yourself rather how to destroy the other.

May Allah bless your day and wisdom to understand.

Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist

hello all,

the scene in Palestine is the guide and the sign from the Great Mighty Allah.I`m 80`s born after almost 30 plus Israel get the land of Palestine.I realize this issue since 4 or 5 years old,hearing from tv..Berita Dunia by Mr Singh or Farith Ismeth and others.Until now i`m just thinking why not Israel kill the Palestine people using the atomic bomb like USA do to Japan.Maybe using 3 nuclear bomb and Palestenian will dissappear from Palestine and Israel can extend their country and take all the Palestine land.Why this not happen?

Why Zionist Jews want the Palestine? Easy answer...who take the Baitulmuqaddis is KING in the world.That why the aim for Islam Government by Greatest Muhammad is take over the Baitulmuqaddis.Who control the Baitulmuqaddis land is the KING. See the back: Christian through Rome or Byzantyn hold Baitulmuqaddis ( Al Aqsa Mosque) is the KING in the world.After defeat to Umar Al Khattab army - Batrix ( Rome General at Baitulmuqaddis) give the key of Baitulmuqaddis town.After that Islam become most powerful empire from all aspect for a long time. After the Palestine occupied by west power...British has become the KING of the world. When the west power manipulated by Zionist Jews the Jews become KING of the world.

The sign from Allah; Muslims must unity and believe Allah will help as long we came back to TRUE route by Allah.Through 2 BIGGEST guider: Al Quran and Sunnah. Look is simple but the two guider is not utilize by Muslims at all.Allah not give the permission Zionist Jews to take down Palestinian until now.That`s why they still fight until now.They afraid and fear to what they created and introduce to world( rocket and launcher ).Jews Zionist is coward and fear with their shadows.That the factor they always want the world in chaos and horror.They really afraid Iran to built the nuclear reactor.why? Iran want declare war with them? Zionist Jews is like ghost see their selves in the glass of water.

To Hanan in reading.

HOLOCAUST is LYING...and created issue existing by Zionist Jews.
The holocaust is like 10 Zionist died then revenge with kill 1500 Palestinian. The Jews died maybe 200 but the issue become 5000 or 5000000 kill by Nazi.European people has been lying by Zionist Jews almost 70 years.

Salam Tun & fellow bloggers,

To Balan,Feb 2

1.You were quoting holy bible to advice Tun & fellow bloggers on humanity issues

2.It's good knowing that you are trying to be rational an caring

3.I'm not in a position to make comments on your belief and faith

4.But you have forgotten to make a research on how bible of today has evolved through centuries of differing interpretation by church leaders

5.I really hope that you wipe clean your mirror first before judging others' image in it

6.Nothing personal

Wassalam

salam Tun & fellow bloggers

To Alon fr Israel,Feb 3,

Please refer to my above posting to Hanan.It will make you proud killer and robber.Trust me on this!

Wassalam

salam Tun & fellow bloggers,

Dear Hanan,

A robber (read Jews)was caught beating mercilessly a house owner (Palestinian) who he manage to break into.While the house owner struggling for his dear life and possessions,the robber shouted 'robber,robber'.Policeman arrived (UN,USA),but instead of apprehending the robber,forcing the house owner to share the loot with the robber!

I hope this story will make you feel proud and elevate your patriotism.Happy killing & robbing!It's Jews' way of life!

Wassalam

Salam..
Dear Tun,

Yes, you're right.
A heartless genius is nothing but a complete MONSTER.Adding to that,words by Tayyib Erdogan ..while facing Peres in the World Economic Forum were so true.His expression changed while commenting on the cold-blooded killings of the helpless children in Gaza...It was akin telling Peres that the ruthless murder done by the Israelis was UNFORGIVEABLE.

Some quotes of his that caught my attention:

''..Peres's loud volume is one sign of psychological criminality..''

''...what Israel is doing is a BARBARIAN act beyond cruelty..''

''..those who clap for the murder here is another humanitarian crime..''

At times, words can be such a great weapon. You and Mr.Erdogan have proved it..

Dear non jibaok,

I have been reading Tun's blog for sometime and he is sharp in explaining things. His experiences in live and his contribution to all Malaysians and to the whole wide world easily surpasses many or almost all of the commentors here. May he experience the peace amd immense joy all the days of his life together with his wife and whole family.

non jibaok,
In your writings, I "smell a strong odour" of disgust that you're experiencing. You have a very inclined and a very judgemental mind..just as I am judgemental about you.

Everyone "plays" this judging game and to the player - he'll say "I am sure, I know without a spec of doubt" but without any concrete evidence to support his claim.

The issue here is a sad one. Palestine !

What is your solution?
What can we do?
What must we do? Let's think rather than talk....

One author wrote in his book. "The problem that infuriates you the most is the problem that God has assigned you to solve. Do something about it or Shut-up about it"

Everyone is judging everybody and I too judge and am convinced that the "culprit" is religion - Very obviously.

One man's meat is another man's poison. What respect does one have for another's religion. Unless he is afraid of the dire consequences he/she may have to face from the believers of the other faith or the fear of the consequences he may face from the unknown forces for having questioned (ridiculed) the other religion.

It's embedded within. THE LOVE FOR THE RELIGION is the culprit.
Some live by the written law and religiously force themselves to practice it even to the extent of hate. There is no God in that religion but fear - just plain actions and repurcussions.

