1. Ancient China considered itself the centre of the world and called itself the Middle Kingdom. And well it should. It was far more advanced in every way than Europe of the Dark Ages. Maybe China is thinking of making a comeback.
2. But we already have a new Middle Kingdom now. During Lee Kuan Yew's triumphant visit to Malaysia he made it known to the Malaysian supplicants that Singapore regards the lands within 6000 miles radius of Singapore as its hinterland. This includes Beijing and Tokyo and of course Malaysia.
3. Of course this self-deluding perception places Singapore at the centre of a vast region. It is therefore the latter day Middle Kingdom. The rest are peripheral and are there to serve the interest of this somewhat tiny Middle Kingdom.
2. But we already have a new Middle Kingdom now. During Lee Kuan Yew's triumphant visit to Malaysia he made it known to the Malaysian supplicants that Singapore regards the lands within 6000 miles radius of Singapore as its hinterland. This includes Beijing and Tokyo and of course Malaysia.
3. Of course this self-deluding perception places Singapore at the centre of a vast region. It is therefore the latter day Middle Kingdom. The rest are peripheral and are there to serve the interest of this somewhat tiny Middle Kingdom.
4. Kuan Yew also explained that the fear Singapore Chinese would control Iskandar whatever is not justified. Malays can also work there. It is good to know that Malays can also work in their own country. I wonder as what? Maybe someone should make a study of the Malays of Singapore just to know what it is like to be a Malay minority in their own country.
5. As for the 3 sen per 1000 gallons of raw water supplied to Singapore Lee says it was absurd for the former Prime Minister of hinterland Malaysia to ask to increase it to RM8 per 1000 gallons. I don't know where he got this. Some Malaysian officers did suggest this figure but we were ready to bargain and maybe settle for RM3. And why not? Johore sells raw water to Melaka for 30 sen, 1000% higher than to Singapore. And Melaka is, I believe, a part of Malaysia! Some Malaysians may see the irony of this.
6. The great 5th Prime Minister has decided that since the people of Johore did not want to sell sand to Singapore, Malaysia would not build any bridge, straight or crooked, or negotiate and settle the other issues like the Central Provident Fund, the Railway land. Maybe the 5th Prime Minister thinks he is punishing Singapore. Actually he is giving Singapore what its wants including the 3 sen per 1000 gallons water until 2061. Think of how many grains of nasi lemak we can buy with 3 sen in 2061. Imagine what 1000 gallons will earn for Singapore at that time. Can't think of a more astute PM for Malaysia.
7. All those who met the great man from the little country were lectured on how Malaysia should be run. We should not have anymore problems now. We have been told the direction to take. MCA must help UMNO to win because Singapore does not want an Islamic Party like PAS to win. We must ensure this. Sorry PAS. Working with the DAP, the offspring of PAP has not endeared you to Mr Lee.
8. I have a lot more to say about this little Emperor but I will reserve it for later.
5. As for the 3 sen per 1000 gallons of raw water supplied to Singapore Lee says it was absurd for the former Prime Minister of hinterland Malaysia to ask to increase it to RM8 per 1000 gallons. I don't know where he got this. Some Malaysian officers did suggest this figure but we were ready to bargain and maybe settle for RM3. And why not? Johore sells raw water to Melaka for 30 sen, 1000% higher than to Singapore. And Melaka is, I believe, a part of Malaysia! Some Malaysians may see the irony of this.
6. The great 5th Prime Minister has decided that since the people of Johore did not want to sell sand to Singapore, Malaysia would not build any bridge, straight or crooked, or negotiate and settle the other issues like the Central Provident Fund, the Railway land. Maybe the 5th Prime Minister thinks he is punishing Singapore. Actually he is giving Singapore what its wants including the 3 sen per 1000 gallons water until 2061. Think of how many grains of nasi lemak we can buy with 3 sen in 2061. Imagine what 1000 gallons will earn for Singapore at that time. Can't think of a more astute PM for Malaysia.
7. All those who met the great man from the little country were lectured on how Malaysia should be run. We should not have anymore problems now. We have been told the direction to take. MCA must help UMNO to win because Singapore does not want an Islamic Party like PAS to win. We must ensure this. Sorry PAS. Working with the DAP, the offspring of PAP has not endeared you to Mr Lee.
8. I have a lot more to say about this little Emperor but I will reserve it for later.
Kepada saudara Ah Beng
Saya tak pernah menyesal lahir sebagai orang Melayu.
Mungkin pemahaman saudara mengenai Islam terlalu sedikit, nak tafsirkan sesuatu pun tak betul.Ceteknya ilmu saudara!!!
Kami memang mempercayai perkara ghaib malah wajib.
Memang ada saya dengar pendapat... orang bomoh orang dalam perniagaan Melayu malah selalu saya dengar. Perkara ni memang betul terjadi tapi saya rasa kalau seseorang individu tu iklas memohon perlindungan Tuhan pasti ia dilindungi juga dari kerja jahat bomoh2 . Lagi satu kerana percayakan Tuhanlah jadi adanya Tangan yang memberi lebih mulia dari tangan yang menerima maksudnya disini disisi Allah seseorang yang memberi sesuatu tu pangkatnya disisi Allah lebih mulia dan pangkat peminta sedekah jadi rendah...maka kalau tak nak pangkat kita di sisi Allah rendah jadi kene selalu berusaha, berusaha dan berusaha untuk berjaya.kalau nk tolong orang Melayu bagi mereka susuh itupun salah. Sebagai pemimpin dalam
Al-quran pun tanggungjawab besar, kalau cume nak bagi susah apa pula pemimpin ni nak jawap pada Tuhan bila dia meninggal dunia...takkan nk jawab semata-mata nk suruh maju saya bagi rakyat susah. Saya rasa orang Melayu ni perlu lebih belajar Al-Quran untuk lebih maju bukan duniaje malah akhirat. Semua dh ada dalam
Al-Quran..Contohi nabi Muahhammad SAW...Ibu saya cakap dunia ni ibarat penjara..orang yang merdeka dari penjara ini hanya orang yang dapat KEREDAAN ALLAH.
assalamualaikum Tun... semoga Tun berada dalam keadaan sihat sejahtera dan dirahmati Allah sentiasa.
Tun saya berasal dari Johor.
Saya rasa walaupun Singapura maju tapi rakyatnya terhimpit
mungkin mereka terpaksa maju. bayangkan untuk memperoleh lesen moto pun perlu bayar hampir RM 3000 banding di Malaysia hanya RM 211..kalau nak beli kereta pun boleh guna hanya beberapa tahun sahaja...lepas tu takleh pakai dah than kene beli kereta baru lagi.
Kalau beli rumah pula..lagi lain cerita.
Saya rasa isu air tu mungkin kita anggap sedekah sahajalah.
Semoga satu sedekah yang kita beri Allah gantikan dengan sepuluh kali ganda. Ada satu masa tapi saya tak ingat sangat bila..
Pasal isu air ni mereka kata nak gunakan air kitar semula..
Tapi saya terfikir, air kitar semula yang bukan secara semulajadi ni adakah ia suci lagi menyucikan.bolehke air dari kumbahan orangni diaorang guna semula untuk ambik air senbahyang?
Kalau di Malaysia ada juga tempat tadahan air, tapi di Singapura tiada gunung ganang. So memang terpaksa juga beli dari Malaysia.
Saya rasa dah tak releven lagi jual air harga 3 sen 1000 gelen.Tapi dah perjanjian mungkin nak sedapkan hati anggap sedekah je...Cume air yg mereka rawat tu tak perlu Malaysia beli semula, mungkin bila kita tak beli air..Mereka dh tak de tempat nk simpan air yang banyak tu jadi Singapura tak kan beli air dari malaysia dalam kuantiti yang banyak. Bila keadaan dh macam ni mereka pula akan minta bt perjanjian air yg baru...Saya fikirla tapi tak taula kalau Singapura boleh sampai jual air tu kt negara lain pula.
Sinagporean are stress people with tight population and pressured life.I did not see much room.no wander the smart one left.
now they pay COE for their vehicle,this and that
for everything,I am not surprise the next 10 years
you have to pay COE for your wife and sent them to scrap
if you can,t afford.
You got no say,they choke yr life not to make
you talk.They squeeze your balls if you manage to talk.
when you live they squeeze you your life,
upon death they take your organs away in the name of
charitable of saving mankind.BUT is the bills charitable on part
of them.Unfortunately Singaporean upon death,be it muslims,
christian, buddists or what your death name will be replace
by a serial no, you are just a product
corrupted govt or non corrupted govt makes no difference to me.
cause end of the day i still have to pay more for non corrupted
govt.
the difference in corrupted govt it goes to many pocket
may be little i have to pay,
with non corrupted govt
i cannot miss i have to pay more,and it goes to one pocket.
so what the hack,everybody is pretending good in public.
talk about meritrocracy they only talk but in real facts
facts reveals itself.so don,t listen to them
observe their doing.(cakap achi bunting pun bolih cakap)
corrupted govt or non corrupted govt makes no difference to me.
cause end of the day i still have to pay more for non corrupted
govt.
the difference in corrupted govt it goes to many pocket
may be little i have to pay,
with non corrupted govt
i cannot miss i have to pay more,and it goes to one pocket.
so what the hack,everybody is pretending good in public.
talk about meritrocracy they only talk but in real facts
facts reveals itself.so don,t listen to them
observe their doing.(cakap achi bunting pun bolih cakap)
orang melayu bangga dengan kebodohan mereka.
tanah mereka dikurnia rahmat dengan banyak hasil yg ada.
tapi gagal menghasilkan hasil yg dikurniakan.
bagaimana nak tolong orang melayu.
jawapannya kasi mereka susah,bukan dengan menghulurkan bantuan
seperti peminta sedekah,ini hari kasi besok minta lagi
sampai mereka mampus,dan dikuti keturunan mereka dari dulu sampai
sekarang.tangan memberi lebih mulia dari tangan yg menerima.
kepercayaan melayu pada ilmu ghaib,pada dukun sebagainya yg membodohkan mereka.semacam tak percayakan tuhan.alasan gagal
dalam perniagaan atau sebagainya dituduh kena buat orang.
sombong tak nak salahkan diri sendiri atas usaha yg kurang gigih
dan ilmu.anak melayu harus diajar bahasa english untuk menimba ilmu
dunia belajar alquran untuk akhirat,bukan dari terjemahan yg ada.
system pelajaran malaysia dan indonesia mesti berubah
ke bahasa english,namun bahasa ibunda tetap dijaga.
sedarilah ilmu sains,perubatan,pembangungan sekarang semuanya
hasil dari ilmu english.begitu juga orang islam diwajibkan
memahami alquran bukan setakat membaca atau belajar dari terjemahan.
tanpa ilmu manusia tak ke mana.bukan saja megejarkan dunia
megejarkan akhirat pun perlu ilmu dan ini dituntut agama islam
begitu sedih melihat nasib orang melayu.
orang putih mati tinggalkan nama
orang cina mati tinggalkan harta
orang melayu mati tinggal berangan
(tak kan melayu hilang di bumi),kata hang tuah
tapi sayang Hang tuah siang siang menghilangkan diri
taat pada raja kerana raja selalu nak bertina bukanlah laksamana
Berani menegatkan kebenaran,bangsa dan ugama adalah wira laksamana
BIG-TIME SEX TRADE IN SIN......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5N7tMa2phQ
GANGA'S BLOG.....must read.......
http://gangasudhan.com/blog/2009/05/uniquely-singapore-one-low-iq-boy-vs.html
TAN LEONG HONG'S STORY.......
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LEGAL TERRORISM IN SINGAPORE By Tang Liang Hong
Scary innovation in law of trust is taking shape
Hearing between 9-13 November 1998 in Singapore High Court
To determine 13 Mareva Injunctions by Lee Kuan Yew & orders against my wife Mdm Teo Siew Har
The Singapore High Court will commence hearing from next Monday till Friday the 9-13 November 1998 to decide the claims by Lee Kuan Yew and other cabinet ministers of the Singapore People’s Action Party’s (PAP) government against my wife, Madam Teo Siew Har in respect of her assets seized by them under 13 Mareva injunctions which were obtained by deceitful, misleading and false statement under oath/affirmation (a crime of perjury with mandatory jail sentence upon conviction ) by PAP leaders in their affidavits in support of their applications for the injunctions, that I had caused the release of my police report to the press for publication. I shall explain further this event below.
To pump fears into the minds of Singaporeans has been a key policy of the PAP government. With the subtle collaboration from the judiciary, the PAP government not only has extensively used legal actions against its opposition , but also has used them against members of their family and their assets, with a view to harass and cow its opponents into submission. It has implemented this policy of creating fears in the minds of its people openly so as to achieve the desired effect of frightening away all potential opposition to the PAP, so that it may remain in power forever. As an opposition I have refused to be cowed into submission, and consequently, my wife and our children, have thus been publicly put to much sufferings and made to taste the bitterness of a broken home in Singapore.
Below are some background facts which show as to how the PAP leaders, being politicians in power, have abused their executive powers illegally and cruelly, in throwing my wife into the legal typhoon generated and designed by them to crush her.
1, The Cabinet’s decision to ‘debunk and to demolish’ me
The Singapore opposition political party, the Workers’ Party on 23 December 1996 announced that I was one of its candidates for the General Election to be held on 2 January 1997. The cabinet members of the People’s Action Party (PAP) government, according to Lee Kuan Yew own statement under oath in court, discussed my "strange appearance" as a candidate and decided that I must be "debunked and demolished" quickly to stop the Chinese-educated Chinese to rekindle their fire of hope to come back to the Singapore political arena. They also discussed the way and means to demolish me. To the PAP, it is a matter of course that the Chinese-educated Chinese, being the majority in number in Singapore, must be continually marginalized in politics in Singapore. Under all circumstances, I must not be given any chance to speak up for them to raise their hope.
2. Mischievous Massive Smear Campaign
Immediately after Christmas Day, Lee Kuan Yew, Goh Chok Tong and other PAP ministers and leaders, through the powerful public media under their absolute control, started its massive propaganda campaign against me and charged that I was an anti-Christian, anti-Islam, anti-Malay, and anti-English-educated Chinese chauvinist and that my views and ideas would eventually cause religious conflicts and would disrupt social and racial harmony in Singapore and would lead to bloodshed in Singapore as what had taken place in Sri Lanka, Rwanda and elsewhere. These kinds of baseless accusations against me in such a massive way in a multi-lingual, multi-racial and multi-religious society like Singapore, immediately put me and my family in danger and at the same time, they were laying the grounds for my arrest under the Internal Security Act under which I can be arrested and detained for a very long time without trial. Of course, if some misguided religious extremists would harm me and get rid of me for them as a result of PAP’s false accusations, it would have been better for them.
3. Abuse of Legal Process with the Collaboration from Singapore public media and the police
When interviewed by a reporter from the Singapore Straits Times inviting me to make response to PAP’s attacks, I denied their aforesaid false accusations and said that they were lying and that I would lodge a police report against them for that. Lee Kuan Yew and others sued me immediately for defamation for saying that. Immediately we received anonymous letters from persons claiming to be Christians and Muslims threatening to harm me and my family. On the 1 January 1997, I made a police report against 11 PAP leaders and sought police protections for me and members of my family. To my surprise, copy of my police report appeared in the Singapore press the next day. Lee Kuan Yew and son Lee Hsien Loong and Goh Chok Tong and all others named in my police report sued me for defamation for the publication of my police report in the press. Many people were shocked in August 1997 when Goh Chok Tong disclosed in court under cross-examination by George Carmen QC from London that he (Goh Chok Tong) was the one who had ordered the Minister for Home Affairs Wong Kun Seng to report to him immediately should I make a police report as I had declared earlier and that the Singapore police had given copy of my police report to Goh Chok Tong and Lee Kuan Yew within two hours from my making it for their political purposes and for them to release to the press and for their instituting legal actions against me. Goh Chok Tong further disclosed that it was he who authorised Lee Kuan Yew to release my police report to the public media in Singapore for publication. As a result of this publication, Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP leaders instituted further actions against me for defamation. It became clear that many of their statements of claim and many of their affidavits filed in court in support of their applications, including their applications for Mareva injunctions and for assessments of damages against me and or my wife were false and misleading. The law enforcement agencies have so far kept quiet about it. The rule of law of Singlish brand has double standard and is therefore unique. Singapore journalists have filed about 50 affidavits to support the PAP leaders’ claims against me and my wife. But none of them had the decency to disclose the fact that it was Lee Kuan Yew who had given them my police report for their publication. Some of these journalists will come to court on 9-13 November 1998 to help the PAP leaders to ‘legally’ establish a bogey trust against my wife’s assets.
4. Flee for Dear Life and Freedom
On the 2 January 1997, the Workers’ Party team of candidates ( Mr. J.B. Jeyaretnam, myself and three others) lost narrowly to the PAP team for the Cheng San Constituency. While I was on my way home in the early morning on the 3 January after the results of the Election were announced, my car was closely followed by several cars belonging to the secret police officers from the Internal Security Department. I managed to get away from them after an exciting car race on Singapore roads in the early morning. I did not go home that day. In the late afternoon, to avoid arrest, I managed to slip out of Singapore and went to Johor Bahru of Malaysia after a press conference given by the Workers’ Party in the after noon that day.
5. The Singapore Court instantly Striking out my Applications to Strike Out
Soon after, I was in London actively making preparations for my defences and counter-claims against the PAP leaders. At the advice of my Queen’s Counsel, I filed applications in Court to strike out the PAP leaders’ multiple defamation suits on the ground of ‘abuse of legal process’ by their misusing of the law of defamation to oppress political opposition. I also applied for a short extension of time to file my defences should my applications to strike out fail. My applications were filed late in the afternoon on 23 January 1997. Just within an hour or so, my law firm was surprisingly informed by the Court Registry that my said applications had been fixed for hearing in the early morning next day. On 24 January, all my applications were thrown out by the court and I was ordered to pay costs, on the ground that my applications were ‘an abuse of legal process instead ‘ and unconventionally disallowed any extension of time to me, not even for a day, to enable me to organise my defences. My law firm had to rush to file my defences before 4 p.m. that day to avoid judgements in default of defence to be entered against me. If I were to appeal on these decisions, I would be put to incur expensive legal costs and disbursements which I could not afford to meet. I disclosed publicly that I was going to sell my assets to fight them in courts, the PAP leaders distorted it into accusation against me and my wife that we were taking steps to remove our assets out of Singapore
6. To totally paralyse us financially with a view to destroy our resistant strength
On 27 January 1998, the PAP Government demonstrated its prowess in its attack against its opposition. On that evening, my wife together with my daughter intended to pay a visit to my personal good friend, Mr. Abdul Razak Ahmad at his home in Johor Bahru during Ramadan fasting month. They were stopped at the Singapore exit point at the causeway by immigration officers who disallowed them to leave Singapore. They searched my wife’s handbag and confiscated her passport. On her return home at midnight from the immigration office at the causeway, a group of lawyers representing Lee Kuan Yew and the other PAP leaders in their multiple defamation suits against me, were waiting for my wife at our doorstep. It turned out that on that the PAP leaders had obtained 13 Mareva Injunctions against us on the ground (alleged by Lee Kuan Yew in his affidavit without evidence or poor quality of evidence if the were evidence at all). These injunctions froze all my assets up to the limit of S$ 11.2 million and demanded that I had to disclose my assets on a world basis under oath. Those lawyers also served on her copies of 13 Writs of Summonses (including HPL case for which I was allowed to engage a Queen’s counsel in June 1996 ). The 13 Mareva injunctions also made my wife a second defendant of the 13 lawsuits against me for defamation which do not concern her at all. The13 Mareva injunction orders also froze all her assets on a world wide basis up to the limit of S$ 11.2 million. The injunction orders also demanded her to disclose all her assets by way of an affidavit to be filed with 4 days from 27 January 1998. Lee Kuan Yew alleged without any basis that my wife had held all her assets as trustee for me. But that kind of bare allegation of trust and the offensive allegation that Johor Bahru of Malaysia was a crime-infested place together with the lie that I had caused my police report against them to be released to the press for publication thereby damaging their reputation seriously and that I was therefore liable for huge damages for defamation, as made by and as contained in Lee Kuan Yew’s affidavit in support of his application for Mareva injunction orders were accepted by Judge Lai Kew Chai in total as good ground and evidence for granting the 13 Mareva injunction orders against us. J. Lai created legal history by granting Mareva injunction in the law of defamatiom before judgement. In fact this move was nothing more than just a part of a financial cold turkey operation, with a view to freeze all our financial source to paralyse our financial strength to resist their attacks by way of legal actions.
Chinese Cultural Revolution re-run in Singapore
When these lawyers left our home after having served the injunction orders on my wife, a battalion of Inland Revenue Officials stormed into our house and ransacked our home. They carted away tons of documents and articles from us. They also carried out simultaneously similar raid at my office in the city. Up to date they have not returned any item of documents or articles seized from us.
On 28 April 1998, when applying to expunge his offensive statements from his affidavit after having apologised twice to the Malaysian government and people for having made those offensive statements, Lee Kuan Yew disclosed that my wife’s passport was cancelled because the PAP leaders would otherwise not be able to recover damages from me if she was allowed to leave Singapore as she, as alleged by him, had held assets as trustee for me. This was a blatant abuse of Executive power for private litigation. When Lee Kuan Yew could not get at me, so he got hold of my wife and her assets and her passport to limit her personal freedom. An oriental gentleman for Asian values indeed.
Multiplying legal costs to paralyse us financially
(1) I did not comply these 13 Mareva injunction orders as I knew that they were just traps laid for me. I knew very well that no matter how much efforts and care that I would put in the preparation of a list of my assets, it would certainly contain some kind of mistakes or omissions which in turn would be more than sufficient grounds for any Singapore court to convict me for cheating or perjury. I would be turned into a criminal instantly. I had to make a choice between two devils. I decided not to prepare my list of assets as demanded on me by the 13 Mareva injunction orders, running the risk of being in contempt of court. On 17 February 1998, the PAP leaders obtained 13 more orders for appointment of receiver to take over all my assets, including my law firm’s accounts which eventually caused the collapse and closure of my legal firm. They in fact served the 13 applications for appointment of receiver over my wife’s assets on my law firm in the afternoon and the hearing for such applications were fixed for hearing at 5 p.m. that very same day. My wife could not find any lawyers in town in such a short notice willing to act for her. She applied for a short adjournment to enable to get a lawyer to act for her and to explain to her what the applications were all about. Judge Lai Kew Chai refused her application and she finally broke down and cried in court. Mr Davinder Singh, counsel for Lee Kuan Yew however remarked that my wife was trying to win the court’s sympathy by her tears. By this order, my wife’s entire assets in Singapore were frozen and taken over by the receiver, including her house, her bank accounts and her joint accounts with our children and her niece (her sister’s daughter).
(2) The Singapore court refused our respective applications to have the multiple lawsuits to be consolidated. In addition, they intentionally separated the cases against my wife’s cases from those against me so we had to engage two sets of lawyers to multiply our legal costs and expenditure. We ended up to have to face 13 sets of lawsuits each, totalling 26 sets of them. We had to face 26 sets of costs whenever making applications, such as making applications to consolidate our cases or to get a London Queen’s counsel to represent us or making appeals or otherwise. We always failed in whatever applications we made and the PAP leaders would always succeed in whatever applications they chose to make. We as a matter of certainty had to pay them costs. In this way, we have already spent and incurred hundreds of thousands of dollars by way of costs and disbursements. As a matter of fact, we have been fighting them with our hands tied. We do not have unlimited resources of funds to continue to face the legal battles mounted on us by them.
Emergency night-sitting to pre-empt Queen’s counsel coming from London
I remained however determined to fight the lawsuits. I made an application to stop Justice Lai Kew Chai from presiding over the cases against me on the ground of apparent bias, as J. Lai was an ex partner in the law firm of Mrs Lee Kuan Yew and a family friend of the Lee family. In addition, Justice Lai himself together with Lee Kuan Yew and son and members of their family and relatives were among the so-called "early-bird purchasers" of the HPL property. The early-birds purchasers obtained deep discounts from HPL when they purchased the HPL property. Goh Chok Ton had said earlier that the involvement of Lee Kuan Yew and son in HPL property needed to be investigated. The father and son sued me for defamation for raising a query, when approached by a reporter from a Hongkong weekly in May 1996, as to why the matter was not referred to the Corruption Practice Investigation Bureau (CPIB). As J. Lai was also one of the early-bird purchasers, I therefore objected to his being the trial judge and therefore applied for him to be replaced another judge.. The PAP leaders made counter applications to strike out all my defences (including the HPL case) for not filing my list of assets as ordered by J. Lai. All these applications were fixed by the High court registry for hearing before J. Lai himself on 10 March 1997. My counsel, Mr. Jeyaretnam applied for a short adjournment so that Mr. Gray QC, who represented me in the HPL case, could fly from London immediately to appear on my behalf. J. Lai after lengthy arguments from the parties, refused the adjournment application and also refused to recluse himself from hearing the cases. When J. Lai made the decisions, it was already late in the evening. However, the hearing of the applications by Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP leaders to striking out my defences, were urgently fixed for decision before another judge immediately that very night, so that my Queen’s counsel could not come to Singapore in time to represent me and so that Lee Kuan Yew and son could avoid being cross-examined by my Queen’s counsel on HPL affairs. During that emergency night-hearing, Justice Goh Joon Seng struck out all my defences as expected.
Function of Singapore courts to furnish legal cover of legitimacy
Of course, the powerful Singapore public media -- the PAP propaganda machinery announced to the whole world that Lee Kuan Yew and the PAP leaders had fought and won a "legal" battles in their defamation suits against me. This is the type of "legal cover" of legitimacy the PAP government has always sought for their illegitimate actions against their opposition in Singapore.
11. The Receiver has been acting in conflict of Interests
Mr. Nicky Tan of Price Waterhouse, Singapore was appointed as the receiver on 17 February 1997 over my estate and the estate of my wife. He was an official of the court and owed an equal duty of care to me and my wife. He however acted in a totally biased and prejudicial manner against my wife’s interests throughout. He delayed in the payment of salaries to the staffs of my law firm and weekly allowance of one thousand dollars to my wife as ordered by the court, from my accounts under his in his control and management thereby causing her tremendous hardship at a time when all our assets were frozen. In his capacity as a receiver with certain privileges as an official of the court, he however was going all out at our costs and disbursements to collect evidence for Lee Kuan Yew and the PAP leaders, by collecting evidence with a view of helping them to establish the alleged trust my wife was a bare trustee for me in respect of her assets. He objected to my wife’s applications in court to sell her house by way of public auction or by private treaty respectively in March and April 1997, on the ground that public tender would fetch a better price for it. He also refused potential buyers obtained by my daughter for the house. He allowed the value of the property to continue to fall and interest on the mortgage loan to continue to mount without any benefit to anyone except to the prejudice of my wife’s interest. He only attempted to sell the property by public tender towards the end of 1997 when, according to him, there was no bidder at all for the house.
The PAP leaders have indicated that they will not be coming to court to give evidence personally. To me it is clear that they do not want to subject them to be cross-examined in court for this absurd against my wife. In this coming hearing fixed on 9-13 November 1998, The receiver is going to be the star witness for the PAP leaders’ claims against my wife. The PAP leaders are obviously making use of the international standing of his reputable firm to do a dirty job.
12. The Mortgagee Bank has also gone cranky
(1) My wife’s mortgagee bank is Overseas Chinese Banking Corporation (OCBC). Since I slipped out of Singapore on 3 January 1997, my wife had not serviced the interest of the mortgage loan on her house and she was taking active steps to sell her house and to redeem the mortgage loan. This is the only way to pay off the bank. Her efforts were frustrated when Lee Kuan Yew and others slammed her with the injunction order which ordered that only the receiver had the sole right of sale. Her applications to the court for an order to allow her to sell the property was opposed by the receiver. This however did not affect the right of sale by OCBC as secured creditor. For more than one year, the bank refused to exercise its right of sale notwithstanding my wife’s repeated requests. Now, the market value of the property has dropped below the loan and interest.
Mortgagee in breach of banking secrecy
(2) In addition, several senior officers of the Bank, in contradiction to banking law which demands banking secrecy in banking transactions, have filed several affidavits in support of Lee Kuan Yew’s allegation of trust. They are coming to court this coming hearing to give evidence to assist Lee Kuan Yew to make claim to the property of my wife against the interest of the bank as her mortgagee. One can only find such kind of cranky conduct from bankers in Singapore. To understand this, one has to realise that Dr. Tony Tan is also one of the PAP leaders who sue me. He together with his uncle holds l substantial share interest in OCBC. He was the bank’s executive chairman before he went back to join the PAP’s cabinet as its deputy Prime Minister and the Minister for Defence. Another PAP leader suing me is Lee Hsien Loong, son of Lee Kuan Yew. He is also another deputy Prime Minister cum Head of the Monetary Authority of Singapore which is in charge of and be responsible for the issuance or cancellation of banking licences in Singapore.
(3) Political Culture affects Banking Transactions in Singapore
Any body having knowledge of political culture in Singapore knows very well that Banks have to act very carefully so as not to invoke any displeasure of from the PAP otherwise political mines will definitely explode and blast them to pieces. The bank for more than a year, refused to sell my wife’s property notwithstanding repeated requests from my wife who could no long service the interest and the fact that I, as her guarantee to the bank, had left Singapore and had faced a judgement entered against me by Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP’s leaders, in a sum more than $ 8 millions ( later in September 97 reduced to $3.8 excluding legal costs). OCBC only sued my wife in August 1998 when the entire loan and the interest had exceeded the market value of her property. The Singapore High Court however has refused to allow her to dispute liability for the entire amount of interest and to counterclaim for damages arising from the very extraordinary and unreasonable conduct on its part in the transaction. My wife is in the course of filing her appeal against the decision of the high court on this. She has thus been put to expenses again. The most sinister part of it is that my wife will eventually be made to appear to having been crushed and her assets taken away by a seemingly commercial bank in the ordinary banking transactions without any smack of political manoeuvre.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaLaeDN4t2U
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6V7M6nXxKk&feature=related
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MISERABLES OF SINGAPORE!!!
http://vodpod.com/watch/1419027-miserables-in-singapore?pod=soci
DEMENTOR LKY AND CORRUPTION,,,,,,,
http://singabloodypore.rsfblog.org/archive/2009/07/14/lee-kuan-yew-and-corruption-singapore-style.html#more
FINANCIAL SYSTEM,,,,,,,
http://wherebearsroamfree.blogspot.com/2009/07/singapore-americas-clone-or-clown.html
BURMA CONNECTION,,,,,,,
http://yoursdp.org/index.php/component/content/article/2552-gohs-propaganda-
THE ELDERLY STILL TRYING TO REAP THE FRUITS OF THIER HARD WORK,,,,,
http://www.tiresias.org/research/guidelines/legislation.htm
HARD TIMES FOR FOR THE DISABLED,,,,,
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2009/07/recession-forces-minds-to-cut-%e2%80%9callowances%e2%80%9d-paid-to-disabled/#_ftnref2
,,,, AND WHAT OTHER DEVELOPED AND DEVELOPING COUNTRIES PROVIDE,,,,,
http://www.tiresias.org/research/guidelines/legislation.htm
Dear Tun,
By Malaysian kidAuthor Profile Page on July 13, 2009 3:39 AM
Comment:
Are you for real?...or did your dad asked you to write it down....take my advise don't make a fool of yourself here, do something worthwhile......go fly a kite or something.
Denial syndrome in the republic
By Dato from Malaysiakini
I refer to the letter ‘Singapore not as bad as portrayed‘. It looks like the writer is certainly a Singaporean and needs, like all people of every country, to protect their nation’s image.
Granted what he says about every country not being perfect, but he should not, like the better or rather more affluent Singaporean, push under the carpet what is very obvious that poverty and trying to earn a living in Singapore for a lot of people is difficult.
It is this need to ignore, explain and turn their heads away arrogantly that allows this group of people living in poverty to continue to suffer.
Let’s not kid around, all countries of any repute provides basic medical attention, and Singapore is not different, but when it comes to expensive treatment or special treatment, I think he should get his facts right, because the hospital will not dish this out for free. Instead I know of many folks who have been turned away just because one member of the family earns SGD1,500 and this disqualifies them from many social services help, like disabled needs, autistic people getting treatment and so on.
There are also many poverty-stricken blocks of apartments, notorious for their people who live in abject poverty in rat holes they call apartments. Two, maybe three small rooms, and when we say small, trust me, it is small.
I now ask the writer to explain the existence of the ‘Karang Guni’ people and the location they operate in near Sim Lim tower. Maybe he can explain to us Malaysians what is ‘Karang Guni’.
To me their existence only means that poverty exists and openly, as otherwise the government should ban this shocking culture. In many countries they are known as “scavengers” who get their stuff from dumps, throwaways and so on, and then sell them.
So tell us, the ‘Mahathir Malaysians’, a little more about Singapore. Tell us how Lee Kuan Yew bankrupts the opposition, rather then throw them in jail. Tell us why one person protesting is considered an assembly? Tell us about the famous JB Jeyaratnam who died practically in poverty, a few months after settling his bankruptcy payments.
Admit your country’s shortcomings. Just go to some of the Mcdonald’s outlets and you will wonder why Singaporeans, in their 60s and 70s, working there, doing cleaning jobs. I was told it was to keep them busy, but in reality, they need the job to survive.
In Malaysia, we are turning things around with regards to poverty. Our poverty eradication programmes, NGOs and many organisations are doing a good job
Denial syndrome in the republic
By Dato from Malaysiakini
I refer to the letter ‘Singapore not as bad as portrayed‘. It looks like the writer is certainly a Singaporean and needs, like all people of every country, to protect their nation’s image.
Granted what he says about every country not being perfect, but he should not, like the better or rather more affluent Singaporean, push under the carpet what is very obvious that poverty and trying to earn a living in Singapore for a lot of people is difficult.
It is this need to ignore, explain and turn their heads away arrogantly that allows this group of people living in poverty to continue to suffer.
Let’s not kid around, all countries of any repute provides basic medical attention, and Singapore is not different, but when it comes to expensive treatment or special treatment, I think he should get his facts right, because the hospital will not dish this out for free. Instead I know of many folks who have been turned away just because one member of the family earns SGD1,500 and this disqualifies them from many social services help, like disabled needs, autistic people getting treatment and so on.
There are also many poverty-stricken blocks of apartments, notorious for their people who live in abject poverty in rat holes they call apartments. Two, maybe three small rooms, and when we say small, trust me, it is small.
I now ask the writer to explain the existence of the ‘Karang Guni’ people and the location they operate in near Sim Lim tower. Maybe he can explain to us Malaysians what is ‘Karang Guni’.
To me their existence only means that poverty exists and openly, as otherwise the government should ban this shocking culture. In many countries they are known as “scavengers” who get their stuff from dumps, throwaways and so on, and then sell them.
So tell us, the ‘Mahathir Malaysians’, a little more about Singapore. Tell us how Lee Kuan Yew bankrupts the opposition, rather then throw them in jail. Tell us why one person protesting is considered an assembly? Tell us about the famous JB Jeyaratnam who died practically in poverty, a few months after settling his bankruptcy payments.
Admit your country’s shortcomings. Just go to some of the Mcdonald’s outlets and you will wonder why Singaporeans, in their 60s and 70s, working there, doing cleaning jobs. I was told it was to keep them busy, but in reality, they need the job to survive.
In Malaysia, we are turning things around with regards to poverty. Our poverty eradication programmes, NGOs and many organisations are doing a good job
KUMAR ON SINGAPORE COMEDY....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfVpwvkgaUw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_gBlfFrLiE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swr4eGnY6Xw&feature=related
I am not impressed by you putting such comments about leaders of the neighbourhood Doctor Mahathir.
First, are there any concrete proof and evidence showing Lee Kuan Yew behaves like "little emperor" during his visit in Malaysia only seeking for business opportunities?
Second, can you show us any concrete proof that Malay Minorities in Singapore are poor? And in terms of removing poverties and economical inequalities between races, do you personally think that Malaysia has done better than Singapore?
I hope for an explaination of above to questions. Even tough I have such feeling that you will ignore this comment. But I would like to put it up still.
Tun,
I think it is pointless to keep attacking Singapore. Whether we like it or not, they are progressing. In the 60s, the Singapore currency is lower than Malaysia, we were flocking there to buy cheap goods. Now? They are coming to Malaysia to buy cheap houses, lands and goods. Within 30 years, they had overtaken us and they continue to move forward.
Take Singapore as our ENEMY - THAT IS FINE. BUT to overtake our "enemy" we have to understand their strength and weaknesses. We should learn from their strength and make sure we do not repeat their weaknesses. Nothing wrong to learn from the ENEMY in order the "conquer" them. have we done anything except all the name calling? which never bring us anywhere.
For the passed more than 30 years in Malaysia, we have seen various cronies sucking up Rakyat's money, government spent money to save ill-managed corporations, racists politicians churned up racial issues to gain political power, yet the majority of the Rakyat, including the Malays masses are remained as poor, not benefited from the NEP. We see only a small group of UMNOPUTRA gaining huge benefits from the political power.
Look at our "great leader" Toyo, how he abused his power, look at our Port Klang scandal, how many cronies are involved, until now, no one seems to responsible? the list goes on endless. Tun, I am sure you know best, all these are your former staff, nurtured by you, Toya is specially hand-picked by you.
I think it is time you should correct all these scandals, you are partly responsible since you were the PM for 22 years, PLEASE EXPOSE THEM, QUESTION THEM AND CORRECT THEM. i BELIEVE WE ALL WANT TO MAKE MALAYSIA PROGRESSIVE, MY LOVE TO THIS HOMELAND IS NOT LESS THAN YOU OR ANY PATRIOTIC MALAYSIAN.
Same as everyone, I want a Progressive Malaysia and abe a proud MALAYSIAN. However, I am only a small fly, cannot do much.
TUN, IF YOU ARE SINCERELY DO SOMETHING, I will fully support you.
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In this meritocracy, there's no time to smell the roses
I REFER to Thursday's letter by Mr Anil Bhatia, 'Wealthy and yet unhappy - how come, Singapore?'
There is a systemic flaw in our meritocratic system where we strive to be the best in everything, in meeting wants, in careers, in infrastructure. In the process, our human capital is put through various stress tests from a young age until retirement and even the grave.
The young are put to a stress test the minute they start formal education at primary level with homework and remedial classes. School holidays are filled with more lessons, remedial classes and co-curricular activities for upper secondary students. To gain entry to top junior colleges or polytechnics, students must achieve an aggregate score of eight points or less, compared to 10 to 15 points years earlier. How not to be stressed out?
Young adults struggle with work from demanding bosses who expect 24/7 due diligence from employees. Many in this age group struggle to acquire material wealth at the expense of pro-family, procreation activities. Mature workers worry about job security and those who are retrenched often remain chronically unemployed for a long while. Many in this age group (45 to 55) are most vulnerable, with massive expenses to take care of, such as children's education, housing loans, elderly parents' medical bills and retirement expenses. How to be happy?