There are some who live above the written law and connect it to God - suiting the times and conveniently claim championshiop.

Whom am I speaking about? Is it the Hindus, the Taoist, the Sikhs, the Christians, the Buddhist, the Muslims, the Judaist ... W H O ??

It's not about religion, It's about who we are.
Who we truly are? What do you do when no one is watching?

Is that how you will behave if God is walking and talking with you?

By throwing ridicule and hate... backbiting and scandalizing...There'll be non-stop violence.

You can check out this episode from the internet: When someone asked Sir Albert Einstein what he thought of the third world war, he replied...." I don't know about the 3rd world war but I know the 4th world war would be fought with sticks and stones".

No one in this world is born a Devil.
No child is born with a Religion or a Race or a Language.

Semua sama..

What can we do? Do something about it or shut-up about it.
I choose not to backbite but again I want to contribute.....
so experience some pain - sell of your car OR your house (legally earned).... jump into any legal fund-collection body and donate for the well-being of the people in Palestine. DO IT SECRETLY!
You know very well that you won't suffer as much as the people there....

Your fury will then be lessened because you've helped someone to lead a better life.

I have also seen many who donate a comfortable RM 1/= and sign Hamba Allah SECRETLY.... Is God such a poor master ?

READ THIS MESSAGE OF HATE: Do you think God will be proud of Mr.Z

By Z on February 2, 2009 6:11 PM
Hanan, I don't need to have a dialogue to see who win....the absolute truth is I known this for awhile even when I were kid...and you were in your Israeli mother's womb your fate already been written that you and your mother gonna straight to hell...I don't have remorse,mercy or sympathy for any Israeli that got killed by Palestinian because you(Israel) deserved it.

Lastly, Believing in a HOLY GOD is what we can all do. He is in total control over all situation or else the Universe will be no more it will have collided a long time ago.

WSalam
Semuasama

Dear all,
come on.. let's get back to the topic.
Do we really need to do this (boycott)?
if there is a vote.. then i would say yesss (i do).. that's only one of actions we could do..
it's all about the truth.. well, for some people of course, it's really hard to accept it and couldn't denied that we couldn't force someone to believe what we believed..
there are lots articles over the net (from the history till today). Maybe someday they would do further research to find the truth..
just be honest.. open your mind to the facts & see it
thru' your eyes.. then you may find it.. God bless you!

-abdillaah rabbuljalill

Dear Hanan,

1. thank u for responding to my post.

2. i'm not admiring hitler. but, i just wonder why he wanted to wiped out all jews. he already quote in his personal diary but can i ask u why?

3.i see..is it better to slaughtered other people? but why palestinian should pay for the sin did by the nazi? is this what u call justice? i'm curious

4. yes. hanan, u have to be a bad jew. please...i beg u. from what u have said, it is already shows who u are. but, i don't hate u, don't worry.

5. muslims are not hate ALL jew. and not all jew are as bad as those who killed palestinian in Gaza. even some jew in U.K and U.S also force israeli gov not to attacked palestinian. and i know, u are not one of them.

Thank you for your time.

Daisuke Senzaki, UiTM Shah Alam, Malaysia.

I'm Malaysian Muslim and proud to be one.

Good Day TUN and to all Jews haters,

To Hanan,

Please take your twisted explanation somewhere else.Everybody that reads your comment knows that you really are a retarded moron.Seriuosly you Jews really are bunch of morons.I personally think that you Jews are brought up so violently because when you (Jews) were an infant you were sucking up to a smelly Wild Pig milks.
Long Live Adolf Hitler and long live Hamas Fighters.May you keep continue to fight the Jews and send them to hell.

Children Learn
What They Live

If a Child lives with criticism,
He learns to condemn,
If a child lives with hostility,
He learns to fight.

If a child lives with ridicule,
He learns to be shy.
If a child lives with shame,
He learns to feel guilty.

If a child lives with tolerance,
He learns to be patient.
If a child lives with encouragement,
He learns confidence.

If a child lives with praise,
He learns to appreciate.
If a child lives with fairness,
He learns justice.

If a child lives with security,
He learns to have faith.
If a child lives with approval,
He learns to like himself.

If a child lives with acceptance,
And friendship,
He learns to find love in the world.

i guess we all know.....
how these children of the palestines learn and live....
may this world be peace.......

balan a hindraf... for sure

Dear Hanan,

This is again a story of a killer trying to cover up his guilt. A serial assassin (without gut by nature) will never confess the genocide he had committed, even though if he is being placed in court trial. Excuses or so-called evidence will be generated through a group of 'professional' barristers to 'logicalise' whatever facts and evidence that the world sees and knows from the video and photos easily found in any newspapers or tv in every corner of the world. Only those blind, deaf and being a murderer by generation, are so denial on the lives and soul of the babies of parents, and also dads and moms of the children you have killed because these morons, as i refer, are basically created by universities in the country that do not teach them moral and humanity.

The world must punish these morons. Yet we can't only rely on the U.N. which is cowed by the Jews. A tribunal MUST be formed and seat by independent panels to put these people in death sentence and it will be the best resort to stop the carnage.

Hanan,

What if the entire world bomb your country, seize your homeland and kill your people, your dad and mom, your son and daughter. What if the land you stand proud of today owned by other people tomorrow. I will really appreciate if you can tell me your feelings and I'm certainly more than ready to share with you.