The elderly are also vulnerable as their children may fall into the mature age group who are either struggling to maintain their livelihoods or unemployed.
With little financial support from their children, many are forced to work as cleaners or do other manual work with their limited skills. Retirees who have exhausted their Central Provident Fund savings are forced to go back to work with limited scope of employment in the current economic climate.
There is hardly any stage in the human cycle where we can slow down and make an effort to smell the roses in society.
Roland Ang
Smell what roses? The only scent you can smell in my Hotel Sinkapore is the constant methane fart from my SPH propaganda factory
Dearest Tun, and readers,
Honestly? I doubt any non bumi(s) would actually want to overthrow our Sultan/King in Malaysia.
"Kesetiaan Kepada Raja dan Negara"
Means: Loyalty to the King and Country.
The whole point of us voicing out our opinion usually ends up being "disloyal" but the true fact is that what we say gets misinterpreted and bombastically politicize what was suppose to meant
"We need some room to breathe... without hurting you."
which is translated into:
"We don't want to breathe the same air as you."
Which is what the media and some politicians who are Ethnocentric usually politicize to be a Hero.
Honestly, we non bumis have been in Malaysia since even before the Melakka Kingdom was established. We have no interest to overthrow our king who has provided us shelter, protection and some opportunity to develop here. No, I don't think we are so greedy to steal our neighbor's rice bowl. Although, I do not deny there are some selfish people amongst us who does it for their personal gain. Those are the very few whom have been made into the so called "Majority".
My best friend since high school was a Malay, and in College too was a Malay. As friends, we usually mix around with other friends from difference backgrounds and trust me nothing about "How rich and powerful I wanna be" ever came across our mind.
We the non-Bumi and the Bumi, really aren't having any bad terms as others would imagine, foreigners can come to Malaysia and be surprised how well we live amongst our neighbors and friends from different races.
It's true that there are minor conflicts between certain group of people and political views. But have we Malaysians really sat down and think? We do not have a civil warfare, nor do we have anything severe as Ethnic Cleansing.
To the Bumis who felt threatened because of what the others say, please remember this proverb (Direct translation)
"A bow on the wall mistaken as a snake's shadow in a cup"
Means: Feeling threatened by thinking that there is a snake in the cup, when it's actually a reflection of a bow on the wall.
While the Non-Bumis too should practice self constrain when trying to voice opinion and always read between the lines of what is written in the media. Channel your opinions to the community leaders, if that doesn't help, try speaking to a Bumi leader who I believe would be more than happy to help a fellow Malaysian. If all else fails, just vote for someone you believe who can really champion the people's voice. (NOT RACIAL VOICE)
MCA has always been viewed as a "YES MAN" to the Government, and MIC too has always been viewed to be a follower to the Government. The fact remains, if MCA and MIC don't champion the people's voice ... Opposition like DAP, PKR, and PAS (major ones) would champion the people's voice. Racial voice is what the "Extremist" from the political side would usually use, becoming a champion of their RACE instead of the people.
I sincerely hope that, a day would come and there would no need to have such "Racial" champions ... To whom I believe is only championing their personal interest. Perhaps, certain groups of politicians Should not spend to much money on personal gains, 3 million on a luxurious bungalow ? Why not spend 3 million to help your own people? I'm sure that 3 million would have benefited a whole lot of people, Bumis or non Bumis.
Confucious, when he was appointed as a government official only lived in a simple shack. When asked why he wouldn't live in luxury like other officials, he simply replied ...
"A civil servant shouldn't be richer than the people, as his sole purpose should only be to serve the people and have just enough for himself to survive. If the people are in poverty, and the officials are Fat and rich, it would mean something obvious is wrong in the governance system."
If I were a Politician with a Monthly income of Rm 30k or even 10k I would spend only 2 ~ 4k on my living expenses and donate the remaining to help the people around me. As the pay I'm receiving is the people's money and it obviously belongs to the people. But sadly, the truth is always people get greedy and refuse to live by the principle they set. (Hence, should I be a politician someday, this would be my reminder)
So, I hope that the vision of 1Malaysia truly happens when we are not discriminated or categorized as being Chinese, Indian, Melayu, dan Lain lain. We don't want to be a King, we just want to work with the Bumis to reach greater heights.
If Singapore things by sidelining the Malay minorities is the right thing to do, then let us show them that we Malaysians working hand in hand regardless of races, is capable to out last them in the longer run.
There would be a time when Singapore would run out of resources, and that's the time they would realize how small they really are compared to the bigger picture of the world.
Your sincerely,
A Malaysian with a Dream
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I’m not from Malaysia, actually from an European country that’s not speaking English. I married with a Malaysian woman and have two children, all born in Malaysia (1 in primary 4 and 1 in primary 2). I’m really in love with Malaysia especially Sarawak, I said NO, because Malaysia going backward not forward as it should be for the 2020 vision, a developed country is not only the infrastructures and other, the most important to my point of view is the HUMAN CAPITAL. So now the governments stop teaching math & science in English, in that case the people (the Malaysian), especially the students won’t have the chance in their life to learn and get the chance to compete again others, from other countries (just go back to their parent land, for the fortunate one, and plant rice, tapping rubber, etc…) or its going to be only the rich people or those who can afford it to pay tuitions or send their children in private school even overseas, just sorry to said, but Bahasa Malaysia is to general, it doesn’t have specific words like English or other languages, I have read many articles since the announcement, and I’m agree with one of them it should have be done by a referendum, only the parent have the right to decide the future of their children not a minority of people. I have seen also in TV, the people who were against the teaching in English, interviewed and worse! They were speaking in English; just tell me where the point is? Mr. Tun please tries to convince them
THE DAILY MORNING PLEDGE OF THE MODERN MIDDLE KINGDOM....
We the Ministers of THE MODERN MIDDLE KINGDOM,
Pledge ourselves as one united Syndicate,
Regardless of GRC, Salary or Office,
To build a Bureaucratic empire,
Based on Nepotism and Elitism,
So as to achieve Happiness, Prosperity
and Power for the Dementor Familee.
CONTRADICATION....BOOK PUBLISHER BLUR!!!
http://singaporeanskeptic.blogspot.com/2009/04/minister-contradicts-himself-again.html
, July 8, 2009 fm SINGAPORE SKEPTIC extract
Singapore regressing back into the Third World?
Barely a decade after achieving 'developed' status in Singapore, it seems that some people are saying that we are moving back to our pre-developed status.
First, we have our dear old Lee Kuan Yew reminding us, in April this year, that we are not developed[link]. Now, we have a Malaysian (Malaysiakini) telling us that we Singaporeans live miserable lives. He talks about Singapore citizens living in Third World conditions,like poor peasants, with no electricity and with barely enough to eat because they can't afford the high cost of living in Singapore. Our social policies are really bad partly because of a lack of a social safety net. It makes no difference for the poor whether Singapore is a developed country or not.
It is not just our social policies that are Third World, it seems that some people believe our economic policies are Third World too. You have Kenneth Jeyaretnam, son of JBJ and a former hedge fund manager, who says that our economic policies are like that. In a recent speech at the Foreign Correspondence Association lunch, he mentions that our growth for the past few years depended on the input of cheap labour and low consumption.
As a result of the input of cheap labour, the productivity of the work-force stagnated and fell. Unlike a developed country that produces high-end value-added goods, we have nothing of value to add except cheap labour; which is unsustainable. If a foreign MNC decides to leave Singapore, it is not because we voted for the opposition (like the PAP say) but because we have nothing of value to offer the rest of the world. Whose fault is that? Who was responsible for the total control of our economic policy over the past decade? Who was responsible for our decline in productivity and our reliance on cheap (usually foreign) labour?
According to Kenneth Jeyaretnam, our domestic consumption has been driven down to the same levels as China. Skeptic wonders whether it is because there are a lot of PRCs in Singapore. :) But seriously, what is the point of having high growth when we live a hand to mouth existence?
If things get too bad, we may have to export people to look for jobs overseas, just like the Philippines.
Here is an excerpt of his speech. The full speech can be found here.
Kenneth Jeyaretnam
"In some of my economic articles for the Party I have talked about an outmoded economic model which doesn’t really improve the welfare of the bulk of Singaporeans. While the GDP growth rate over the last few years looked impressive, fuelled globally by an unsustainable growth in US imports, the productivity of the workforce first stagnated and then fell sharply. Growth was built upon the addition of seemingly inexhaustible inputs of cheap labour from abroad with concomitant dire consequences for the real wages of those at the median and below. Domestic consumption has been driven down to a level that is on a par with China and countries at a much earlier stage of development. The savings rate rose to 47% in 2008 which given what little we hear about the decline in value of our external investments is manifestly excessive. Yet all we hear from the government is that we need to have more of the same policies of cutting business costs and just wait for the inevitable return of the US consumption binge."
(extract fm 'Diary Of A Singapore Mind')
Thursday, July 09, 2009
Singapore 10th most expensive city in the world!!!!
London is ranked 16th. Paris is ranked 13th. [Link]. We have 20% of our population earning less than $1400 per month. I challenge you to find me one person working full time in London or Paris earning less than $1400 a month - I believe you will have a hard time, yet there are a few hundred thousand Singaporeans living on such low income. Imagine what life is like in the 10th most expensive city in the world when you work full time for less than $1400 a month.
We have the income distribution of a 3rd world country and cost of living that is number 10 among the most expensive cities in the world. So what is quality of life for the bottom one third of the population? You know that article by Vijay Kumar on the "The hidden ugly side of Singapore" [Link] has been circulated in forums and blogs. Many express doubt about the story being true but the important thing is the story CAN be true. When you have people making less than $1400 a month, people who are uninsured (due to existing or congenital illness) because healthcare is not universal and expensive, no minimum wages, no social safety net and the most expensive public housing in the world, you can imagine a large segment of the population living in misery and struggling in the system.
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The problem with Singapore is the leadership that got us to this sorry state. We are led by a prime minister whose first moves when he was elected was to increase regressive tax (GST) and cut corporate taxes and those of high income earners. He then increased the pay of his cabinet which was already the highest in the world. He did not understand that the distribution of wealth in a nation is as important as the creation of wealth. His govt focussed on GDP growth and not on quality of life of Singaporeans....hence the opening of floodgates of foreign labor to keep wages down and GDP growing. How to keep this system going? Repress the opposition, limit the rights of the people to gather and speak up, control the media to paint a fairy tale of success and use estate upgrading as an election threat. It is hard these days to believe in the fairy tale, the Internet is slowing breaking the state media's monopoly, and many Singaporeans are beginning to understand that tax payers' money should not be used to threaten the voters during elections.
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If I am a Malaysian
July 8, 2009 by admin
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By Fang Zhi Yuan
There are a few letters to the Malaysian media lately from Malaysian PRs and Singapore citizens whose parents are Malaysians about the ugly side of Singapore which has sparked a furore amongst Singaporeans who are indignified by the “ingratitude” shown by their brethen across the causeway.
What if I am a Malaysian working in Singapore? How will I plot my future and that of my children? Will I take up the Singapore citizenship or continue being just a PR to enjoy the best of both worlds?
Let’s imagine I was born in a middle class Chinese family in Johor Bahru. My family is not exactly that rich, but pretty well off by ordinary Malaysian standards.
My father run a small family business, like the majority of the Chinese in Malaysia and I live in a terraced house on the outskirts of the city.
After finishing my primary education in Johor, I was sent packing to continue my secondary education in Singapore. I went through the Singapore education system till university where I graduated with a Bachelor degree in Engineering.
As a Malaysian with no National Service obligations, I entered the workforce two years earlier than my Singapore counterparts. Within 6 months of working, I was offered to take up Permanent Residency in Singapore which I gladly obliged.
Singapore has been good to me. It gave me an education, a job and a future, opportunities which I will never be able to get in Malaysia as a result of the racist bumiputra policy.
Two years later, I was invited to become a Singapore citizen which threw me into a dilemma as I will have to give up my Malaysian citizenship, not that I was particularly loyal to my country of birth.
Malaysia has always been close to my heart though the government does not treat the ethnic minorities particularly well.
My parents, relatives and friends are all in Malaysia. There is a kampung spirit and human touch which is absent in Singapore. Despite living here for a number of years, I do not feel a sense of belonging.
If I become a Singapore citizen, I will now have to contribute 20% of my monthly pay to the CPF which will effectively tie me down here in the future.
My children will naturally become Singapore citizens and my sons will be mandated to serve two years of National Service under the law.
Other than being entitled to slightly higher education and healthcare subsidies, becoming a citizen does not confer any additional advantages over a PR.
After much contemplation, I have decided to maintain the status quo. My children were born in Johor as Malaysian citizens. I plan to enrol them in a Singapore school. There is little doubt that the Singapore education system is far superior than that in Malaysia.
My children will be brought up enjoying the best of both worlds. Singapore schools are well recognized worldwide. It will be a springboard for them to further their education elsewhere. At the same time, my boy need not waste two years of his precious life to serve the Singapore army.
I will leave the decision whether to become Singapore citizens to my children. As for myself, I do not intend to retire in Singapore. Life is too tough and stressful here.
Being still a Malaysian citizen, I am entitled to a housing grant which I intend to use to purchase a bungalow in Johor as a retirement home which cost about RM$500,000, the price of a three-room HDB flat in Singapore.
Had I remained in Malaysia, I will probably not achieve so much in life. I am thankful to the Singapore government for giving me the opportunity to study and work in Singapore. However, I want the best for myself and my family and Singapore is not quite the place to set up home when there are greener pastures elsewhere.
I have done my part and contributed to the Singapore economy. I do not intend to work till the day I drop dead. I want to retire and spend time with my children and grandchildren without having to worry about healthcare expenses.
Should I forfeit my Malaysian citizenship and become a Singaporean or continue to make money here and retire in my hometown?
Over the years, many Malaysians have worked in Singapore and become Permanent Residents. What percentage of these PRs have taken up citizenship?
Given a choice, would you prefer to be born in Singapore as a citizen or as a PR born in Malaysia?
The above account is not entirely fictitious. It is adapted from the personal life of a relative who is in the top echelon of a statutory board. In spite of numerous invitations by the government to him to become a Singapore citizen, he has adamantly refused to do so.
The Singapore government makes no distinction between locals and foreigners. We welcome foreigners with open arms. They are given equal opportunities as locals to succeed in Singapore.
Unfortunately, our greatest selling point to foreign talents is also dissuading them from settling down here permanently. What additional advantages does being a citizen have over a PR?
I failed my last IPPT and has to go for remedial training thrice a week. Can you imagine the hassle and torture of reporting to Khatib Camp to run 2.4km after a long and hectic day? Due to my frequent travels, I have to apply for deferments often. There was once I forgot and I received a letter from SAF almost immediately threatening to charge me.
My relative, however, have no such concerns. He has zero NS obligations at all - no ICTs, RTs, mob-manning and whatsoever. He can concentrate fully on his work and career. He does not care a bit about local politics. His aim is simply to make money here. His son is born in Malaysia, but studying in Singapore. He need not worry about him having to go through NS when he grows up.
Foreigners flock to Singapore in search of a better life. If they are willing to turn their backs on their homeland and become Singapore citizens in the first place, how patriotic can they be? How many of these new citizens give up their pink ICs later?
J.F. Kennedy once said: “Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country.”
Most Singapore males have served 2 years of national service followed by over 10 years of reservist training. Are we getting a fair deal from our country?
SELLING THE SINGAPORE E-GOV..
http://www.futuregov.net/articles/2009/jul/07/selling-singapore-e-govt-story/
More hidden sides of Singapore
Rachel Loo
Jul 7, 09
3:16pm
I refer to Vijay Kumar's letter 'The hidden side of Singapore' and wish to add my own experiences of the so called beautiful Garden City.
For several years I did a part-time course at the Singapore Bible College, commuting to and fro between Johor Bahu and Singapore via the Woodlands Causeway. Had it not been because of God's calling, I would have never stepped into Singapore despite living and working in Johor Baru for more than a decade.
For one, Singapore may be a first world country but the mentality of its people is anything but first world. Many Singaporeans are still very much in the third world.
One does not have to go very far to find an example for this. The Singapore Bible College itself is run as if they are still in the 1940s. They are so old fashioned in so many ways. A Mat Salleh lecturer once made a joke in class: "the dress code for the students in this college is Victorian" and he broke out laughing.
Management of the college is very much influenced by the Lee Kuan Yew's style authoritarian - I talk you listen.
There are no grievances procedures for the students. Thus students are expected not to dispute the decisions of the management and being a bible college, they of course do not think it is biblical to sue the college.
Out of college, younger generations of Singaporeans not only do not have a proper understanding of the history between Malaysia and Singapore, they also do not have any great interest in it. For those who can afford it, they are only interested in migrating overseas. What happens to those who cannot afford it?
Rev Dr Joseph Ogawa, a psychologist missionary from America, often shares his testimony of how when he was first called by God to move to Singapore from America. His first reaction upon reaching Singapore was "are you sure there are any poor people here?"
Yes, there are many poor Singaporeans. A classmate from Singapore Bible College said his family was so poor, they could not afford to send him to school and he had to work as a carpet boy when he was 13 to supplement his family's income. Later when he had kidney failure, he couldn't get aid from dialysis centre like NKF because in Singapore if you have more than one terminal illness (he had two), you will be classified as a "no hope" case. In other words, "wait to die". As such, you will not get aid from government hospitals.
Like many people who visit Singapore, we only see the skyscrapers, the immaculately kept public places, efficiency of the public transport system, the cars, the condos and the affluence of the Singapore lifestyle. But have you seen a one room flat (not a one bedroom flat) with a whole family living in it?
Besides, the normal HDB flats, the poorest of all can be found in abundance around Redhill. As part of my course practicum, I was sent as a volunteer to counsel the students in one of the secondary schools in Redhill. It turned out to be a cultural shock for me.
Have you seen Singaporeans who are so poor, they have to steal their neighbour's water? Collecting cardboard boxes for a living? Have you heard of Singaporeans who can't pay their monthly bills? Have you heard of Henderson Secondary School or do we only know Raffles Junior College? Seen the juvenile delinquents? Do you know what is the "in" thing for school girls these days in Singapore? It's self mutilation by using razors and committing suicide. If you have not done it, you are not considered normal.
The school counsellor admits, this is the other side of Singapore the government do not want to brag about, neither do they want to highlight it. Singapore being a Confucius-led society is very concerned about the "face" and will never let you see anything but only "success". That is why Singapore cannot afford to fail.
The following is a speech by Kenneth Jeyaretnam, Reform Party leader, at the Foreign Correspondents Association Lunch on July 2, 2009.
Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for inviting me to this luncheon today. The Foreign Correspondents Association has been here in Singapore even longer than I have and like my father has played a significant and historic role in the story of our region’s history.
It is surely no less an historic moment for Singapore’s newest political party, The Reform Party to be given this exciting platform.
I am very proud to join the ranks of such prominent figures as our Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and his father Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and from the opposition Jaswant Singh of India, Malaysia’s Anwar Ibrahim and so many other statesman, politicians and even Nobel Prize winners.
Not least of these is my dear late father JBJ. I really do feel unworthy but then again, maybe July is a quiet month for the press.
You have asked me to discuss my hopes and visions for The Reform Party and how I see the current political situation in Singapore.
However as an economist I shall insist on boring you with my views on the current economic situation and the economic future for Singapore.
I hope you won’t mind if I start by adding a bit of background to my emergence on the political scene. It seems to me that the ladies and gentleman of the press are in dire need of a bit more information about me.
I say this because despite being Singaporean, I am always referred to in the press as ‘British-trained economist’, Kenneth Jeyaretnam.
Hmm..I wonder why I have never read in the Singapore press, British-trained mathematician prime minister Lee Hsien Loong or British trained-lawyer, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew.