Sean Lum
3 Feb 2009

assalamualaikum Tun,

Sorry to say but we the muslim are being carried away by the palestinians issues

The jews have a greater agenda than to control the plot of land. Why would they need a land call palestine when they already have the world.

senzakidaisuke... we must not thank hitler. Hitler only helped the jews to become what they are today.

Hanan...oh Hanan.....Once a JEW always a JEW.....now I realize why GOD loves them so muchhhh ....they will twist and turn all the facts they can to legalize their invasion of Palestine and towards their own advantage......I made up my mind long-long time ago....as stated in Al-Quran....Israel/Jews is the lowest level of Human Being.....PERIOD.

Salam Ayahanda Tun,

It's been a while that I have not been 'visiting' you here. Gosh..i guess I have missed a lot of things. In regards to Hanan's article, as usual you said it well. But then again, people who are heartless will not accept whatever you have said, though they could be brainy. I also like the term 'primitive brutes'...the Israelis and US are creating more of this species day by day . To some Malaysians, please read the reply by Ayahanda Tun with open mind and open hearts, otherwise you'll be in the same category as primitive brutes, not physically but emotionally and mentally.

I miss you Ayahanda Tun....take care and do pour us with informsative thoughts...we definitely need your brainy, caring hearts ideas...

Love u,
Orang Edgecumbe Road,
Penang.

Dear Tun, I extremely agreed that Palestinian deserved the independence land and they too deserve to exist. I will never agree with anyone if they said a Palestinian independence fighter is a terrorist. From the day one in my research on security issues, I categorise the Palestine struggle as a humanitarian and not as religion but it seems you are giving priority to Palestine only and not to the other country who face the war too. My question is why Tun never speaks against the WAR IN SRI LANKA? Tamil ethnic irrespective of religion (Hindu, Muslims, Christians) dying everyday but it seems no one bothers. Majority of Malaysian believe speaking against war in Sri Lanka means indirectly supporting the insurgency which I don’t agree. Would like to hear some comments from Tun on this issue.

Salam Tun,

Kenapalah Tun berhenti jadi PM dan serahkan tampok pemerintahan pada yang tamak, tidak bijak dan pengecut tu. Alangkah baiknya jika kita ada seorang pemimpin yang mahu bersuara tanpa takut menegakkan kebenaran.

Apa yang dirasakan betul, terus disuarakan. Biarpun kecil dan tak berkuasa dimata dunia tetapi sangat membina semangat dan harapan.

Biarpun tak semua pendapat Tun saya boleh terima, dalam hal ini saya menyanjung pendirian Tun.

Allahuakbar...

It’s more than enough that we get an arrogant and unyielding Zionist-Israeli cum Ashkenazi Jews in the likes of Hanan – The Horrible, but occasionally (and lately) we also get response from possibly even local individuals such as – i.e. balan & Liew. How disturbing!

Deii… Mr. balan….., yaarrethe..!? How come you sympathise with that Hanan fella, huh? Are you also a great supporter of those evil Zionists-Israeli?

It seems that you are so proficient in giving so many quotes & excerpts from the Bible scripture. So, I presume that you are Christian and most probably a Protestant. If that is the case, then may I ask you whether you accept (or recognize) that The Jews are God’s chosen people in this earth? This is a simple question. Just answers this question according to what you understand from your own scriptures, OK?

For your information the reason we bother or take concern about the situation in the Middle-East is because there is a Great Massacre & Mass-Murder of civilians going on over there. Women, children & babies are being bombed, shot-at and literally murdered and in great scores by those whom you have sympathy with – i.e. Hanan & those Zionist-Israelis.

Yes, perhaps there are police brutalities over here, such as the case of Anwar Ibrahim getting the infamous ‘blue-black eye’ about 10 years ago. Anyway, I personally believe that he (Anwar) deserved it even though it was wrong for the IGP then (Tan Sri Rahim Noor) to physically assault him. Even policemen have human feelings and will ‘react physically’ when they are called ‘Anjing’ straight in their face and what more by an arrested suspect in custody! Mind you, because of his ‘unprofessionalism’, the IGP back then had lost his job. So justice is done for Anwar.

In the recent case of Kugan fella who had died in police custody as a suspect, may I suggest nobody should react for the moment until a full and complete investigation and report is made.

However, if you dare say that that our local police are so brutal then you are a damn fool by comparing them with what the Zionist-Israelis had done in Gaza Strip.

The police here do not go around killing women, children and babies, do they? The police do not go around bombing and obliterate civilian homes and buildings. The police do not go around destroying public utility services and even hospitals, do they?

So, balan you fool – Don’t make a mountain out of a mole-hill, OK?

Lastly you said – “Ibarat gajah di tepi mata tidak nampak, tetapi kuman di seberang laut yang kita nampak.”

Waaah, you sure pandai bermadah one, aah!?

Actually it is you who fail to realise that you are - “Ibarat kari ayam yang enak di depan mata itu yang awak katakan tahi, tapi najis busuk di seberang sungai yang awak katakan harum-enak bagai kuah kari kepala-ikan daun-karupalai”

So, balan….., be mindful on which cyber forum/platform you are stepping on and in which country you are domicile to, before shooting-off with your silly opinion. Be reminded that our country Malaysia have no diplomatic relations whatsoever with the Zionist state of Israel. Let’s hope it remains that way!