Naturally I suspect that the mainstream media want to light up a subliminal marker in the people’s minds that a)I’m a foreigner and b) that my economics is suspiciously left-wing because it’s from a country associated with economic failure and the welfare state.
In actual fact I’m much less British than, my father, who spent many more years than I as a British subject. So I went to University in England but I was born here, I went to school here, excepting two years, and I completed National Service.
And I always say that if I’m fit to die for my country then I’m fit to stand for it.
I’m not ashamed of being a patriot. On the second point I have always believed by and large in free markets, though governments may need to intervene to prevent undesirable or suboptimal outcomes.
Indeed at Cambridge, I often used to have economics discussions with our current Finance Minister, Mr Tharman, who was there doing a masters, and at that time he was far, far to the left of me on most economic policy issues.
In addition to British-trained the other appendage to my name is usually “Son Of.”.. JBJ. That one is of course entirely true. I’m just grateful my father’s name wasn’t Sam!
There’s no arguing that the Reform Party and indeed the very notion of an active opposition, was my father’s legacy to Singapore.
He always strove, at great personal cost, to get the people to realise they had the power to change things just by exercising their democratic rights - Hence his call at the inauguration dinner to the people to arise from their slumber.
Unfortunately many here wear ear plugs when they slumber but luckily for me there’s nothing like a recession for waking people up.
My father named his new party The Reform Party for a reason. He believed that the way forward, for freeing the people of Singapore was through political Reform.
It’s a legacy which I’m proud to continue but also to extend and adapt to the current needs of Singapore.
We have always been told that the current authoritarian framework has benefited us economically - I feel we’re victims of the approved version of history.
In fact Singapore’s growth record is good but not spectacular.
It hardly compares with nations such as Taiwan and South Korea - Nations that started considerably poorer and are now at comparable levels of per-capita real incomes. Nations which moved away from authoritarianism and are now much freer than Singapore-so that authoritarian framework is clearly no longer beneficial.
The task I have set myself for the Reform Party is to get across the message that the Faustian bargain the electorate thought they had struck in surrendering liberty for economic prosperity didn’t have to be so.
In some of my economic articles for the Party I have talked about an outmoded economic model which doesn’t really improve the welfare of the bulk of Singaporeans.
While the GDP growth rate over the last few years looked impressive, fuelled globally by an unsustainable growth in US imports, the productivity of the workforce first stagnated and then fell sharply.
Growth was built upon the addition of seemingly inexhaustible inputs of cheap labour from abroad with concomitant dire consequences for the real wages of those at the median and below.
Domestic consumption has been driven down to a level that is on a par with China and countries at a much earlier stage of development.
The savings rate rose to 47% in 2008 which given what little we hear about the decline in value of our external investments is manifestly excessive.
Yet all we hear from the government is that we need to have more of the same policies of cutting business costs and just wait for the inevitable return of the US consumption binge.
So whilst the need for Reform in the field of democracy and civil rights is an integral part of the Party’s platform I believe that there are equally fundamental reforms that need to be made in the economic sphere.
In essence The Reform Party has become the double Reform Party.
These are indeed exciting times for Democracy and the Opposition in Singapore. Given its record over the last few years it will be difficult for the government to continue its claim that it alone has a monopoly on good economic management.
Or at least we hope to make it difficult for the government to go on claiming that monopoly.
Unfortunately it is also a very challenging time for the Opposition. After many years of conditioning, Singaporeans think very differently to those who have been brought up in a liberal western democracy.
There’s little point, I’ve found, in talking about the European Convention on Human Rights to people who think that expressing an opinion will lead to mob rule and rioting.
Or, as we were told often in the past, that foreign investment and MNCs would flee Singapore if there were significant numbers of Opposition MPs in Parliament.
The latest parliamentary changes proposed by the government don’t help promote democracy - amounting to no more than smoke and mirrors.
It’s a cheap parlour trick that will have no impact at all on The Reform Party’s strategy - but clearly gives the government a legitimate excuse for changing constituency boundaries yet again.
The silent and peaceful protesters in Iran summed up our feelings best when they held up notices saying simply, “election not selection”
Throughout all, I maintain my belief in the people of Singapore. We are its greatest resource. We are a uniquely talented and situated nation and we deserve prosperity and emancipation.
In time we will come to the realisation that these are not mutually exclusive but actually are dependent one upon the other.
I believe that The Reform Party is the party to bring that to the people of Singapore and my modest hope is that this will be achieved if not in the next five years than in my lifetime.
http://www.thereformparty.net/?p=267
SINGAPORE MIND IN COMPARISION TO THE MALAYSIAN MIND...
http://singaporemind.blogspot.com/
Diary of A Singaporean Mind
Tuesday, July 07, 2009
GDP Growth as Progress in Singapore....
"Do we want to open our country to expats so that they can progress at the expense of our own Malaysians? Do we want to 'progress' to a level that even our children can't buy a house in our own land? Last, I ask myself. Do we Malaysians look at GDP growth as the only measure to choose our government or are we much more matured than that? Achievement at whose expense?" - Vijay Kumar, Malaysian who worked in Singapore [Link]
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We saw what 7.5% GDP growth is like in 2007 - cost of housing went up by 23%, transport costs go up, utilities go up, etc. Income rose meaningfully only for a small number of people because of unequal distribution. Most Singaporeans fear the type of GDP growth we see in 2007 but we are also afraid of job losses in a recession. For many Singaporeans, the good times are gone for ever and life is a perpetual struggle to survive. Why?
Take cars as an example. We have a quota system. This means that even if income rises, the number of people who are allowed to have cars is the same. What happens when income rises is the COE price goes up disproportionately compared with the rise in income. You might think that if your income goes up, you can afford more taxi rides, forget it! Taxi fares rise just as fast when demand goes up because the number of taxis is also limited by the COE. Housing? Do HDB flats become more affordable when GDP goes up? No! In 2007, the GDP went up 7.5% but the cost of housing went up by 23%. The paradox in Singapore is as people make higher incomes, the size of homes they can afford shrinks. For a large number of people whose income remain stagnant, these price increases represent a fall in real wages and we see more poverty in Singapore today than we did 20 years ago.
Singapore did what no other country has done to go after GDP growth - importing foreign labor in large numbers. Most other countries do it by moving up the technology ladder, innovation, nurturing home grown industries. In 2008, our population grew by 5.5% to 4.84M[Link] that is an addition of roughly 250,000 people. Does it make sense to add so many people onto a land scarce island like Singapore? We have been told various things over the years including "foreigners create jobs for Singaporeans", "don't be small minded", etc. Most Singaporeans can agree that a certain level of immigration helps to keep our society vibrant but to import people to maximise GDP ignoring the impact on ordinary Singaporeans can be detrimental in the long run.
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Malaysian, Vijay Kumar, fears that his govt will copy Singapore's model to maximise GDP growth. He does not like what he saw when he worked in Singapore and asks if Malaysians should just "look at GDP growth as the only measure to choose government" or "are we more matured than that?". Vijay Kumar has asked the right questions, the same questions Singaporeans asked but received no proper answer for the past 15 years. Now we are told to just accept what has been done and told to live with the consequences.
posted by LuckySingaporean at 4:29 AM
12 Comments:The quality of life is becoming lower as we "progress".
The foreigners manning food stalls dish out poor service and poor versions of local food. Just yesterday at a food court stall, utensils had ran out and a customer was scolded by the FT for demanding his fork and spoon.
Singaporeans have to stretch their wallets by buying no frill groceries and cheaper parallel imports from 3rd world countries. These products were meant for the poor in 3rd world countries and are of inferior quality due to their low cost ingredients. But we are actually paying first world Singapore prices for these inferior products.
Public housing is becoming too expensive. The units are also becoming smaller, and located further away from MRT stations and CBD. Now the land near MRT stations are reserved for condominium developments. 200k - 300k will only get you a 4rm flat in ulu place near factories producing noise and air pollution, worker quarters, or beside expressways. The air pollutants alone will give you lung cancer.
With the influx of immigrants, the infrastructure is unable to cope. Crime rate is also going up.
My point is, why are we paying first world prices to live in an increasingly 3rd world like country?
By Jim, at 8:46 AM
PAP under LHL and his junta cabinet has transformed into a neo-Republican party with trickle-down economics as their primary ideology.
By Anonymous, at 11:12 AM
Loser please get lost and do not waste the limited resources in Singapore.
Hokkien saying, please don't "Jia Liao Bee"
By Anonymous, at 11:40 AM
Ministers receive a sizeable chunk of their bonus based on GDP.
Accurate or not, GDP is used by the public as the key indicator of a country's economic growth.
So, it is not surprising that our ministers and elite chase GDP growth like men chasing pretty women.
BTW, GDP bonuses are not extended to rank-and-file civil servants. They are only for the top dogs in the civil service and ministers. Likewise, most civil servants today do not enjoy pension benefits. Ministers and top civil servants (I think) still do.
By Anonymous, at 12:39 PM
I say pay them the money if they can give us a POSITIVE GDP in this trying times. After all, during the boom time, they claimed that it is due to their leadership and should be paid their due.
By Anonymous, at 12:58 PM
To Anon@12:39pm
Yup, pay them obsecene wages for a 5 figures holidays and what have been they achieved? Reminded me te movie by Michael Moore - 911.
when a reporter ask Bush why he takes holidays after winning the election.
His reply: that's part of the work...
So, look at the mess he created for his failure to connect to typical citizens...only talks to elities
By Anonymous, at 2:22 PM
singaporeans are generally courteous and welcome foreigners.
its when the pap govt allow so many foreigners that we become uncomfortable and even hateful.
where did all the supposed benefit go? not me or u, just to the employers and ministers pay.
i sincerely hope fellow singaporeans will wake up and realise the pap's evil and vote against them.
By Anonymous, at 4:04 PM
We have been wishing that Singaporeans wake up and vote against the junta for the past several elections, but sadly it's 'same old same old' lah!
It will probably be 'same old same old' for the next twenty years.
Singaporeans are just like lost souls with a shining exterior. Outstanding in terms of economic performance but lacking in courage to change the things that need changing.
Lost Citizen
By Anonymous, at 4:21 PM
Anon4.04
Singaporean could do one thing in the meantime, use joss-stick to pray to PAP regularly. They are really very very powerful. like a hokkien saying: "God also him Ghost also him.
By Anonymous, at 4:27 PM
Measuring progress of a country by means of GDP growth is the problem and this method should be abandon. When there iis progress, life must be better and if this is not so, then there is NO progress, despite what the GDP figures show.
By WL, at 4:31 PM
Please save Singapore from the heartless PAP by voting wisely at the next election ! Else these PAP crooks will continue to plunder our country reserves via TemaSick and the incompetent ministers' obscene pay cheques !!!
By Anonymous, at 5:40 PM
so the cake is a lie? haha
By Anonymous, at 5:41 PM
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A MALAYSIAN'S EXPERIENCE OF SINGAPORE (extract fm Malaysiakini}
The hidden ugly side of Singapore
Vijay Kumar Jul 3, 09 6:48pm
In between the glamarous buildings and shoppings complexes of this city state, there is huge suffering that the world has never seen. Something that the Singapore government or media will try to hide from the rest of the world. And this is the lives of 80 percent of 'true' Singaporeans who live in the republic's Housing Development Board (low cost) flats.
I, like many young youths, went looking for a better future in this Lion City of opportunity, After four years of working experience in Kuala Lumpur. It was my first experience outside Malaysia and I was very happy to be offered a job in Singapore with a basic salary of S$3,500.
Then, with huge hopes, I started looking for a master bedroom to rent being single. I finally got a master bedroom in Clementi for S$700 a month but only after being rejected by many other landlords for being Indian. The ensuing eight- month ordeal that I spent in this HDB flat really opened my mind to what Singapore is for those who can't earn.
It made me ask if this is the type of development that I ever wanted in my country Malaysia. This is the first time that I felt gifted to be born in Malaysia. Anyway, I lived with a family of three (husband, wife with one daughter) who rented out their master bedroom to me while they slept in the common room.
It was a three-room flat (but unlike in Malaysia, a three-room flat has only two bedrooms). I did not believe it was the master bedroom that I was staying in until I went into the other room and saw that there is no attached bathroom there. I was given a bed and a mattress and also two fans. Then I noticed that the couple with their daughter sleeping on the floor with a thin mattress in the other room. Not even a fan in that room.
Both husband and wife are born Singaporeans and were employed. It was after one month that I realised that the daughter was not going to school regularly and most of the time there would be a quarrel in the early morning between the father and daughter as there was not enough money to pay for the bus to go to school.
There were times when the daughter was very sick and father had no money to take her to see a doctor. It was a real pain in the heart to hear a small girl suffering through the thin walls of this HDB flat. It was unbelievable for me to see this happening in this ultra-modern city. It took me another two months to realise that what was happening in this flat was not an isolated case of urban poverty in Singapore.
It was every where in those HDB flats. There was a Chinese neighbour (an elderly man) and his son had no money to get a taxi to send his father to the clinic for daily diabetic wound-dressing. I soon understood that poverty in Singapore transcends racial boundaries. The whole family of my landlord got a shock that I own a car in Malaysia.
My landlord would keep pestering me every time I come back to Malaysia to bring my car over so that his whole family could go sightseeing in Singapore. In all my life, I never believed people in a developed country like Singapore would ever consider car ownership a privelege.
Three months later, one fine day, I came back home and realised that there was no electricity in the house. This time, my landlord did not have the money to pay for the utility bills. I was back in the Stone Age, using candles. This lasted for days until finally he borrowed money from somewhere and settled the bills.
My landlord as a person I have known during that period never come back drunk or looked like a gambler. He had to pay for his mother's medical expenses, that much I know. This was the time in my life when I learned what is was like to live in that poor quality HDB flat, drying clothes in the rooms and listening to what the couple talked about in the next room via the thin walls.
It was this time in life that made me to think, 'Is this what I want Malaysia to be? For those who talk great or look up to Singapore's success, have they ever come and lived in Singapore like I how I did? Have you seen a HDB flat and how it looks like?
Bring your whole family for a dinner using public transport and then rush to catch the last bus. Is this what a 10% growth rate a year is about that we want boast? Does this growth figures mean anything in the first place? Do we want to open our country to expats so that they can progress at the expense of our own Malaysians?
Do we want to 'progress' to a level that even our children can't buy a house in our own land? Last, I ask myself. Do we Malaysians look at GDP growth as the only measure to choose our government or are we much more matured than that? Achievement at whose expense?
HEFTY GUNS EXPENSES FOR A SMALL COUNTRY! WHO'S THE THREAT ?
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=posted_news&rid=7228&catid=295
"Malay rights have been systematically stripped through the years.The Malays will remain the poorest minority there.Thank you.
At least here we are taking steps to narrow the gap between the richest and the poor.You know who is who.
Jeng3"
Wow JJJ
I am impressed with your intelligence and logic!
In Singapore, discrimination against minority is called having minority rights "systematically stripped through the years".
In Malaysia, discrimination against minority is called "taking steps to narrow the gap between the richest and poor."
You are like a snake that can talk with both heads! Just try not to have both heads talking at the same time.
I think the bumi policies has prepared you well to win in life!
To CONCUBINE:
I will return to "concentrating on my intellectual sowing, and studies to have a better understanding". I'm not extremely intelligent, nor am i particularly racist. I'm just amused that SO many people feel that Malaysia is fair and unbiased against its citizens and Singapore is undermining its Malay population. Because the fact is that the Malaysia government has, for a long time now, trodden over the rights of its non-Malay citizens by giving the Malays special privileges.
I may not have a perfect grasp of the politics within the region, but i do understand and appreciate the importance of meritocracy, equality for all. Because with that principle, Singapore has allowed equal chances for ALL singaporean individuals to succeed, no matter if they're malay, indian or chinese.
I am proud that Singapore,an island with a population of less that 1/6 of that of Malaysia, and a land size many times smaller, can overcome the many adversities and overtake the malaysian economy. Malaysia has yet to achieve the standard of living we possess.
I am proud to be a part of this tiny middle kingdom, a country that has consistently been able to punch way above its weight.
And im not a foreign student occupying the vacant singaporean classroom seat. I'm a true blue singaporean, though my father WAS a malaysian chinese. And he's glad he left malaysia to strike out a better future in a country that appreciates the importance of meritocracy, and doesn't discriminate the non-malays.
maybe you should try to strike out a future in mighty malaysia concubine ^^
DEAR SG STUDENT
YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO CONCENTRATING ON YOUR INTELLECTUAL SOWING,AND STUDIES TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON THE POLITICS AND HISTORY OF THE MALAY ARCHEPELEGO, SEA, AND TO A LARGER EXTENT ASIA ITSELF.THE BEGINNINGS OF TIME IMMEMORIAL OF THE CHOLA DYNASTY AND THE SRI VIJAYAPAHIT EMPIRE IN THIS VAST REGION. IN THE MEANTIME ABSOLVE YOURSELF FROM MATURED ADULT CHAT UNTIL YOU HAVE A GOOD GRASP OF THIS PARTICULAR REGION. RECKON YOU MUST BE A FOREIGN TALENT SG STUDENT, OCCUPYING THE VACANT AUTHENTIC SINGAPOREAN CLASSROOM SEAT. WELCOME TO THE TINY MIDDLE KINGDOM, SURROUNDED BY THE HINTERLAND!
TheStarOnline.
Saturday July 4, 2009
Nothing as solid as land
INSIGHT DOWN SOUTH
By SEAH CHIANG NEE
Banking has now lost its shine. Emphasis appears to be shifting towards accumulating land-based assets.
THE average Singaporean, it was once said half in jest, can easily become the world’s best civil servant or bank employee for reasons that are not very complimentary.
He is serious at work, generally efficient, unbending about rules, and, of course, corruption-free – “too afraid”, someone cynically added.
It also implies that he lacks initiative and avoids making decisions on his own for fear of making mistakes. But scoff as you may, this passive, efficient nature has contributed significantly to the making of one of Asia’s top financial centres and a modern business hub.
As a result, the city is home to more than 7,000 multinational corporations, including most of the top-notch banks. Then the economic storm broke, darkening Singapore’s horizon.
Now more than their neighbours, recession-hit Singaporeans, who have been used to the good life, are increasingly fretting about their future.
The crisis has sharpened their sense of vulnerability concerning size and economic dependency on others, and the ability to maintain their prosperity.
“The golden age of growth may have passed,” commented Selena Ling, an economist with OCBC bank.
Concerned, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong recently set up a high-level group to map out new economic strategies for the future.
“The road ahead will be difficult. First, we have to see through this global economic storm,” Lee said. “Beyond that, we face a new world.”
This year the economy may shrink by 8%, while GDP per person is expected to drop to US$32,000 (RM113,000) from US$37,700 (RM133,000) from 2008.
The chief concern is the eclipse of global banking, one of Singapore’s main pillars of growth.
Historically, financial services have powered the city’s growth, providing high-paying jobs for an army of graduates here and abroad. Thousands have now dissipated in a reversal of fortunes.
Since my early school-days, I have been advised by almost everybody’s mother to take up a banking career. “That’s where the money is” I was reminded.
Banking has now lost its shine, casting doubts on Singapore’s future. The big question: how can the country make up for its decline.
The government appears to be disillusioned, at least for now, about the prospects of major banks.
It has divested substantial holdings in two big banks – Bank of America and Barclays – and taking steep losses after buying them only a few years ago as long-term investments. More could follow.
Emphasis appears to be shifting towards accumulating land-based assets. The sovereign wealth funds said they would invest more in Asia, particularly in raw materials, natural resources and commodities.
It is apparent that the leaders now consider it more prudent to invest in “wealth that is in the ground” as a balance to the volatile financial markets.