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As for Liew,

You mentioned that you have read all of the 431 comments including Hanan’s reply to TDM. However, from your comments I reckon you have not read ALL of them (plus their links & URL’s), but you have perhaps simply just skimmed over them briefly.

If you had gone through all of them, then you would have fully understood all the comments from each and everyone. I alone have personally posted 3 prior comments with 2 lengthy ones and with the relevant links and URLs. Have you read my comments and fully digested and understood them all - especially the links and URLs? May I suggest that you go over them again.

Nonetheless, from your remarks here it seems you have learned nothing, but have gone about ranting idiotic issues.

It seems you have failed to comprehend the feelings, comments, facts & figures, that had been posted by all the contributors here in this article/forum. Have you ever noticed that on this article alone (i.e. Hanan…), that have by now reached more that 450 postings & comments, and have long overshot previous & earlier article such ‘Rob’, and should surely overshoot another popular earlier article such as - ‘Pilihanraya Kecil Kuala Terengganu’, in terms of participating comments.

So Liew, what does all this mean?

It means that generally the public is very concerned about this Zionist-Israeli person (by the name of Hanan) who dares to confront Tun Dr. Mahathir (through the old-man’s public forum) and not merely to chide the old-man via some private email message, on issues that touches our very heart – i.e. the massacre & mass murder of human beings and atrocities of the worst and evil kind.

And yes, the overwhelming response we get in supporting TDM’s article and instead lambasting the Hanan fella is not surprising at all.

Why? If you wish to ask. Because we get only arrogance from an individual such as this Hanan fella who have no remorse nor regret whatsoever, with regard the Mass Murder & Massacre going on in The Gaza Strip. And yet the fella attempts to justify the massacre by putting the blame on Hamas instead.

Well let me enlightened you further regarding the Hamas and how they got started, as per the link below:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z6vMAoFwf4

So clearly here as Dr. Ron Paul (the Congressman from Texas) had put it and said that The US & Israel are getting too many ‘blowbacks’ for what they have done in The Middle-East especially.

Do you understand the political term ‘blowback’, huh? Go find out for yourself.

Anyway, now Israel is trying instead to overcome the Hamas (a product of their own creation) at the costs of thousands of Palestinian lives in The Gaza Strip.

Just as the Americans had supported, financed and armed Osama bin Laden, The Mujahideens & The Talibans in Afghanistan some donkey years ago, whereas nowadays these are the same people that The US are pointing their finger at - as being International Terrorists! What a joke!

And Liew, as for the rest of your other comments, I will simply ignore them as those are silly & childish remarks that does qualify for any response. Kindly use this forum/platform well and do try to refrain yourself in making silly jokes about the Palestine, that would only make you look like a fool and could aggravate the feelings of others who are contributing their comments here.

And lastly, don’t try too hard to be a Jibaok, OK?

To senzakidaisuke,

As hitler is your role model to follow, I would be the bad Jew.

This is something Rami Kaminski, MD, wrote recently. It will answer all those people like you with distorted brains like yours.

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Long Live Bad Jews!

Why I Am a Bad Jew
Rami Kaminski, MD,

For centuries, we lived in Berdichev. In the brutal Ukrainian winter of 1941, SS soldiers arrived there and rounded up eighty-seven members of my family, babies, young adults, octogenarians, stripped them naked, marched them to a nearby ditch, and executed them. Their lifeless bodies fell silently into a mass grave.

During their two millennia in the Diaspora, Jews were not known to resist. There are few recorded instances in which Jews turned against their host nations or retaliated against their murderers. Instead, the survivors if there were any were expelled or left for another place. The murdered were regarded as good Jews. They accepted their fate helplessly, without resistance.

This narrative of the Jews has played out on the historical stage with boring monotony: Jews get killed because they are Jews. Nothing novel about it. After the Holocaust, however, the world, disgusted by this particularly ghoulish period of history, accorded some sympathy for the Jews.

Media commentary about the ongoing Gaza War reveals the world has now reverted to its pre-Holocaust perspective. Today, the only good Jew is a powerless Jew willing to become a dead one. The Zionist Revolution is to "blame". It changed everything. Jews re-created their own country.

The Arabs attacked the new Jewish state the day after independence and promised to complete Hitler's genocide. In succeeding decades, the Arabs attacked again and again. Strangely, the Jews, many of them refugees from Arab nations, adopted a surprising, new tactic: they fought back.
With Zionism, the Jews stubbornly refused to follow the centuries-old script. They refuse to be killed without resistance. As a result, the world has become increasingly enraged at their impertinence.

The recent events in Gaza and Mumbai make this plain. In 2005, Israel eliminated all Jewish presence in Gaza making it Judenrein and handed it over to the Palestinians. Left behind were synagogues and thriving green houses. The Arabs looted and destroyed them literally the day after Israel 's withdrawal was complete. Where these structures once stood, the Palestinians built military bases and installed rocket launchers to shell Israeli civilians. To date, some 7,000 missiles have fallen on Israeli cities and towns, killing and maiming dozens, and sowing widespread terror. Medical studies reveal nearly all Jewish children in the communities bordering Gaza suffer from serious, trauma-induced illness.

The Gazan Palestinians then elected Hamas to lead them. Hamas proceeded to kill or imprison their political rivals, and its leaders, true to the Hamas charter, were unabashed in clearly stating their aims: they will not stop until they achieve their Final Solution, kill all the Jews, take over the land of Israel , and establish a theocracy governed by Islamic law.

As killing Jews for being Jews has been a national sport for centuries, Islamic militants are justified in believing they are merely fulfilling historical tradition in Argentina, India and Gaza. Surely the Jews in Mumbai did not occupy Gaza. They were tortured and killed just for being Jews. And predictably, in the eyes of the world, they immediately became good Jews, just like my murdered family in Bertishev.

Good Jews would wait until Hamas has weapons enabling its members to achieve their ultimate goal of absolute mass murder. Those enraged by Israel's defensive military action insist Hamas uses only crude rockets, as if Qassams were BB guns, and military inferiority were somehow equivalent with moral superiority. In fact, Hamas now has Iranian-supplied Grad missiles which have landed on Beer Sheva and the outskirts of Tel Aviv.

Westerners have had only sporadic exposure to the indiscriminant killing in the name of holy war which Israel has lived with for years. Memories of 9-11, Madrid , and London have dimmed. This is not because the Islamic militants made a careful choice of weapons. They simply have not yet acquired nuclear bombs. Once they do, the West will develop a less detached view about the Islamists professed intentions for the infidels.

The only enlightened people in the civilized world who actually get it are the Israelis. They ve not had time for detached philosophical ponderings. They ve been too busy confronting the reality of Islamic fundamentalism.

Soon, Iran will have nuclear weapons. It will give them to Hezbollah and Hamas. Today, Jews must take a position: either be "good" Jews willing to be slaughtered without resistance, or be bad Jews who defend themselves at the cost of being pariahs of our enlightened world. Good Jews would wait for another six million to be murdered, and pick up to leave for another country to start the cycle again. The bad ones refuse to go calmly into the ditch.

I confess: I'm a bad Jew!
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Rami Kaminski, MD, is Director and Founder of the Institute for Integrative Psychiatry in New York, a not-for -profit organization aimed at evaluating current psychiatric services and how they integrate with medicine, such as the mutual effects between medical and psychiatric conditions. Prior to that, Dr. Kaminkski was the Commissioner's Liaison to Families and Community and Medical Director of Operations at the New York State Office of Mental Health. Dr. Kaminski also holds an academic position as Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Columbia University. He earned recognition in 1990 from Mt. Sinai Hospital as Physician of the Year, and received the Exemplary Psychiatrist Awards from the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill. Dr. Kaminski 's research explores neuropsychiatric aspects of brain disorders, such as Alzheimer and Parkinson's disease and movement disorders, as well as psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. He was for many years Director of The Schizophrenia research Unit at Mount Sinai Hospital in NYC. Dr. Kaminiski also served as the Medical Director of the PMHP and consultant to the committee in charge of developing the Special Needs Program.
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Hanan, Jewish and Israeli Zionist.

Hi all. I am a student from Singapore. This is my first time that I read a blog entry (Hanan) from top to bottom. (of course I skipped some repetitive parts). I am overwhelmed by 2 things.

First, the amount of response that Tun Dr M's blog generates is just phenomenal.

Secondly, I would like to thank Tun Dr Mahathir for sharing with us his sea of knowledge. Honestly, what I learnt since 11 plus pm till 3 am right now, I would not be able to get it from my lecturers in NTU. Not disrespecting them but they are skilled in other fields.
It is an eye opener. I realised I have been living under a tempurung for 21 years. Time for me to wake up my idea!

Before I leave, I would like to say to Tun, I really respect you as a Muslim and as a leader. Saya suka dengan pemikiran Tun. Saya anggap Tun sebagai salah satu daripada ribuan kekasih-kekasih Allah, yang telah dianugerahkan hati yang terang pelajaran dunia dan akhirat.

Semoga Tun dipanjangkan umur dalam ketaatan & kesihatan, dikuatkan iman, diberkati rezeki, dan bahagia dunia akhirat. Harap dapat bertemu suatu hari nanti. :)

Dear Dr. Mhathir,
The problem of the Arab world has obviously become the problem of the Muslim world. I watch amazed as educated people like yourself easily fall down to promoting such concepts as expressed in your item list. This kind of insiting beliefs had existed through out history and mostly in times of crisis.
You are bashing the jews, although this conflict is about Israel and Pleastine. You are bashing Israel although 20% of Israelis are Muslim like yourself and some even serve in the Israeli Army. How is bashing Israel or the US help to promote understanding and peace? You believe you know the facts from half a world away, but as an Israeli let me tell you that I have to live the facts day by day, not hear about them second hand. You do not have to live with the grieve and agony over your best friend's 3 year old girl that was murdered by a Plestinian "Shaheed"/"Freedom Fighter" entering her own home and shooting her in the head just because she was a jewish child. There are houndred of such murder attempts which are being toppled each week however I am sure you do not hear, nor seeked for them. So, If I am a heartless monster, like you say, how come my heart is weaping? If I am a monster for doing every thing in my power to protect my children from the rightrous brutality of the ones that call them selves "Shaids" and call upon my destruction- then let it be so. But this monster of yours has never cheered for the death of inocents like Muslim all over had in Spet 11. I deeply weap when Plestinian children get hurt when caught in cross fire - They are not to balme. However I dont forgive those who put intentional murder as a goal for their "Holy War" no matter what their cause is.