When Singapore was spinning into crisis, it was noted here that the larger neighbours that have abundant natural resources – and have managed them well – have survived much better.
Some never went into recession. The fact that they were less involved in international trade explains the bulk of the reason, but the other is the benefits derived from their natural wealth.
By these standards, Singapore, with so few of them, is almost at the bottom of the table – far behind Australia, Canada or Indonesia. The Saudis have a great deal.
When financials collapsed ad inflation soared, they turned to their natural asset, oil, and if the price drops, it could be kept in the ground.
For me – and many other resources-starved Singaporeans – it would be ideal if Singapore could convert more of reserves into land-based wealth,foreign sensitivities permitting.
Many a time have I heard people say they wish Singapore will be able to buy and develop a piece of unused land or island in a nearby country!
In fact, the lack of space and natural resources was a major reason why Singapore moved into high savings, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew once explained.
A large reserve is needed to provide a buffer against any financial crisis – just like at present – and make up for the lack of land-based assets. And that, he added, had to be the case in Singapore – always.
This discussion reminds me of a related one years ago when engineers were flocking to join the booming banking industry because of higher pay.
The trend led top civil servant (now retired) Ngiam Tong Dow to worry about this lop-sided switch – and its implications for a modern city. This was a time when Singapore needed to produce more builders rather than bankers, Ngiam said.
Engineers were people who built the city and factories and office buildings, as well as engines, highways, ships and airports.
Bankers, on the other hand, merely shifted wealth around from one place to another and earning a profit for it, he added. They didn’t actually build things.
Since then, of course, the world has shifted. Mega-industries today need cross-border financing, moving large amount of funds quickly so that trade and commerce can flow.
But his basic point remains valid today – more so after excessive and complex banking helped create the current financial mess.
ATTRACTIVE MALAYSIA....
http://themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/business/31485-aussie-firms-told-malaysia-still-attractive-business-target
LOOK FOR SOME IN THE MALAY COMMUNITY.....is spade a spade????
http://sgblogs.com/entry/affirmative-action-malays/349614
EVEN U-TUBE IS INFLUENCED TO CENSOR.... WHY?
http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/2532-breaking-news-did-youtube-censor-film-on-pap
FORTY FOUR YEARS TO PRODUCE A GENERAL, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE CONSIDERED FIERCE DEFENDERS DURING JAPANESE WAR AND INDONESIAN CONFRANTATION. THEY EXPERIENCED TRUE FIELD BATTLE.
http://jacob69.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/45yrs-to-have-a-tv-channel-30yrs-to-produce-feature-film-44yrs-to-have-a-general/
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http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/an-un-malay-majulah-singapur/
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http://yoursdp.org/index.php/component/content/article/2056-a-credible-and-effective-opposition
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http://singaporenewsalternative.blogspot.com/2009/07/indian-army-will-not-seek-fresh.html
also..
PEOPLE TRADING.....
http://singaporenewsalternative.blogspot.com/2009/07/st-aerospace-importing-foreigners-to.html
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hey michealjack:
how is it that Dr Mahathir stands up for the rights of the Non-malays within malaysia?
by up holding the malaysia new economic policy?
don't sprout nonsense by accusing Singapore of "bringing in china chinese to overtake singapore" and "to invade the malayland through economics invasion". Singapore has no ability to economically control malaysia, neither soes it have the intention to. Assuming you know what an economy is.
Are you singaporean? i'll be ashamed of you if you are
Dear TUN
You have to make sure your govt,even though you are not in cabinet.NOT to go low on Singpore.
LKY are diferent.You are open even to media.
LKY is fobia of the media,he always wants to potray his good image
but facts reveals itself.
I don,t blame you for not be friendly to LKY
He will gradually take your home,even your wife
So stand firm on Singapore.follow their styles that will weaken them
NEVER give in
Tun,you are a great muslims leader.U r unique.
LKY negatives on you because he cannot (makan) u
like the rest of the malaysia leader before.
U stands right for yr people.
it is rude of LKY to visits your home and preaching meritrocracy.
What crab is that because he himself do not practise.
His deep intention,words spoken, most important his doings does not
reflects his words and intention.
he brings in chinese from china to gain his
strenght from day 1 of his being the PM of singapore.
reasons of umno failure in singapore,he brings in even more now
to invade the malayland through economics invasion.
1980s when HDB develops singapore,they mad use of the kelantan worke
(mad kotai)work as contractor.Now they are no more.
they bring in more chinese,as permit later a PR.
The indians,banglas are just given permit till time to go back.
mayb just a mild percentege r given PR to made things look good.
What meritrocracy u talk about.
Singporean live to work not work to live.
we are just honourable slaves who work every minute and gain nothing.i,m not proud.
Hi JJJ,
What kind of Malay rights are you referring to? Exactly, what rights should a specific race have then? Should Chinese or Indian have more rights over Malays? Over my dead body. Rather, there should be a "race" called Malaysian or Singaporean instead. Why keep fighting over the differences? It is just too detrimental to everyone.
If you have a critical mind in the context of Human Rights and fairness; regardless of race, language or religion, then perhaps the national language for Malaysia should not be Bahasa Melayu? A language more on a neutral ground.
You speak of the minority being undermined in other country. What about yours? Is having Bumi policy fair to any of your so called RIGHTS? Is this the preferred choice of narrowing the gap between the rich and poor? One should earn his or her own credit and success through hardwork and not hand outs.
Your thoughts are bias and uncritical; skewed toward your own race with vested interest. Sure sound like Hitler or Communism.
All this while, your issue is never on Rights but on RACE! Hey, stick to your Nationalism. Least, you still gain a certain diminutive respect.
to empress:
I don't think all non-malay Singaporeans are biased against malays in the country ^^ For the record, my friends and i admire the community spirit within the malay community. they stick up for each other in times of trouble and never hesitate to help each other. There are so many talented malay individuals who've made an impact in our country, and i can assure many Singaporeans recognize that.
Regarding the NS issue, the army really recognizes its mistake and even appointed its first malay general, and it won't be the last i'm sure.
I just hope one day you would grow up to be proud of Singaporean, instead of cursing the day you were born.
best regards =)
to JJJ,
please look at upholdjustice's comments. please comment on labeling the chinese as ungrateful while they contribute 90% of your income.
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to JJJ:
Your government has been marginalizing the non-malay races in your country. Look at the NEP. Do we have that kind of outright racial discrimination? All i'm saying is: the Malays are not marginalised in our country. Do come over and take a look around singapore.
To Empress:
it is unfortunate that the malays are not enlisted in the army.
However, the army has realized its mistake and recently appointed a malay as a general in the army. i assure you that that racism is much more prevalent in neighbouring malaysia. Especially against non-malays.
No one wins in this game of I do you in and you do me in. There is no question that Singapore had benefited from the goodwill of Malaya and Malaysia. In the early days Singapore relied on entrepot trade with Malaya as its hinterland.
Singapore joined Malaysia and was divorced. "Malaysian Malaysia" was not wrong but hard to swallow for some, it was understandable that the Bumis did not like it. Why should? The price they paid is brain drain. The choice is Malaysia's.
Singapore will not gain fighting Malaysia and vice versa. Malaysia should not look at the lost of Batu Puteh as a big set back or for any other reasons. Just give a congratulatory pat on Singapore as say look next time we should do better than them. It is like a soccer match. Penalty kicks etc. We won Sipadan/Ligitan last time.
Winning a rock will not advance Singapore an inch. But being so deprived of territory losing it will be a major set back. Similarly for Malaysia with so abundance of territory, winning or losing will affect Malaysia at all, just "tak puas hati" that is all. Maybe someday down the road a remarriage may be attempted again on mutually accepted terms.
I think Singaore agree that the causeway should be demolished and a straight bridge built in its place. Singapore can invest in Pelepas and participate in its growth and Pelepas in PSA.
Johore must clean up its rivers and not pump effluent into the Tebrau straits and West Johore straits to allay Singapore's fear. Our NewWater project is also partly to clean up our affluent water before it is released into the sea. Of course it is our fall back if Johore refuse to sell us raw water. We can only request but not demand.
The third bridge, yes it should be built. It will pay for itself as the land prices in E Johore will rise and more economic activities will follow. Singaporeans who lived in a highly urbanised state will enjoy the freedom of open space presented by Johore. They will go there and invest, play golf and bring business to Johoreans.
Why keep the sand? It will flow into the sea or choke up the river mouths. Selling it will bring revenue to Malaysia and establish good bi-lateral relations, co-operation and goodwill. Singapore can still buy sand from other countries but at a higher price. The more she pays for sand will translate into more bitter memories. A loose loose for both sides.
Iskandar developement is good for Johore and Singapore. Instead of saying malays we will say more jobs will be created for Malaysians and hopefully Singaporeans too.
Railway land. With better roads and budget airlines, train usage will reduce unless you double track and reach the reliability of the Japanese Shenkasen. Moreover with your own Pelepas Port, less and less goods will be exported through Tanjong Pagar. Therefore whether it terminates at Tg Pagar or at Kranji it is of no major importance to KTM. Most important is the ridership. The freeing up of land by KTM will be jointly develope to the benefit of KTM/Malaysia. Singapore will benefit too from seeing scarce land put to better use. Anyway the POA is signed and it is binding. So a peaceful resolution where the rule of law takes precedent is preferred.
Tun and LKY are highly respected statesmen. Surely you both can go say Agentina for a break and agree to help the present Teams in charge to bring about a winning formula.
salam Tun,
to sgstudent,
Wow!You are a brilliant product of your government's 'North Korea style' media!
Anyway SBA,Empress, Nur Dianah and many others before them sort of answered you on my behalf.Don't pull your crap on us.We know better.
Malay rights have been systematically stripped through the years.The Malays will remain the poorest minority there.Thank you.
At least here we are taking steps to narrow the gap between the richest and the poor.You know who is who.
Jeng3
Dear hisham76,
Constantly harping on non native immigrants issue would only undermine the government's efforts to strengthen national unity.
You think we are ungrateful? Tun has already stated that 90% of income tax are contributed by the Chinese. Somebody enjoys housing discounts ,quota here and there from the income tax but still has the face to label us as being ungrateful?
You used America as an example?Just to correct your mistake.Caucasian are not native.Red Indians are.
Furthermore,in US ,there are certain rules protecing the minority but in this country,there are rules protecing the majority.
Here the government is honest with you, telling you the cake shall be shared according to the percentage of the population? Your professor taught you such kind of thing?
Let me give you an example.Person A works 10 hours a day.Persons B,C and D work 2 hours a day respectively.Don't you think the salary given to A is more than the total salary given to B,C and D?
Thank you for sharing your email with all of us.Those scholarship holders were definitely warm and friendly.You expected them to be sad and angry after being given scholarship?
You are really "Gajah di pelupuk mata tidak terlihat, kuman di sebelah lautan terlihat"! This country is still embroiled in racial conflict,rising crime rates and so on .But you can only see the happiness of a few scholarship holders.One drop of water does not make the ocean.
Hi Guys,
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Here goes:
Lee portrays that he would like to see an integration of citizens, regardless of race, colour or religion. My toes are laughing. If at all, I feel that Lee has been one of the greatest racists in the history of Singapore since independence. Correction, make that even BEFORE independence. Let’s take a quick walk through history.
Before Independence
Before independence, when we were still part of Malaysia, Lee kept harping the race card. Now, it is not that I support Malaysia’s bumi policy. It is that I feel if LKY and party were not comfortable with the bumi policy of Malaysia, why the heck did they ask for a merger in the first place?
It is not that Malaysia was dying to have Singapore in their federation. It was actually Lee’s idea to merge with Malaysia. The bumi policy was already in place. Lee goaded Malaysia for Singapore to be included in the federation – knowing FULL WELL that the acceptance of the bumi policy was ONE OF THE CONDITIONS.
So if at all, Singapore asked to be invited to the party, knowing full well what are the terms. After being accepted, Singapore kicks the chairs and overturns the tables of the hosts, and claim that the conditions at the party were not conducive!
In the guise of opposing the bumi policy, Lee shouts the “Merdeka” card, which calls for all Malaysians to be Malaysians. Hence, this was his first “integration call” amongst citizens. What’s worse, Singapore leaders even instigated Sabah and Sarawak, the other two states, that were to be merged into the federation, against KL.
Of course, we all know that according to Old Lee, Singapore was finally kicked out. Well, that’s Old Lee’s version. According to the Tengku then, Lee was the one who asked that Singapore be out. In fact, there are historians and political analysists who strongly believed that Lee even threatened the Tengku, that he would use Singapore's Chinese majority to create problems for KL. The Tengku finally relented.
Only the two of them were at the meeting. And only Lee is now alive. Somehow, looking at the background, I believe the Tengku’s version. Yeah, you can call that crocodile tears LKY shed on TV.
Post Independence
Lee’s racist remarks and actions are well known. Integration my foot. One of his well known concocted stories was this:
Three women, one South Asian, one South East Asian and one East Asian were in labour. All had difficulties. As it turned out, the South Asian and the South East Asian woman did not make it. But the East Asian woman did – due to her strong resilience.
No prizes for guessing that the South Asian woman was to depict an Indian, the South East Asian a Malay, and the East Asian a Chinese.
Where did he get that story that was told in the 1960s was beyond me. That story was repeated some years back in the Straits Times if I recall correctly.
However, in my opinion, the strongest evidence of his racist attitude, which actually shows that all his talk about integration is bull, is the treatment of Malays as far as NS in the early years, is concerned. We all know that for decades there were no Malays in the RSAF, commando, armour units or any other sensitive areas. You can give whatever reason you want for that. The fact is that the reason is based on RACE and that means the decision is RACIST. That you can’t argue.
Yet another policy, which was less obvious then (during the 1970s to 1990s), was the ease of granting PR to Chinese Malaysians, as compared to other races from Malaysia. The idea was to keep the racial ratio in Singapore intact. It was found that Chinese families in Singapore were not reproducing as much as the other races. Hence, to keep the ratio intact, granting PRs to Chinese was made easy, compared to other races.
Racist Policies is deep in Singapore – so what integration?
I have commented in this blog before that racism exists in Singapore. I have also given examples. In this article, I am going to elaborate some of the things I may have touched on in earlier posts.
CDAC, Mendaki, Sindha and other funds -
Why must we segregate the funds based on race? Is that integration? You mean to say funds contributed by a Chinese cannot be used by a Malay, Indian or Eurasian? The Chinese, being the biggest majority will of course have the biggest contribution. That means the Chinese community will be able to have much better programmes than the rest. Is that integration?
Racial Quota as HDB Policy -
While it appears that the PAP is trying to integrate the races, this policy actually disadvantages the minorities. In fact, the smaller the minority, the worse the situation for them.
It is understandable that newly married couples would like to be close to their parents. For the minorities, it is easy for a particular area to have hit the racial quota. For so long as there are no willing sellers for that area, the newly weds cannot be close to their parents.
The Chinese however, are large in number. The chances of any Chinese family selling their flat in any particular area is hence, more likely than a minority family to do the same.
So is the policy intended to integrate the races, or is it to disintegrate the minorities?
SAP Schools -
Ah….so if integration of races in important, such that there has to be racial quota in HDB flats, why is it the reverse in schools? Why do we have elite Chinese schools which automatically disqualifies minority races, due to their mother tongue?
Most Chinese schools hardly have any minority races. If you want to talk about racial integration, shouldn’t we start them young – at school? Why then this racist policy of favouring the Chinese by setting up special schools for them?
Integration you say? Look at your IC, dude! –
Many of us accept that race is stated on our IC. Now why must that be so? Are we not all Singaporeans? Here is where some social engineering has taken place, which many have not realized. About 20+ years ago or so, there is a column that states our dialect. Hence, on top of ‘race’, we had ‘dialect’.
Around the late 1970s and early 1980s, LKY kept lamenting that the Japanese could progress because they are a homogenous race. One of his thoughts he lamented was that Singapore is diverse. But presto, in no time, ‘dialect’ was removed and all Singapore Chinese were simply categorized as “Chinese”. This was also the time when the “Speak Mandarin Campaign” started.
But wait a minute. Not all Singaporeans are Chinese, are they? So how do you integrate the rest? PAP didn’t integrate them. In fact, PAP subtly disintegrated them. You see, before “dialect” was removed, all Malays were stated as Malays in the race category. Indians were stated as Indians too. However, after dialect was removed, Malays were categorized Malays, Boyanese …..whatever, while Indians too, had sub-races like Malayalee.
I was born during the time when “dialect” was still found on the IC. My dialect was stated “Hokkien”. When the new policy came up, “Hokkien” disappeared from my IC. I was then no longer different from my other Chinese friends who may have once been a Teochew or Hakka. However, over the years, I found that some of my Malay and Indian friends had their race sub-categorized.
So what the heck is going on? The above move meant the PAP wanted to homogenize the Chinese, while trying to break up the minorities into their sub-categories. Integration? My foot!
The above are some examples of blatant social engineering, based on racial lines. I don’t believe a word of old man’s words about integration. In my opinion, he has been the biggest racist leader in the history of Singapore.
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ed said...
One of the main reasons why malaysian chinese love Lee is because they know that Lee is doing with the Chinese what the Bumiputra-pushers are doing for the Malays in Malaysia.
In both cases, the Indians are left on the side and aside. Pity that a people from what is verifiably the most perspectivally, critically, and logically vibrant culture in s.e.asia need to be born elsewhere before they can excel with the aid of their cultural perspective above and beyond most of their discriminators.
Instead of learning from them, most in s.e.asia choose to hold them down so that they can continue feeling good about themselves and their respective cultures.
Pathetic actually. My brother had to go to the UK before becoming a professor in law in one of the UK's top universities. And the same applies to many of my professional Indian friends who have left. According to them, for an Indian to make it with the aid of their culture, they'll have to go elsewhere to be recognised for their worth as opposed to their perceived value by the insecure of most in s.e.asia.
Funny how many here stupidly complain about the consequences of their biases. I suppose they have been underdeveloped to not be able to connect the dots.
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June 30, 2009 3:48 PM
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Assalamualikum Ayahnda Tun n Bonda,
please allow me,
to pikachu1986,
as a leader,
if i tell my people the Malays, to be united, more hardworking and try to beat the achievement of other races, am i a racist???
if i tell my people the Malays, to be more careful in this dangerous world, be more alert of incoming congested world of illegal immigrants and illegal exported goods and cultures, am i a racist???
if i tell my people, the young Malays, to be more sensitive with the current conditions, to study harder to become better citizens, to do more hard jobs - the dirty, dangerous and difficult jobs - because these bring more income, am i a racist????
if i warn my people, the Malays, to understand the real situation, not to take things for granted, to be ready for the worse, am i a racist???
well pikachu1986,
if these are being said by a chinese leader or an indian leader or a leader from any other ethnic minority to their people, would you call them a racist????
think like a leader please...
what ever race you are from, if you are a leader, you are sure to warn your own people FIRST!!!...i bet, you'll be doing more than that if you become a leader...it's just because you are not a leader, not someone with a big heart...
May Allah The AlMighty bless both of you Ayahnda Tun n Bonda and all the visitors here.
Wassalam.
just my brain wave...
Dear Barn,
(((( 9) All Singaporeans entitle the same citizens' privileges. But Malaysian you need to be a Malay to enjoy Bumi discounts, uni & IPO. I wanted to ask you, I born in Malaysia, I pay the same tax but my citizen privileges are different from Malay. This is RACIST! I am not a foreigner, I am a Malaysian! ))))
You might be getting some of the facts wrong in Singapore; my homeland by the way.
Malays in Singapore do get a little more privileges than the rest especially in areas like education where they only have to pay a fraction of the school fees as compared to the usual. Educational fees are heavily subsidised for Malays here.
For public housing (HDB), Malays do have more options and priorities over Chinese due to the Racial Quota for each block of apartment. In a way to forge racial harmony.
To further merge the multi-racial society together, the use of ENGLISH as our FIRST language and of course our mother tongue as the second. Also, do note we sang our National Anthem in Bahasa Melayu, and during my National Service, the military marching command in Bahasa too.
Hope this info helps.
Nur Dianah Suhaimi: Feeling like the least favourite child
August 17, 2008
As a Malay, I’ve always been told that I have to work twice as hard to prove my worth
When I was younger, I always thought of myself as the quintessential Singaporean.
Of my four late grandparents, two were Malay, one was Chinese and one was Indian. This, I concluded, makes me a mix of all the main races in the country. But I later realised that it was not what goes into my blood that matters, but what my identity card says under ‘Race’.
Because my paternal grandfather was of Bugis origin, my IC says I’m Malay. I speak the language at home, learnt it in school, eat the food and practise the culture. And because of my being Malay, I’ve always felt like a lesser Singaporean than those from other racial groups.
I grew up clueless about the concept of national service because my father was never enlisted.
He is Singaporean all right, born and bred here like the rest of the boys born in 1955. He is not handicapped in any way. He did well in school and participated in sports.
Unlike the rest, however, he entered university immediately after his A levels. He often told me that his schoolmates said he was ‘lucky’ because he was not called up for national service.
‘What lucky?’ he would tell them. ‘Would you feel lucky if your country doesn’t trust you?’
So I learnt about the rigours of national service from my male cousins. They would describe in vivid detail their training regimes, the terrible food they were served and the torture inflicted upon them - most of which, I would later realise, were exaggerations.
But one thing these stories had in common was that they all revolved around the Police Academy in Thomson. As I got older, it puzzled me why my Chinese friends constantly referred to NS as ‘army’. In my family and among my Malay friends, being enlisted in the army was like hitting the jackpot. The majority served in the police force because, as is known, the Government was not comfortable with Malay Muslims serving in the army. But there are more of them now.
Throughout my life, my father has always told me that as a Malay, I need to work twice as hard to prove my worth. He said people have the misconception that all Malays are inherently lazy.
I was later to get the exact same advice from a Malay minister in office who is a family friend.
When I started work, I realised that the advice rang true, especially because I wear my religion on my head. My professionalism suddenly became an issue. One question I was asked at a job interview was whether I would be willing to enter a nightclub to chase a story. I answered: ‘If it’s part of the job, why not? And you can rest assured I won’t be tempted to have fun.’
When I attend media events, before I can introduce myself, people assume I write for the Malay daily Berita Harian. A male Malay colleague in The Straits Times has the same problem, too.
This makes me wonder if people also assume that all Chinese reporters are from Lianhe Zaobao and Indian reporters from Tamil Murasu.
People also question if I can do stories which require stake-outs in the sleazy lanes of Geylang. They say because of my tudung I will stick out like a sore thumb. So I changed into a baseball cap and a men’s sports jacket - all borrowed from my husband - when I covered Geylang.
I do not want to be seen as different from the rest just because I dress differently. I want the same opportunities and the same job challenges.
Beneath the tudung, I, too, have hair and a functioning brain. And if anything, I feel that my tudung has actually helped me secure some difficult interviews.
Newsmakers - of all races - tend to trust me more because I look guai (Hokkien for well-behaved) and thus, they feel, less likely to write critical stuff about them.
Recently, I had a conversation with several colleagues about this essay. I told them I never thought of myself as being particularly patriotic. One Chinese colleague thought this was unfair. ‘But you got to enjoy free education,’ she said.
Sure, for the entire 365 days I spent in Primary 1 in 1989. But my parents paid for my school and university fees for the next 15 years I was studying.
It seems that many Singaporeans do not know that Malays have stopped getting free education since 1990. If I remember clearly, the news made front-page news at that time.
We went on to talk about the Singapore Government’s belief that Malays here would never point a missile at their fellow Muslim neighbours in a war.
I said if not for family ties, I would have no qualms about leaving the country. Someone then remarked that this is why Malays like myself are not trusted. But I answered that this lack of patriotism on my part comes from not being trusted, and for being treated like a potential traitor.
It is not just the NS issue. It is the frustration of explaining to non-Malays that I don’t get special privileges from the Government. It is having to deal with those who question my professionalism because of my religion. It is having people assume, day after day, that you are lowly educated, lazy and poor. It is like being the least favourite child in a family. This child will try to win his parents’ love only for so long. After a while, he will just be engulfed by disappointment and bitterness.
I also believe that it is this ‘least favourite child’ mentality which makes most Malays defensive and protective of their own kind.
Why do you think Malay families spent hundreds of dollars voting for two Malay boys in the Singapore Idol singing contest? And do you know that Malays who voted for other competitors were frowned upon by the community?
The same happens to me at work. When I write stories which put Malays in a bad light, I am labelled a traitor. A Malay reader once wrote to me to say: ‘I thought a Malay journalist would have more empathy for these unfortunate people than a non-Malay journalist.’
But such is the case when you are a Malay Singaporean. Your life is not just about you, as much as you want it to be. You are made to feel responsible for the rest of the pack and your actions affect them as well. If you trip, the entire community falls with you. But if you triumph, it is considered everyone’s success.
When 12-year-old Natasha Nabila hit the headlines last year for her record PSLE aggregate of 294, I was among the thousands of Malays here who celebrated the news. I sent instant messages to my friends on Gmail and chatted excitedly with my Malay colleagues at work.
Suddenly a 12-year-old has become the symbol of hope for the community and a message to the rest that Malays can do it too - and not just in singing competitions.
And just like that, the ‘least favourite child’ in me feels a lot happier.
Each year, come Aug 9, my father, who never had the opportunity to do national service, dutifully hangs two flags at home - one on the front gate and the other by the side gate.
I wonder if putting up two flags is his way of making himself feel like a better-loved child of Singapore.
ndianah@sph.com.sg
By UpholdjusticeAuthor Profile Page on June 25, 2009 10:29 AM
Dear hisham76,
It seems that you are very concerned about racism in Singapore.You have already admitted racism there is highly subtle.
But why don't you protest against race based policy in this country where racism is very rampant?
Gajah di pelupuk mata tidak terlihat, kuman di sebelah lautan terlihat,who is really a hypocrite?
comment:
Racism in Singapore is non of my concern. The point I'm bringing forward is for the education of the 'ungrateful non-natives immigrants' who keep on harping on " race based policy in Malaysia "
I believe most races in Malaysia are well represented by their own particular race and just because your own kind have been ripping you off please do not blame the natives. You see, unless you changed your name to a natives name like in America where the Afro -American adopt a Caucasian name, their religion,culture and speaks their language (for I dont see the great USA funding a Swahili speaking school), there's not much I can do for you.
Here the government is honest with you, telling you the cake shall be shared according to the percentage of the population. It might not be perfect but they are doing their best. Through these policies, I'm not surprised when I received an email from a Singaporean who is taking his PHD in University of Oxford. The following are his comments:
"Went to Malaysian students' deeparaya night yesterday.... and it makes me more positive that Malaysia is poised to be a fantastic nation. Every race is well represented. What 's so bad about the NEP when I see Chinese, Indian and Malay students here all with scholarships from the Malaysian government or corporations. And every one is so friendly and warm and best of all so "down to earth". It s 'truly Asia". You just have to be with the Malaysians in Oxford for you to feel that the NEP, even though it has teething problem implementation-wise, the policy objectives over time are seeing results. Let us separate the policy from the implementation. Do not hurry...you will get there somehow." (which he did not enjoy although his leader were harping on how they rule base on Meritocracy)
Being an outsider I believes he could see clearly what you could not, for you are what you are in your own words "Gajah di pelupuk mata tidak terlihat, kuman di sebelah lautan terlihat"
Dengan Izin Tun..Terima kasih..
Bravo Empress..I salutes your courage under fire or not..Keep us posted...Thank you...)
I curse the day I was born a Singaporean'
Published by Seelan Palay on Tuesday, June 30, 2009
Letter by Olinda Brazil originally published at Malaysiakini.com
It is very amusing to see how Malaysians (probably of the minority races) have spasms of ecstasy when referring to Lee Kuan Yew (LKY) in Malaysian forums. From across the border in Malaysia, Singapore seems like Wonderland and LKY like a benevolent god.
As a Chinese Singaporean, born of Malaysian parents who took up citizenship here in Singapore, I can understand why they feel this way. The grouses are familiar: NEP, corruption and ineptitude in governance.
Let me provide an insight on how it is like to be a Singaporean. I must first stress that new immigrants or Permanent Residents (PRs) from Malaysia (like my parents) will not experience any disadvantages. It is the children of these people (like me) or new PRs' children (who will be Singaporean) who will feel the disadvantages most sorely, and curse the fact they were born in Singapore:
On the relative development of both countries - Singpore developed well largely due to early good advice given to LKY, its strategic position, the lack of natural disasters and its easily-governable size. Malaysia lags behind in spite of its natural resources because of its larger size, poorer planning/ execution, more difficult decision-making and corruption.
However, Singapore has problems at present because its development model is outdated. As LKY still insists on the methods recommended tens of years ago, trouble is looming. There is no impetus to change because there is no one who dares to disagree. The media prints only propaganda, the courts will always find the government blameless as the government runs 70% of the economy.
The opposition has been persecuted to the point where only those with nothing to lose will dare to oppose, and the common people are scared to death of arbitrary arrest.
Yes, corruption is more widespread in Malaysia. But in Singapore, it also exists - though restricted to the top political elite and in a legalised form. In Malaysia, many get a share of the cake but in Singapore, only a select few get a share of the cake.
Many scoff at the position of the Malay rulers. But are they aware of the many dubious acts of LKY and his cronies - his ‘cooperation’ with the wartime Japanese, then the Communists and then the British (he betrayed the latter two in the end)?
And the actions taken by him and his courts to destroy the opposition, moves which are reported in a twisted manner by his press? A shining example of good character?
Yes, up till recently, Singapore was performing excellently. But at the same time, the ordinary people had the fruits of their labour taken away. We seem rich but yet are in debt. The government apartments are now exorbitantly priced. Cars are a necessity (given the poor performance of the profit-oriented public transport companies) but are also exorbitantly priced.
Much of our money is locked in the Provident Fund and it is becoming impossible to get it back while we are still alive. Yes, all races are treated equally - and they are sucked dry equally. This is the pivotal point in times when things became bad. By the way, the money in the Provident Fund (as well as in the reserves) is used for investment - for which there is almost no transparency and accountability.
Huge losses have been incurred in the current crisis yet the ruling party still baulks at spending a million or two on the poor. Oh, and we spend twice as much on defence as Malaysia despite being at least 400 times smaller.
Instead of addressing the root of the problems, LKY's son (yes, his son - by the way did Dr Mahathir install his son as prime minister?) decided to take action on only one aspect of the problem, in a negative manner. Instead of lowering costs for citizens, and therefore maintaining wage levels, he decided to import foreigners to lower cost.
It is effective - foreigners earn much more per hour than they do back home. They are stuck with the same employer for the duration of their visa, hence they are obedient. If they are sacked, they have to go home. And home means facing unpaid debts which they incurred in getting to Singapore. So which foreign worker will dare to resist exploitation?
This means the ‘choosy’ Singaporeans get to twiddle thumbs at home. And would the Singaporean ministers care? They are paid $S$2 million basic per year, a performance bonus of up to eight months, and get a pension when they reach retirement age. Good clean governance, huh? Oh yes, the judges are paid the same too so not surprisingly they always find for the government.
Malaysians are LKY's top choice. It gratifies him to poach bright minority students which his old pal Dr Mahathir had educated. They get good jobs (there is supposedly a quota to be filled), will not get sacked (as it means they go back to Dr M) and are favoured by corporations, as they do not have national service obligations.
None want to be citizens - at the end of the day, they will retire to the Malaysia (which they hate so much) to enjoy the Singapore dollar’s strength. God have mercy on the children they leave behind!
Currently one person in three is a foreigner in Singapore. The press chooses to obfuscate matters by lumping citizens and PRs together in their reporting (as 'resident population') so the huge number of foreigners in Singapore is understated.
To all Malaysians who love LKY, you have to be ruled by him, not as a PR turned citizen, but as a born and bred Singaporean, to understand that he is not what you think.Y ou curse Dr Mahathir because you know LKY will treat you like lords. You are correct but very shortsighted and shallow.
Dr Mahathir may be much less than perfect, but only ignorant fools will say LKY is better than him. Singapore residents receive two broadsheet pages daily on how bad things are in Malaysia, but no Singaporean commentator will blast LKY and compare him to Dr Mahathir.
Why? Because it is stupid to compare - we have not been ruled by Dr Mahathir or Umno so how are we able to compare? Using anecdotal evidence supplied by privileged fellow countrymen is poor practice.
To the few writers (Malays?) in Singapore who viewed Singapore's meritocracy as flawed:
I think the various experiences recounted can possibly be attributed to racist behaviours by certain Singapore employers.
It is important to note that racism exists everywhere, Malaysia included. Such is life, and no matter how much humans try, racism cannot be totally eliminated (not least in our lifetime).
It is incorrect to attribute racist encounters in Singapore to the lack of meritocracy as a basic principle adopted by Singapore society. Singapore society practices meritocracy in most areas. Be it the civil service, education, politics, and the private sector.
While some has noted that there aren't many malays in the Singapore political ranks, it should be noted that there are many indians. Why, if its not because the india ministers has earned their positions based on meritocracy? Or maybe some choose to think in terms of the convenient "answer" that there is a secret agenda in Singapore against Singaporean malays? The Malaysian politicians has suggested that the malays in malaysia would have fallen further behind if not for the bumi policies. What would happen if a true meritocracy system is implemented in Malaysia? Could there be a chance that the Singapore experience is what you may perhaps see in Malaysia under such hypothetical situation?
With regards to the military, Singapore has openly communicated that there are certain sensitivity in the selection of certain malays for military positions, as many malays in Singapore has close family ties with malays in the region. When it comes to defense, if a soldier is being put into position to chose between its family and country, it would be a tough position to be in. The issue is therefore not about meritocracy per se.
Ezani on June 18
You just keep saying I am stupid but never prove that I am stupid.
Just to transfer technology a bit Iskandar needs foreign capital, support and know-how. If you try to keep everything to yourself the project will be still born. Is that very hard to understand??
How I wish all malaysians including Tun are as clever as you, then no need to worry.
Dear Tun, salam sejahtera harap sihat bahagia. Minta izin memberi pandangan pada sebuah kiriman Mat S'pore....
Pandangan pada 'hisham76' on June 24, 2009 1:14 AM
..............PILIH BULU
The difference in your response to a ‘Mat’ (aniesa) and an obvious non Malay (tuffy) shows the colour of your character. Accomodating, polite to one but brutish and arrogant to the other, due to race not opinion. They are both against the ‘we’ and ‘them’ mentality in race matters.
.............HIDUNG TAK MANCUNG
Why does a S’porean Malay stick his nose in M’sian domestic affairs and has the cheek and gall to call M'sians ingrates? What have you done or sacrificed for them to qualify calling them names as if they owe you!! You dont even pay M'sian tax! In what way are they obligated to a nosy Malay S'porean?
You don’t fully understand the situation here when you mentioned M’sian govt majority ‘happens to be Malays’. Only S’poreans will believe it is by default not design (the overwhelming majority). I don’t want to argue this is not fair, but don’t ever say it’s by accident!
.............HAK MENGHALAU
Get a M’sian citizenship and earn your ‘right’ to evict other M’sians! Your M’sian citizenship is pre approved and guaranteed. Come back and help the eviction process. I am waiting your eviction notice. Even before being a citizen you are already arrogant enough to ask others to leave just cos you are Malay (actually S’porean)
Don’t claim to represent the accommodating Malays (who are not in this blog), speak for yourself !! Your citizenship application will be processed the same way you described S'pore's procedure, just that it is now in your favour. I am not complaining your favoured status, as I believe a human is good or bad by his actions not his color. A country in the end deserves the type of people it has!
............SEJARAH PENGHIJRAH
On different status of immigrants in different countries, there is something called history. As Tun suggested, it will help you understand why you and things are what they are.
PS: My advice is focus on graduating from your university and help your race. A good horse can pull a hundred carriages, a bull will only tangle with the matador. The cow will end up typing eviction notices.
US TAX RULES AFFECTING SINGAPORE
http://www.thereformparty.net/
RUNNING OUT OF IDEAS........!
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/
DANGERS OF ELITISM.......
http://singaporemind.blogspot.com/2009/06/illusion-of-superiority-and-dangers-of.html
Somehow, Malaysian government always lacks the credibility. It doesn't show that it can be trusted, especially when dealing with our southern neighbor.
Hello Tun,
You are truly a JAGUH KAMPUNG!!!
1) You have millions of Kampung Minded Fans.
2) You are barking at World Class Country while you as PM for 22 years couldn't develope Malaysia into 1st class.
3) Proton rated the worst car in UK but No. 1 car in Malaysia.
4) We brag we have world class KLCC but please visit our DBKL public toilet. Please experience yourself.
6) Singapore has world class public transport. Please hike a Taxi yourself. Take a bus. You will understand you shouldn't build KLCC but use the money to improve public transport.
7) Our ringgit & sen are no match to Singapore dollar in terms of value.
8) You lose out in the international standard but you are still No.1 in Malaysia.
9) All Singaporeans entitle the same citizens' privileges. But Malaysian you need to be a Malay to enjoy Bumi discounts, uni & IPO. I wanted to ask you, I born in Malaysia, I pay the same tax but my citizen privileges are different from Malay. This is RACIST! I am not a foreigner, I am a Malaysian!
10) If Singapore Malay are poor because of a racist goverment, why Malaysian Malays are still so poor with all the Bumi perks?? Your goverment pocketed their money for 22 years and continue doing it.
10) For the past 22 years you corrupted the Malay mind and you are still continue doing it. Wake up!
Bravo! Malaysia boleh.
Selamat pagi Ayahanda Tun,
Izinkan.....
//By samuraimelayu on June 23, 2009 10:20 AM
ADIK KU 'HBT',
ALLOW US TO QUOTE THE PM IN BM ' RAKYAT DIDAHULUKAN, PRESTASI DI UTAMAKAN'. THAT'S HIS SLOGAN TO HIS CABINET//
Dear abg samuraimelayu,
Thank you abg samuraimelayu. You have scored AAA as rakyat in KPI by repying my help within 2 hours. The new KPI is 3 days because "Kerajaan" Organization is huge and they need this 3 days to get the work done, wow, very efficient our Kerajaan now, GOOD JOB!!!!
//ALLOW US TO SCRIBBLE OUR SLOGAN FOR 'SYOK SENDIRI' ONLY.
'PANCARKAN SAYANG, RASAKAN NADI( POTRAY LOVE, FEEL THE IMPULSE)
BERSATU KITA TEGUH, BERPECAH KITA ROBOH.(UNITED WE CHERISH, BREAK WE PERISH)'//
Yes, as abg and adik, crony or friends, rakyat of our multi-racial, we too need private moment to syiok diri ma.... We are human beings, bukan angel or FANATIK!!!
May "Allah" be with you always, and take care. I love your comment on Mr Ravi and I laughed like pakbelalang - kah..kah..kah... I pun nak syiok diri ma...when confronted with so much politics entah apanama!!!!
Me too,will never stop reminding ourselves that vision 2020 is not for us but for our generations (anak cucu) to come because we have BRAIN WITH HEART, Actions speak louder than talking (it is analyising for Hanan and Tempered, good in writing and reseach, but do not know how to apply, what for men!!!!)