Thanks from me and from all my good Malay friends sharing similar feeling but are intimidated to express them in open.

Alon,
Israel.

DEAR HANAN,

MY NIECE ALSO NAMED HANAN BUT I THINK SHE WOULD UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE CRUELTY OF ISRAELIS. IF YOU WANT TO JUSTIFY WHAT ISRAEL HAS DONE TO THE PALESTINIANS; JAILED THEM WITH THE CONCRETE WALL, NO TRAVEL WITHOUT ISRAEL PERMISSION, NO SUPPLIES, NO FREEDOM, SEIZING THEIR LAND, DEMOLISHING THEIR HOME AND FARMS, BEING TARGETED BY ISRAEL DRONE AT ANY TIME. AND MANY MORE OF OPPRESSIONS BEING PUT ON PALESTINIANS WITHOUT THEY BEING GIVEN ANY RIGHT TO FIGHT BACK OR AT LEAST TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, IF THEY FIGHT BACK THAT WILL BE BRANDED AS TERRORIST ONLY TO SEE ISRAEL DRONE CAN DO THE KILLING AS THEY WISHED. THE PARALYZED SHEIKH YASEN ALSO DID NOT ESCAPED FROM ISRAEL DRONE, BEING ROCKETED AFTER FINISHED THE DAWN PRAYER. NOBODY WOULD STAY IN GAZA TO PUT UNDER HOUSE ARREST FOR 60 YEARS. I WONDER IF YOU COULD STAY LONGER THAN 2 WEEKS IN GAZA WITHOUT FREEDOM AND SUPPLIES. YOUR GRANDMOTHER, YOUR UNCLES AND YOURSELF ALSO COULD NOT STAND THE NAZI AND RAN AWAY TO US, HOW COULD YOU BLIND YOUR EYES AND HEARTS TO SUPPORT THE SAME CRUELTY AGAINST PALESTINIANS. NO MUSLIMS REALY SUPPORT THE NAZIS HOWEVER IF ISRAELIS WOULD JUSTIFY WHAT THEY DID TO PALESTINIANS, NOT ONLY MUSLIMS BUT OTHER RELIGIONS AND RACES WOULD REGARD HITLER AS THEIR SAVIOR AGAINST THE JEWS.

I HAVE READ ONE AMERICAN JEWS CONVERTED TO MUSLIM BECAUSE OF SIMPLE REASONS;
1. HIS LOOKING FOR UNIVERSAL RELIGION, THAT IS NOT JUDAISM BECAUSE IT IS EXCLUSIVE FOR WHOM WHO BORN JEWS. HOW COMES GOD SO RACIST CREATING THE RELIGION ONLY FOR JEWS.
2. HIS LOOKING FOR RELIGION WITH ONE GOD, IF SO MANY GODS WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE DISAGREED WITH EACH OTHER, LIKES ISRAEL AND PALESTINE? NOT IN HINDUISM AND BUDDHISM. MEANWHILE IN CHRISTIAN THERE ARE SON OF GOD, THAT MEAN ALSO FATHER OF GOD AND RUHUL QUDUS, THERE ARE 3 GODS, THAT CANNOT BE. ONE VERSES IN THE BIBLE ARE SAYING MESSIAH HAD SACRIFICED HIMSELF TO CLEAN HIS FOLLOWER SINS BUT IN ANOTHER VERSES MESSIAH ASKING THE GOD WHETHER ANY CHANCE FOR GOD MERCIES AND THIS CONTRADICTING.
3. THEN HE FOUND MANY ANSWERS IN AL QURAN THAT HAVE PROVEN SCIENTIFICALLY THAT IMPOSSIBLE FOR HUMAN BEING 1450 YEARS AGO T NARRATE THE QURAN.
4. THE SURAH AL-IKHLAS HAS DECRIBED HOW IS ALLAH,THE ONLY ONE GOD, THE ETERNAL, THE AABSOLUTE, NOT HE BEGETS AND NOT HE IS BEGOTTEN, AND NOT FOR HIM ANY EQUIVALENT.

WE ARE NEITHER ANTI JEWS NOR SUPPORTER OF HITLER BUT IF YOU ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY THE MASSACRE AND GENOCIDAL OF HUMAN BEING PALESTINIANS, WE ARE ALSO HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO JUSTIFY THE HOLOCAUST.

THOUSANDS GOOD CANNOT JUSTIFY ONES WRONG.

I WISH TO GET YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS SO I CAN E-MAIL TO YOU THE PHOTOS OF CIVILIANS BEING KILLED WITHOUT PROVOCATION. SO WE CAN TREAT OURSELVES AS GOD CREATION AND WORKING FOR PEACE.

MY EMAIL ADDRESS; WANZAH158@ROCKETMAIL.COM

DEAR FRIEND HANAN,

TQ

WRM

Tun,

Seperti apa yang dikatakan oleh saya dahulu, Tuhan mencipta kita semua untuk menikmati apa yang diciptanya di dunia ini. Jadi tiada gunanya kita menggunakan akal dan fikiran kita untuk mempertahankan sebarangan peperangan yang hanya akan menghancurkan dunia yang dicipta oleh Tuhan kita. Pada pandangan saya tiada pencipta yang sanggup melihat makluknya berperang sesama sendiri dengan bunuh membunuh sesama umat manusia di dunia. Sekiranya ada maka ia boleh diibaratkan sebagai seorang bapa yang melahirkan anak dan kemudian mengajar mereka untuk saling bunuh dan membunuh sesama anak mereka.Apakah kita berasa megah dengan fakta-fakta kita untuk mempertahankan sebarang unsur peperangan sedangkan ia membawa kemusnahan dan kehancuran kepada umat manusia? Sekiranya Tun merasakan ada bapa yang sanggup berbuat demikian maka tulislah dan siarkan komen saya untuk dilihat oleh semua manusia yang dikatakan bijak dan sentiasa menggunakan akal dan fikiran yang diberikan oleh pencipta kita.

Pada pandangan saya , peperangan berlaku disebabkan oleh kelemahan sifat mereka (sebagai manusia)yang lupa satu sifat yang paling utama dalam satu kehidupan iaitu mencapai kehidupan yang paling sempurna di dunia ini dengan memaafkan kesalahan sesama manusia dan dan bergerak kearahan pepaduan manusia sejagat.Kelemahan inilah yang menyebabkanb manusia gagal di dalam pengujian pencipta kita untuk memaafkan sesama umat manusia dan menggunakan akal dan fikiran untuk mencapai kesejahteraan dan keamanan sejagat demi kebaikan semua makhluk ciptaannya demi untuk mencapai satu kehidupan yang paling bermakna dalam dunia sementara ini. Jadi fikirlah sedalam-dalamnya akan hakikat bahawa kita semua adalah makhluk ciptaan Tuhan tanpa membeza-bezakan warna kulit, agama dan apa-apa yang akan mengugat keamanan sejagat. Sekiranya manusia dapat mengingati unsur paling penting iaitu bagaimana kita wujud di dunia ini maka kita semua akan bersatu dan mencapai satu kenikmatan hidup di dunia sementara ini tanpa berperang.

Quote from Hitler's Personal Diary

" I could have annihilated all the jews in the world, but i left some of them so you will know why i was killing them."

signed Adolf Hitler.

Aslmualaikum YABhg. Tun,

how are u? Tun, i'm quite upset when heard that some malaysian supprt israel. but, we can't do anything regarding that. it is their point of view and they are looking the conflict based on their narrow perspective. some of them thought that the conflict in palestine is muslims problem.
yes, israel is defending themselves..
but why hamas keep attacked them? the answer is simple..
they occupied palestinian land..
is it wrong for them to do so (attacked israel)?
they are defending themselves.

actually, i like the quotation from one of our friend here. he quote quotation from late adolf hitler. hitler is a war criminal. but what he and his army done is very significant to us. i don't know much bout him but i really respect hitler as a leader.

there is no perfect leader in this world..
but, hitler is not the worst one..

olmert, shimon peres, netanyahu, ehud barak, ariel sharon, bush, blair, john howard is example of among the worse leader in the 21st century..
they do nothing for the future, despite they ruin it..
chaotic...

Tun, keep up the good work.

salam Tun & fellow bloggers,

Dear Hanan,

I have only one question,which puzzled me & others:

Why Jews has been chased,expelled and kicked like a football all over places for thousand of years?

wassalam

Hanan, I don't need to have a dialogue to see who win....the absolute truth is I known this for awhile even when I were kid...and you were in your Israeli mother's womb your fate already been written that you and your mother gonna straight to hell...I don't have remorse,mercy or sympathy for any Israeli that got killed by Palestinian because you(Israel) deserved it.

Dear Hanan,

I liked what you wrote too, with all specific and clean cut facts stated I was able to absorb more history knowledge from you. You even go to the extend of analyzing and listing out the facts point by point as opposing argument and making logical comparisons, these are indeed intelligent argument as it wasn't swayed by emotions and personal background, I respect and honor you for the knowledge you have in providing comprehensive explaination. God bless you.

hi all,

all i can see in the blog and the comments are hate, hate, and hate...

Tun,

I read all of the 431 comments including Hanan’s reply to you and I think we should not continue to write about this Gaza issues. There is no answer the problem but a lot of anger comments from readers. Like what Hanan, said there are two side of a coin and both side have good reasons and facts but some of the readers simply just like to at one side including you. Jews are people that have been prosecuted by many all their life and they are hardened survival and they learned to survive by changing and evolving. If the Palestine can emulate them then there will be less problems between them and Palestinians will live a more peaceful and comfortable live. There are some who think the Gaza problems is related to religion and politics but my opinion is that the problems are financial.

If all the countries of the world were to provide technical and financial assistances to the Palestinians by setting up just one factory / business each in Gaza, the Palestinians will have no time to fight or shoot rockets as they have to work and Hamas will have no time to instigate any suicide bombing as they will be more interested in tax collecting. Then Hamas politicians can copy our Malaysian Politicians by thinking of implementing or building big projects and practice Money Politics. Ha ha

Even better if they start to open discos and pubs, then Palestinians will be dancing, drinking (happy hours) and dating Jews and not thinking of killing each other or thinking too much about politics and religion. Then the Gaza problems will have a happy ending for everyone especially Palestinians and Israelis. Maybe the Labu-Labi Airport should be build there by Air Asia and their CEO or KJ can be PM there too.

its ok hanan,

some people will rather use their emotion instead of using their intelligent. anyway you have tried your best, as for me, i rather sit and read those comments out here for it is not worth to educate people whom will not willing to undestand the fact.