Good day Ayahanda Tun.
Salam Buat Yg Bhg. Tun,
May I suggest this about the water conrtact with Singapore. They recently built new reservoir or plant or something with new technology for NEWATER, with the ministers happily cut the ribbon to officiate the event. Can't we just trade the raw water with our waste water from the toilet instead? I think at 3 sen, that is what its worth these days.
WHAT SAY YOU?
Kind regards
LKY's THOUGHTS......
http://wayangparty.com/?p=10332
DEAR SBA dated 25/6/09 at 4.29pm
IF EVERY BIRD BRAIN SINGAPORE MALAY IS GOING TO LEAVE SINGAPORE BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING TREATED THIRD CLASS CITIZENS, THEN THERE WILL BE NO MALAYS EXISTING IN SINGAPORE AT ALL. MELAYU SUDAH HABIS DI-SINGAPURA! ALL THE MORE REASON FOR THEM TO GET RID OF MALAY AS THE NATIONAL LANGUAGE, SINCE THERE ARE NO MORE MALAYS IN SINGAPORE.
STAY BACK AND SPEAK OUT FOR YOUR EVERY MALAY SINGAPOREAN RIGHTS AND FOR EVERY FREE INDIVIDUAL, REGARDLESS OF RACE. WHO BELIVES IN RESPONSIBLE FREE DEMOCRACY. HENCE DO GO AHEAD RIGHT HERE !
RACIST ATTITUDES IN ADVANCED EDUCATED SIN.....
HOW SAD....!!
http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/take-my-photo-again-she-said/
Yawning Bread. 11 May 2009
Archiving J B Jeyaretnam's papers for posterity
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JBJ ARCHIVING
The late J B Jeyaretnam (JBJ) was an important figure in Singapore's political history from the 1970s to his passing last year. Now that he's gone, what does one do with his papers and other objects that represent his life's work?
Against all odds, Jeyaretnam won the Anson by-election in 1981, becoming the first opposition politician to break the People's Action Party's (PAP) monopoly of parliamentary seats since the mid 1960s. His victory set in motion a series of reactive changes to the PAP's behaviour, leading to the many features of Singapore's political scene today, such as defamation suits and Group Representation Constituencies, further reinforcing other repressive habits like tight controls over the media.
Together with Chiam See Tong, Jeyaretnam was the face of dogged opposition to the PAP for a decade until new leaders emerged in the 1990s.
For many years J B Jeyaretnam tirelessly spread his message about the government's oppressive style by selling books at street corners. Picture from The Economist
It must be obvious that his notes and letters, representing as they do his thoughts, obstacles and battle plans, are a rich mine for future historians. Even simple objects like an election poster could be part of future exhibitions, to inform another generation of Singaporeans of this man's role in defining Singapore.
So where should they go to now?
International Institute of Social History
Yesterday, I met Emile Schwidder and Eef Vermeij of the International Institute of Social History, based in Amsterdam. Partly funded by the Dutch government, the institute is interested in archiving material relevant to their mission. As I understand it, they are in contact with the Jeyaretnam family about JBJ's papers, though final agreement has not yet been reached.
The institute catalogs all the material it receives, removes all rubber and metal elements, e.g. paper clips, packs them in acid-free boxes and stores them its own climate-controlled warehouse. The catalogs will be put online, and they have even started a project to digitise material starting with some really significant ones like the manuscripts of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.
Access to the papers for research will be liberal, but subject to agreement with the family, who will remain owners of the material. This means that certain papers may be held as confidential for a long while.
The institute also loans out material for exhibitions around the world. One of the most interesting next year will be material relating to Henk Sneevliet, who around 1914 founded a workers' union that eventually became the Indonesian Communist Party. In 1920/21, he was sent by Vladimir Lenin as Comintern representative to the founding of the Chinese Communist Party, which he helped set up. He's mostly forgotten by Indonesians, especially after the communists' failed putsch in 1965, but the Chinese are interested and have contacted the institute to loan the material. Henk Sneevliet had a Chinese name: Ma-ling.
Other stuff the Chinese government might not (yet) be so interested in would be the materials from the 1970s' "Democracy Wall" movement and around the time of the Tiananmen crackdown in 1989.
The institute also has many other items relating to communists in Indonesia, particularly before and after the 1965 events. Other growing collections relate to the Burmese opposition movement and social movements in Nepal and the Philippines.
One particularly moving item they have is the blood-stained shirt of Lean Alejandro, a student activist who campaigned for democracy. Alejandro was shot and killed in 1987, aged 27, and the gunmen are still unidentified. For a story on this brave young man, see UP activist Lean Alejandro remembered 20 years after killing.
Appeal
Currently, JBJ's materials are lying in various boxes in different locations -- I can imagine it's going to be a lot of work sorting them out. But this may be dwarfed by a bigger problem: Since he was with the Workers' Party for some of the most important years of his political life, much material may be there... if they are still there.
Meanwhile, this is an appeal to anyone who has material related to JBJ to contact his elder son Kenneth Jeyaretnam. It could be old copies of The Hammer published at the time when JBJ was secretary-general of the Workers' Party, election posters, banners or flyers. It could be letters, photographs or news clippings... anything like that. They will help flesh out the memory of the man and enable future generations to better understand his role and significance.
National Archives
But what about our National Archives? some readers might ask. Isn't that what they are supposed to do?
I would have thought so too, but one cannot but wonder whether they are even interested. That said, I understand that they recorded about 60 hours of oral history from JBJ, so it's not as if they are totally ignoring his legacy.
Yet, even if our National Archives are interested, I can't help but wonder how they are going to handle the material once they have received them. Speaking just for myself, not for the Jeyaretnam family, questions that arise are: Will there be open access? Will some materials mysteriously disappear? Will confidential material remain confidential, especially if the information therein proves politically useful to the ruling party?
It is a sad reflection of the corruption that has crept into our country's institutions that we instinctively ask such questions. We all know that lines have been blurred between state, government and ruling party. In fact, it is part of JBJ's legacy that we have been shown this.
© Yawning Bread
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To JJJ
Yes i do believe Malays have equal rights as any citizen in Singapore. Yes i do know what the May 13th incident is about. If you have investigated your facts, you must know that the race riots in Singapore were the result of a spillover effect of the race riots in Malaysia. The race riots in Singapore began as a result of rumors of Malay atrocities against the Chinese population in Malaysia.this of course, lead to dissatisfaction within the Chinese population in Singapore, which culminated into the riots that Singapore witnessed. It had nothing to do with racial inequality.
I repeat. Singapore respects the rights of the Malays and recognizes them as the original inhabitants of Singapore. There is a reason why we made malay the national language and sing our national anthem in the malay language.
I quote: "NOW CAN YOU TELL ME IF TUDUNG ISSUE IN SCHOOLS,AZAN IN MOSQUES,LIMITING THE NUMBER OF INTAKE TO RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS (the list is almost endless)IN LINE WITH THEIR CONSTITUTION?"
It is to the schools discretion as to whether to allow the student to don a tudung during school hours. I'm sure she can enroll in a madrasah if she feels compelled to don the headscarf. Do not take this the wrong way, i am fully supportive of the tudung being allowed in schools.
The intake of madrasashs are restricted for a reason. The education standard of madrasahs are comparatively lower than that of other governmental institutions. This is a source of great alarm for a government that views education as extremely important, thus the limitation of students entering the madrasahs.
There are many Malays in high positions of authority. For example, the speaker of parliament Abdullah Tarmugi, prof Yaacob Ibrahim. Im sure few Malays in Malaysia remember that the first president of Singapore (Yusof Ishak) was a malay.
JJJ, you state that Malays in Singapore are being marginalized and discriminated against. i have provided examples to prove they're not.
i would like to see how you can show that Malaysia treats its non-Malay citizens equally and fairly.
Maybe Dr. Mahathir can help?
Hi Amir Aziz and S Tan,
Before I proceed, let me introduce myself a little so that I am not being positioned in the racist group. First of all, I am mix between Chinese and Malay but obviously much more Chinese that denies me Bumi rights. Secondly, I had vast experiences working with various multi-nationals locally and internationally.
I am not trying to favour S Tan but he has some of his points very right. When I was the Regional/Country manager in sales and marketing during my career in Malaysia, I tried promoting multi racial sales team across the country but ended up with Chinese and Indian staffs. I employed four Malays ( local graduates ) and none lasted more than 6 months. This was owing to various factors; Sleeping at home during working hours, late for work, poor technical knowledge and etc. I asked one of my collegue who is a Malay himself graduating from UK ( He was and is still HR Director till now) about Malay graduates and he asked me to select ONLY overseas graduates as they are the cream of the Malays. My predicament is that all of those creams are unavailable due to fact that they are all attached to the GLC after being granted scholarships by Malaysian government.
That is exactly the reason why GLC's have majority Malays and public sectors have majority non-Bumi employees.
Amir, do you think Public sectors ( Multi National companies ) are employing staffs base on race base policy? The answer is NO. Bottom line is profit for the share holders.
I am writing this to encourage local Bumi graduates to be awaken, stand up and avoid finding reason for under achieving...
Tun,
How do you feel when you read that Genting Bhd beat other Singapore GLCs to run the multi billion dollar casino project in Sentosa, YTL invest billion on dollars on Singapore power station and the brain child behind Singapore F1 is actually a Malaysian?
bitter sweet feeling isnt it?
salam Tun,
jangan ditegak benang yang basah,
In Singapore the Chinese are richest,Malays poor = no action taken = racism.We have proven that racism exist there.
In Malaysia Chinese still the richest,Malays poor = affirmative actions taken = close the wealth gap = what racism?Please provide proof or shut up!
Upholdjustice,up yours!
to Godfather,be prepared to slug and be slugged!
Jeng3
Salam Hormat Tun,
I am a 46 year-old Malay Singaporean and I've always held you in high regard and found your blog very informative and it has given me great insights to world happenings - political or otherwise. Tun, with all due respects to you, this is my very first post in a forum and I would have started by being just a plain observer. However, I have noted some posts, especially the ones I've referred to below, which were of interest to me and I was compelled to comment.
I find the comments by aniesa and DR Sanjeev Kumar very interesting as they had directly or indirectly affected me, as a Malay Singaporean.
Let me begin, as a silent observer of the social/economic/political environment in Singapore. The article, "The Charade of Meritocracy" best sums up, in my opinion, what the general population of Singapore already knows. Acceptance of those facts and being vocal about it is another matter, as most Singaporeans would never, in their wildest dreams, dare to criticise the government's policies openly.
On DR Sanjeev Kumar's comments dtd 15th June and aniesa's dtd 18th June, I must say that I do not totally disagree with their comments. On the topic of "meritocracy" in Singapore, the following conversation took place with the Singapore Armed Forces recruitment officer when I was called up for National Service in 1985 after serving as cadet officer onboard merchant cargo ships and having obtained the relevant qualifications from an institute of higher learning, may enlighten both writers about meritocracy in Singapore:
Me: Sir, I am requesting to be posted to the Republic of Singapore Navy as a Radar Plotter after completing my Basic Military Training. I also intend to have a successful career in the navy.
SAF Officer: (After looking at my qualifications which included Radar and other Electronic Navigation Systems certificates ) I'm so sorry, you're over qualified for this post.
Me: Sir, I would be very interested to join the navy as a full-time serviceman as I have had 2 and a half years of training onboard cargo ships and I liked working at sea.
SAF Officer: You will have problems with food.
Me: Sir, Singapore being a multi-racial / multi-religious country, are you telling me that the navy do not cater food for Muslims like the other services in the SAF do?
SAF Officer: Oh...(blushing)....please wait for our letter regarding your request. You are dismissed now.
Of course the letter never arrived until I finished the compulsory national service in 1987:-)
My question is, what does "over-qualified" mean. And, did being "over-qualified" within the SAF context disqualified me from being a radar plotter in the Singapore Navy? What then? A sizeable number of qualified mariners (master mariners, deck officers and marine engineers) from the merchant navy in singapore are Malays who could have become competent naval officers in the Singapore navy but are there any? And THIS is definitely not the only sector of the singapore armed forces totally devoid of Malays.
To DR Sanjeev Kumar and Aniesa, I write from experience - an unfortunate one at that. Having read your posts, I assume that you both, one a Malaysian and one a "JAVANESE" singaporean, are well-placed in society in Singapore. DR Sanjeev Kumar, does the DR in your name refer to 'doctor'? In any case I would assume that you are a professional working in Singapore so it would do you well to expand your circle of Malay friends in Singapore so that you may properly conclude, if indeed the typical Malay Singaporean is a happy one. FYI, I am currently awaiting approval of my employment pass to work in Malaysia where I have been offered a reasonable position with expat benefits/priveleges in the maritime industry, a position I dared not even dream about in singapore. And I intend to dump my Singapore citizenship the first chance I get when I'm already in Malaysia.
Just as you could go on about your perceptions of the Singaporean Malays and Singapore, my list of grievances is endless but I'd rather not continue lest it gets ugly and in so doing, subject myself to undesired legal chapters of the LKY's and the Singapore government's policies.
I, too, envy your Singapore Malay friends' well-deserved wealth acquired on their own merits - "meritocracy?" is such a wonderful word. Personally, I am totally against receiving help or hand-outs from the government or well-connected people but in Singapore, however, the Malays would definitely need the government's help. Help to eradicate the singapore-styled "MERITOCRACY", that is. See???? I AM getting emotional....hahaha.
With regards to your knowledge pertaining to the "discounts" offered to citizens, did you also know that the HDB's allocation of housing is race-based? And about your asking many (HOW MANNY???) Malays whether they preferred living in Singapore or Malaysia, I am sure being Singaporeans, they would not admit to wanting to uproot from a "developed nation" to a "backward country"...kiasu-ism at play here. More freedom??? Freedom to do what??? apart from the one having to do with the Jabatan Agama? Give us some credit, sir. Singaporean Malays in general are not as small minded as the ones you've met i.e. the ones whose idea of freedom is the freedom to xxxx without inteference from the Jabatan Agama. This must surely be the biggest insult to your circle of "wealth-acquired-without-any-help" Malay friends in Singapore.
Aniesa, being a "Javanese" Singaporean, maybe you could enlighten me about Singapore better than a Malaysian, perhaps? I am not anti-Non Malay, in fact a big chunk of my closest friends in singapore are non-Malays, specifically Chinese. I have voiced out my grievances to these Chinese friends and even told them I would move to Malaysia. They had wanted to know why I was willing to become a second-class citizen in another country. My reply to them was it would be better to be a 2nd-class citizen elsewhere rather than being a 3rd-class citizen in my own country. And you know what??? They totally agreed with me.
Dear hisham76,
It seems that you are very concerned about racism in Singapore.You have already admitted racism there is highly subtle.
But why don't you protest against race based policy in this country where racism is very rampant?
Gajah di pelupuk mata tidak terlihat, kuman di sebelah lautan terlihat,who is really a hypocrite?
Have been reading most of the comments. Like a war zone in here. Malaysians and Singaporeans when they don't meet face to face they are the greatest enemies. But when they sit and drink and eat on one table they are best of friends. LKY and Tun also the same when they don't meet they kutuk each other when they meet face to face they are like good buddies. Well typical right Malaysians and Singaporeans. Every country , person, politician has its or their own strength and weakness. Some of us love Tun some hate him. God created us this way. Imagine what will happen if all of us think alike and have no difference in opinions, we will be living in a very funny world. The best we can do is respect each other. If we don't agree its up to us but never forget to respect the opinion of others no matter we agree to it or not.
Love u TUN regards to our great mum of Malaysia (Tun Siti hasmah)
Dear Tun, salam mesra harap sihat bahagia. Minta izin memberi penjelasan pada seorang pengulas.......
Ini sedikit penjelasan pada 'amir aziz' on June 24, 2009 9:47 AM
...............UBAT ANGIN
If you are not smearing or demonizing any race with your posting, no need to ‘naik angin’. It is not about you then.
Congratulations if you are sincerely for educating bumiputeras for progress not institutionalised domination. I am happy if your heart is with poor bumiputeras, the type that struggles for survival not supremacy (via 'rights').
...............MENGHALAU
Tun’s blog invites comments (Leave a comment) and he decides whose comments get posted. Don’t stress yourself over Tun’s actions.You have no say or control, but you can grumble like all the rest.
...............MALAYSIAN WHATEVER!
On M’sian M’sia, nobody knows how it will turn out. Theory and practice are two different things, as proven by Umno’s NEP. It has transformed into a racist affirmative action instead of a benevolent affirmative action. I am rejecting a proven bad product, at the same time I will not reject something that has not proven itself bad.
...............SURVIVAL OR SUPREMACY
True, I don’t really know why bumi prefer govt service, but my opinion is a fair and reasonable assumption from the numbers. Similarly public sector inefficiency in business is the reason communism fails and why govt should not be in business and the basis for my assumption they are more likely to tolerate loss incurring behavior.
If bumiputeras turn to govt sector for survival, don’t you think the non bumi in private sector may also be there for survival. So it’s square, why raise the issue. But a survival place become 95% dominated and the 'discriminated' place is more balanced.. Who is the discriminator? Strange but true!
Dear Tun, salam mesra harap sihat sejahtera. Kiriman ini singkat untuk cuba mana satu lepas sekatan....
.............CHANGING HISTORY
History evolves with time and we should learn from history to avoid repeating the same mistakes. However what is past is past.
Some M'sian's family history changed from Indian to Malay just like S'pore's history has changed. While S'pore's ancestry is not denied, history has changed S'pore. Similarly the same person's ancestry is unchanged but history has changed him into a Malay.
While you can talk about the ancestry, it is wrong to use it for racial demonization, hate mongering and peddling fear. Which is what this blog visitors do.
JJJ:
Katak bawah tempurung. Neither Singapore nor LKY need any defending. Only the corrupt, the negligent and the incompetent need defending. Allah gave this country with all the natural resources that Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong will die for. Instead we are still third world while these countries are all first world. Where did all the vast natural resources go to ? Tun M knows better than most. What happens when we are a net importer of oil in 2014 ? Tun M knows that too.
Where will you be, JJJ ? Still sucking your lollipop and hoping the country can bail you out ?
Godfather
As a Malay Singaporean, it's super hard to find a job here. Almost 80 percent of the jobs out there requires Mandarin speakers. It makes me wonder why I'm not being taught Mandarin in school since it's actually crucial to learn it and no one is complaining about this.
Salam Tun..............Mintak lalu sekejap.... hangin la dengan mamat nie.... Not even understand the problem... just like to turn the issue... over and over.....
>>Private sector 'discrimination' BY JS Tan...............?
For private company salaries, you seriously believe there is organized discrimination? A profit oriented company (which must pay tax) would forsake a valuable employee based on his race by paying him less?
It is unthinkable for a private company to keep an employee(for his race) and sustain losses, and give up another (due to his race) who brings him profit. A govt agency or GLC will do it, cos the loss is not theirs, it is the tax payers!! A private company will go bankrupt.
Look at overall employment scenario. For Malay, first choice is govt service (better prospects given the domination) second is private sector. So the less qualified go to private sector (generally)
Look at non Malays, first choice private sector (better prospects, govt dominated by bumi) second choice govt. So the best get in private sector. So in private sector the frontliner (of other races) competes with the second liners (of bumi).
Naturally the bumi will get the poorer salaries and lesser jobs due to this factor. Only the govt can redress this imbalance, dont blame the other races.
MY POSTING IS...............
My personal question.... In Which sector did you attach?