Why bother about something in foreign land when in our own land, discrimination and police brutality is overwhelming...

Ibarat gajah di tepi mata tidak nampak, tetapi kuman di seberang laut yang kita nampak.

dear tun,

i have posted in your previous message but i didnt see it surface yet.. anyway i have something to share from christian perspective.

Just my humble quotes from the bible. no offense to my muslim brothers.

He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
--1 John 2:9,10

Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
--1 John 3:15

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
--1 John 4:20

A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another (John 13:34).

But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you (Luke 6:27-28).

Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse (Romans 12:14).

We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it (1 Corinthians 4:12).

Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head." Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good (Romans 12:17-21).

Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing (1 Peter 3:9).

Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness. Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble (1 John 2:9-10).

Hanan,

Here's another info digging I made for you. All you have to do is just click the link below and you'll find what you cant find on BBC or CNN.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

Assalamualaikum Tun,

To compare the Kugan case with the plight of the Palestinians is not fair, eventhough both bring misery and anguish and distressing to the minds of everyone.

Firstly, the Palestinians are not the criminals or the suspected criminals here. They are the war victims and are prisoners in their own land. They do not commit crime to earn bread and water for a living. They are being pulped to death for a crime they did not commit by a country called Israel.

Police brutalities occurred in every country and in every corners of the world. Remember the beatings of the blacks in the US by the white American police? Remember the fatal shooting of the Brazilian engineer in a bus by the UK police? Remember the death of a young man by the Greek police? Remember the deaths of the Aborigines in Australian police jails? All kinds of brutalities by all kinds of people are to be condemned!

In Malaysia we are blessed with the stability and harmony among all the people and we must admit that we are thankful for the protection of the police to make this country a safe place to live.
Let those found guilty be punished by the law. Nobody is above the law.

Tun, will the time comes when those greatest CRIMINALS OF WAR on earth be tried and punished accordingly to the brutal and inhumane crimes they have committed? It won't be fair if they are free to roam the world with their dangerous minds and clenching fists to the small and the weak. They are very good in the craft of manipulation, aren't they Tun.

Take care Tun and May Allah Look Upon You Always.

hihi Tun, semoga sihat selalu.

manusia ada akal tapi takde hati itu teruk seperti yang dikatakan oleh tun, tapi orang yang takde akal atau akal separuh itu dasyat....

seperti muslim yang lain, tun hanya 100% membenci kepada orang bukan islam, jews, america, dan juga singapura, tak mahu tahu sejarah, yang tahu hanya, janji dia islam, dia orang baik, kalau dia bukan islam, maka dia jahat... senang betul cara tun berfikir... adakah konflik-2 yang berlaku di serata dunia begitu mudah ditafsir? begitu senang nak membezakan siapa betul dan siapa salah? kadang-2 suami isteri bergaduh pun kita susah nak kata siapa salah, jangan cakap israel-palestine yang berlaku sejak beribu-ribu tahun dahulu lagi...

saya begitu sedih bila mendengar tun cakap mahu berperang dengan israel, america dan singapura. buat mereka ketawa sahaja... tak tahu apa-apa then mahu perang, macam budak-budak nakal cakap mahu pukul cikgu... tun kan dulu PM, inikah akal yang dimiliki tun?

saya tidak memihak mana-mana pihak, saya cuma tahu yang derita adalah rakyat jelata. bolehkah kita semua abaikan puak, keturunan, agama dan berusaha untuk semua yang memerlukan bantuan?

jews dan arab memang hidup baik bersama. hanya ahli politik yang buat kecoh. sama seperti di malaysia, islam dan bukan islam hidup harmoni cuma orang-orang politik buat kacau...

Dear Tun Dr.Mahathir,

You are a well known champion for Muslims world and the muslims PATI in Sabah. I suppose you are very happy blogging as a retired PM as you have accompliced your mission to turn Sabah a haven for the muslims PATI? You didn't care who they were as long as they are muslims. The PATI in Sabah proudly say "saya dapat IC projek Presiden Mahathir". You thought that only the non-muslims will suffer when muslims outnumber them, but you mistaken dear Tun, your own muslims bloods are in worst situation than non-muslims excepts some UMNO muslims are in a comfortable life because they can built homes like JAILs. How many kampong folks killed by your PATI dear Tun? Most are muslims you didn't even know. How many local muslims children became thief, drug addicts, etc due to the influence by your PATI dear Tun? You didn't even know. Look at the populations in your JAILs throughout M'sia dear Tun, they are muslims majority. Count the drug addicts in the country dear Tun, you can't count the muslims with your fingers. So who's fault is this dear Tun? If you are not "MELAYU MUDAH LUPA" you clearly could remember, it's you. Nobody else cos Paklah is just the inheritor of your crime.

Hanan,

You may need to do some info-digging before you said anything again about Palestine-Israel conflict. The Palestinians and Israeli were doing just fine (live peacefully) before there is an ISRAEL state.

Try reading Muhammad Asad's and you'll find the root cause of this conflict. Perhaps you could see the two sides of your coin perfectly.

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Let there be PEACE, not PISSED.