Are you a real business man? Start your own business? Are you an entrepreneur? Are you just working for someone else and get your perks every month end? If that is the case…. You KNOW nothing regard the real problem in malaysia…(What we discuss here in chedet.cc is more about how to educate Malaysia especially bumiputera in building Malaysian without loosing what we already have – commitment among all race. Try to be HERO? Open your own BLOGGG… U can talk and said everything that u think right… Nobody want to listen to you?? That is your problems… mean that you are not GOOD.) What you write it’s just from someone that think he is good by getting his perks at every month end and belief that changing Malaysian to MALAYSIAN MALAYSIAN will make Malaysia prosper to everybody especially TRUE MALAYSIAN (1 MALAYSIAN la…) I truly said that you are wrong… We will see in this PRU13.
Firstly... understand yourself... don’t mention about GLC's... Tax Payer Money...GLC's dare to loose money because it is not their money.... What a crap….... Why those bumiputera like’s to work with government? Are you sure with your statement? Please line up those of them? They want to participate in private sector…. But it’s a limitation of area…. They need to survive their life… Joint in government sector is not a choice for them…. Only for a sake of survival!!!!! There is a lot of good bumiputera edger for the challenge…. Please understand my message in earlier posting…. If you can’t………………………………… u decided la….
salam Tun,
As expected LKY's blind worshippers here will defend him at all costs,turning a blind eye to the cronisyms and nepotisms.
We see a lot of your feeble excuses as y'all will always look down on your own country's achievements.Shame on you.One more time,please emigrate!
It's actually your inner racist instincts being unleashed here on cyberspace.
Don't bullshit too much.LKY is a little emperor and his family has a finger in every pie!Talk about cronisym!Why can't you just accept the truth and the facts even after I presented proof of the myth of meritocracy?Godfather,I am now calling you blind!
You guys still proud huh?
Jeng3
singapore is a democratic and not racist country?
ahahaha... eat my foot...
LKY say:
Boyan is not Malay...
Javanese is not Malay...
Bugis is not Malay...
but why don't LKY say the same thing about:
Hokkien is not Chinese...
Hakka is not Chinese...
Teochew is not Chinese...
Awakening from a DREAM
http://singaporerecalcitrant.blogspot.com/
Assalamua'laikum Tun dan keluarga,
Satu kefahaman ada timbul di sini,
perjanjian air yg termetrai adalah perjanjian dengan persetujuan dua pihak yg terlibat ketika perjanjian ber kenaan....
Bagaimana pula dengan perjanjian dalam penubuhan negara Malaysia pula...telah berlaku perjanjian beberapa pihak ketika ini dan termaktub dalam perlembaggan..
bagaimana saudara ku rakyat Malaysia sekalian. Perjanjian ini menjadikan kita MALAYSIA KINI..
kerana perjanjian itu Singapura dapat bekalan air yg cukup murah..
boleh kita fikirkan sejenak..
Dear Sir,
By tuffyAuthor Profile Page on June 23, 2009 11:14 AM
1)"I am a Malaysian and talking all this not because I stand aside of Singapore, after all, their prosperous doesn’t increase my well-being. I am writing this forum because the minority non-malays are simply rip-off by our government."
2)When you accused Singapore is a leech? How is it a leech can develop so well?
Comment:
It seems that your second comment answer your first, considering that the top two richest Malaysian happens to be a Chinese followed by an Indian whom you considered a minority. Just because your own kind rip you off, please do not blame the government whom majority happens to be Malays.It seems to me that you are nothing but an ungrateful ingrates.
In your own words I would say "Please don’t fabricate and misled the readers in this forum about your version of meritocracy in Singapore", for you know not what you are talking about and it all tantamount to hearsay.
Your logic is so illogical it just amaze me that you have the temerity to comment on the "thebigdiapper". You are such a liar that it makes me wonder whether you are from "Hindraf."
Just because the natives especially the Malays are accommodating people, please do not take them for a fool and if you think I know not what I'm talking about, I advise you to check the status of your fellow immigrants in Asean countries and the condition imposed on them as a non natives and tell me your rights are better off there. Of course with the exception of Singapore whom the immigrants were the majority and double standards are being practice.
SIN's childish laws and high handedness......
http://singaporerebel.blogspot.com/2009/06/police-investigates-filmmaker-over.html
Dear Tun,
With your permission
By aniesaAuthor Profile Page on June 22, 2009 3:07 AM
Comment:
From the following comment by a fellow Mat, I do hope you and others both Malays and non Malay Singaporean will get a clearer picture of what we the Singaporean Mats think of LKY's Singapore meritocracy.
It is nice to hear your comment and it is indeed gratifying that you identify yourself as a Javanese and not a Malay. You have actually played into the hands of a policy that see Malays as a "political" construct, defined by nation states that only existed in this part of the world in the 18th century. You have actually accepted the idea of "us and them". To the non Malays, unfortunately, you are still considered as "us".
Yes, perhaps Malays may not be "up there" as you brutally put because they "just don't have it". But it seems strange that after nearly 50 years of self government in Singapore, one of the world's most competitive economies, no Malays have yet taken important portfolios in government, (Minister of Finance, Minister of Trade and Industry, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Defence). It seems even strange that after almost 40 years (in the 1990s), there was the "first" Malay pilot in the Air Force. It seems strange that despite almost 50 years, there has not been a top general who is a Malay. It seems strange that top officers in the Police force do not see large Malay presence, despite the force being a natural place of gravitation for Malays. Malays tend to huddle in the civil service as teachers, policemen/women, firefighters and civil defence officers, yet top officers seldom see Malays in proportional numbers. In the private sector, Malays tend to occupy the lower ranks(desptach riders, clerks ) and the successful ones are those who join top multinationals, not homegrown banks or companies.
I hate to share my personal account to anyone but your letter warrants a rebuttal as personally being a Singaporean Malay (Singapore first then Malay) working in a domain where non-Malays dominated I was given silly remarks like "Are you are Malay, you certainly don't think like one"..."he does not come across as a Mat, does not think like one"...."for a Malay you are very intelligent, are you a Malay (a taxi driver!!!!)".
I could adopt the position like "no I'm not quite a Malay" or " I am Javanese" to give the other party instant gratification. But I stood my ground.
I am a Malay, successful and currently studying in one of the world's top three universities.But I am a Malay, a "Mat" and deeply proud of it.
Racism exists. They differ only in degrees. In Malaysia, the affirmative action makes it known to the rest of the world that racism exists.
Malaysia acknowledge it and make no bones in telling the world that there are problems, and they are learning to fix it and in a manner that suits them best, albeit it in the most painful way
But affirmative action is by no means static. Trace its development and you know it has changed, in tandem with Bumiputera's capacity building capabilities. But it is not perfect.
In Singapore, racism exists. It is unseen, in pockets, in people's mind and manifested through actions and words. It is not institutionalised. There is no policy pronouncements. It is not blurted through the media; not being manipulated by opportunists. It is selective and highly subtle. Flip through local advertisements in Singapore's papers and you get the impression that Singapore is a one race nation. See the TV serial Phua Chu Kang, and you see Afdlin Shauki and Suhaimi playing the lesser role of a technician or simply a "Mat". Look at TV commercials and form your own conclusions. Racism is there.
This not a hate letter. It is just about seeking to see things in a better perspective given human imperfections. We are all not perfect.
You may be successful in your own right and rightful claim that it has nothing to do with you being a Malay ("Javanese anyway" ) but there are others, loads of others who are working, studying and trying so hard to prove themselves in the system. For them, to be good among equals is not enough. You have to be better.
Discrimination will continue to exist at the individual level or at societal level, but let us not bring issues of eugenics (my genes is better than yours) as a death sentence.
When one talks about race and racism there needs to be emphathy, not hate. We should all try to change our views on others based on trust and embarking on that leap of faith in embracing others. Perhaps, you should too.
Tun:
Spend the remainder of your years in solitude and peace. You have screwed Malaysians for close to 20 plus years, and yet you are still trying to whip up anti-Singapore sentiment. The little red dot has done nothing to you, except maybe to demonstrate to the whole world what Malaysia under your rule could have become with full meritocracy and transparency. So Singapore stands as a testament to your mis-rule and for that you wish to punish the island state ?
Allah keeps you alive not to cast stones at others that have very little connection with your own country.
Working in Singapore,
the facts produced by Singapore on the water negotiations are not new. In fact, the Singapore government has published a booklet just to highlight these facts and misrepresentations across the causeway!
However, our dear friend - and to a large extent his supporters - convenient choose to highlight only the 3sens per 1,000 gallons price. Such disingenious behaviour makes those involved, as what another writer above succiently puts it, looks like morons to the international community.
Dr M seems to think that he is writing only to a particular crowd (i believe to be Malaysian malays), and it seems like quite a few actually buys his arguements - lock stock and barrel- without even doing some simple research on the subject. For one to be credible, I would humbly suggest to those involved to critically think through the issues involved, and not be carried away by the jokes as to how many grains of nasi lemak you can buy with 3 sens. Issues include:
- Respect of the written agreement
- Debating based on facts
- credibility
Personally I find it amusing that a simple comment from LKY as to regard a certain geographical region as Singapore's hinterland could be so conveniently reference to Singapore seeing itself as the new Middle Kingdom. Any individual, company, society, or country in their planning for future, will no doubt plan with itself being the center! How else would you plan for the future of your business, for example? It takes a twisted mind, and clever use of words, to arrive at such a conclusion. And from that, Dr M seems to conclude that LKY sees himself as the little emperor..
Dr M may be the king of malaysian politics judging from his various successes. But that counts for nothing much to the minds of many outside malaysia if he does not debate in a manner that is consistent with what one may associate as intelligent and credible.
weesg
The Straits Times published a related letter 'Mahathir on Water Talks'. Link: http://www.straitstimes.com/ST%2BForum/Story/STIStory_392286.html
Quote: "Singapore pays 3 sen for the raw water only because Singapore bears the full cost of treating the water, as well as building, operating and maintaining the pumps and pipelines.
By selling treated water to Malaysia at 50 sen while the real cost of treating the water was RM2.40 per 1,000 gallons, Singapore was in fact absorbing RM1.90 per 1,000 gallons in cost.
Moreover, while Johor is legally entitled to buy 17 million gallons a day (mgd) of treated water from Singapore daily, it has chosen to buy 37 mgd. Why should Johor do so if there is 'profiteering'?"
Can anyone comment on this? What are your views please? Thanks.
The Little Middle Kingdom???
1. Since its birth, Singapore had really truly flourished under LKY.
2. Thus LKY is the master architect of Singapore.
3. Like a good company, it grew and attracted many good workers with good salaries being paid out.
4. But then again, like a company, its success depends a lot on the skills of the Management.
5. Singapore does not have many good leaders, which is why LKY is reluctant to let go. His family member had to be recruited as PM as a front for him to continue being in control.
6. Thus Singapore is really LKY Incorporated. Wonder why some people find that so easy to swallow when they fire shells and bullets at young Malaysians who follow their father's footsteps in politics at a time when the fathers have already left the big scene? Oh yes... in Singapore it is called meritocracy...!!! but in Malaysia it is racist UMNO...!! Even DAP and PKR can have the same meritocracy stories but not UMNO...noo........ never UMNO!!! Right not Karpal? Gobind? Kit Siang? Guan Eng? Anwar? Izzah?
7. I bet my bottom dollar, when LKY is gone, Singapore will start begging from the US and Israel for favours. And then, we will see the real colours of Uniquely Singapore....
And they will have even more good news about them being printed in the world-wide-Jewish-controlled media even though their actual economic stories may differ..
8. Just wait and see everyone. It will take true visions to see the true colours of Singapore then.
Take care good Malaysians, Salam Tun and all. VIVA MALAYSIA!!!
sikenit
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
To all Chedet blog visitors, please read JJJ's response on "equality" being practised singapore Govt. against minority Malays in that country. Hidup JJJ!!!
Someone like JJJ would have alot more grievances they would like to show off, and the scenario goes like telling the world "we are so sad because have been compaining for 50 years like a sitting duck and made no progress at all, and we are glad to repeat the cycle for another 50 years because we are so poor in the mean time".
Hi thebigdiapper,
Hey if you call me narrow-minded, I bet if our argument present to any foreigner, you think who will be labeled as narrow-minded, very likely is you.
I am a Malaysian and talking all this not because I stand aside of Singapore, after all, their prosperous doesn’t increase my well-being. I am writing this forum because the minority non-malays are simply rip-off by our government.
Please don’t fabricate and misled the readers in this forum about the meritocracy in Singapore. It is good that you go work in Singapore and see it for yourself. Cheating to cover the fact doesn’t help, which is up till today, you all still require spoon feeding from the government. Can you list down a point of Singapore government policy that practice racial discrimination in this forum without BS?
If you are smart, regardless of your color skin, you are put into position to lead. This is what happening in Singapore, which is why you can see so many professional foreigners working there. So don’t BS here, this is not Utusan Malaysia for you to spread all the fake stories to incite racial hatred.
When you accused Singapore is a leech? How is it a leech can develop so well? I don’t know about the water thingy in Singapore, but all I know our country man does not negotiate skillfully when come to water arrangement with them… so who are you going to blame?
tuffy
Dear Tun,
Malaysia and Singapore are neighbour, we should not critize each other. when we show respect to others, they will show respect to us too. We gain nothing by critizing Mr LKY, but we gain respect and friendship by showing good hospitality and forgiveness.
SALAM AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
By HBTAuthor Profile Page on June 23, 2009 8:23 AM
...People first Performance now (may some bloggers help me with this slogan in our national language (BM), perhaps blogger abg samuraimelayu, owlz or kamal ahmad may assist me in making sure I will learn this slogan in BM).
ADIK KU 'HBT',
ALLOW US TO QUOTE THE PM IN BM ' RAKYAT DIDAHULUKAN, PRESTASI DI UTAMAKAN'. THAT'S HIS SLOGAN TO HIS CABINET
PERHAPS, AMONGST US THE RAKYAT WE SHOULD REFRESH THAT LOVING FEELINGS OF 'KASIH SAYANG' IN OUR HEARTS AND TOGETHER WORK TOWARD MAKING AYAHANDA RAKYAT'S VISION 2020... A DREAM COMES TRUE TO UNITE THE RAKYAT UNDER ONE DEVELOPED AND HARMONIOUS MALAYSIA.
ALLOW US TO SCRIBBLE OUR SLOGAN FOR 'SYOK SENDIRI' ONLY.
'PANCARKAN SAYANG, RASAKAN NADI( POTRAY LOVE, FEEL THE IMPULSE)
BERSATU KITA TEGUH, BERPECAH KITA ROBOH.(UNITED WE CHERISH, BREAK WE PERISH)'
WAWASAN 2020 BUKAN TITIK PENYUDAH BAGI GENERASI MENDATANG IA BERMULA
ALFAITHAH, AMIN.
ps. Samuraimelayu will never stop reminding ourselves that vision 2020 is not for us but for our generations (anak cucu) to come.
Hi Ir Syahizan,
When you pulled out the entire historical story about colonial western power strip-off the Malays right, I wonder where the historical record you read from? Oversea migrants came to this country to find a living by working hard, thus this bring development to the whole south east Asia region. Do you think life is easy back on those days for everyone where only western folk is ripping off resources on not only South East Asia but whole world as well? Now you mentioned that British is giving favoritism to oversea migrant about job and educational opportunity... and the Malays were left out...hmm what kind of rubbish is that? At that time, what kind of education opportunity does the westerner give to the local regardless of Indian Chinese or Malay (except you are some powerful royal family or well connect business man) all they care is make use of everyone sweat to work hard and bring back the local resources and mineral to fuel the home country industrial revolution, and every one is destitute. It is true that the British divided the human resource to each different field (i.e. Malay in kampung, Chinese in trading, Indian in plantation). But this does not means that the Chinese was given a golden gift, we were put into the trading field is because we are inherently good in this area, so obviously if you are the boss you want to best allocate your resource to maximize the profit. We are in trading does not mean our ancestor will giving money or gold by the British, our ancestor has to work hard to make a living, and like your ancestor, we all being ripped-off. Now when you said we were given jobs and educational opportunity, that is utterly rubbish. and please do everyone a favor, when you want to put a story in this Tun's forum, try to justify what you said and not simply create a fabricated story out of hatred and emotional feeling. You are indeed not very clever.
Next, you mentioned Singapore is small and easy to managed, and that western colonial has provided proper infrastructure to Singapore. Well, it can be true or not true that the geographical location of Singapore make it a strategically advantageous to Singapore for trading. But on deeper thought, this kind of location advantageous is definitely out of date after twentieth century or after WW2 where human brain becomes the ultimate factor to thrive; do you think Singapore can survive till today if they make use of ONLY location to gain business advantageous?? And you said the small size of the country (not more than the size of Klang valley) is easy to manage. Man, you are incredibly stupid to make excuses for yourself to cover your people weakness. Singapore was being forced to kick out from Malaysia, do you think they want to gain independence of this small island? I think Tun is either very sad or laughing of your statement. Hey otak kosang, do you think any of our Malaysian leaders or Johor government is able to transform this tiny island to a country like today should Singapore still remain under Malaysia?? Speak from your heart instead of emotion!
Further you said Singapore align itself with Israel?? It is true that Singapore use the idea of national services from Israel where everyone has to service the military but talking about align with Isreal. Aiyo my God, I don't know how to put a word to describe your katak dalam tempurong mindset, it is either you are trying to fabricate the story in this forum to incite hatred on your Muslim folk (whom majority are like you) against other non-Malay people, or you are dumbest people I ever come across.
For your information, my client in Singapore is Malay, and I have worked with a couple of them and many of them are hardworking and capable. It is so much different, and I did asked them before if the Singaporean Government mistreat them, and I was told “no”, everyone is treat equally, and in fact, the government does give preferential to them when come to some social benefit such as of university application. How is it that they being wipe out in Singapore, when the real life picture in Singapore I encountered with is a Singaporean Malay that I deal with on our daily business handling reveal to me on the fact? I think our government should put you in ISA before this country heading toward racial tension again by people like you inciting all the hatred. However, I do agree that Singapore is not a total democracy country as there is no opposition party over there. But on second thought, the opposition party there has no chance of winning because their existing government is doing such a good job to the country development, so do you think opposition party has chance to win?
I tell you what is really happening in this country is a real and a total discrimination incurs in this country, and FYI, Dr. Mahathir acknowledged the discrimination in this country. The government in this country has systematically implements policies to try to restrict the growth of non-Malay minority, especially the Chinese from education, to business. You are probably being misled since young by either your family upbringing or mostly likely brain washed by Utusan Malaysia. Did you know where is the government’s money coming from to help you Malay to grow in business and education, it is from our monthly tax we contribute to the government, it is from the non-malays owned business corporate, and not to forget all the compulsory bumi equity that has to be given out when a company go public, and others. This is why you have organization like PNB that have tons of money to help the Malays on business setup (example all the entrepreneur scheme thingy), and to help people like you to go to oversea study loh even though the result is utterly poor...Further, you have the discriminatory policy on housing discount, this will help you or your parent able to afford a housing which indirectly increase your disposal income loh. Therefore, non-Malay has to work hard from our ass so that the government can have the money to nurture you lah, we not only work hard to help you, but we also fight for the fame for this country for example, all the years we won so many badminton tournament, and we have people like Jimmy chew to put a Malaysia name out there in the world, and so much so much story. Yet, we have some moron in this country advocate the government to throw us into ISA, and call us pengdatap. Now, Ir Syahizan, can you tell me who is being ungrateful? The sad thing about this country is there are too many Malay has thinking like you, and Ibrahim Ali, that make the racial harmony impossible. It is really a laughing joke if any foreigners know our country policy.
Tun Mahathir, I hope you stop publishing any of racially-ingredient stories in this forum, as you know most of our Malay brother is not capable of discerning right and wrong, merely based on emotion. If you are sincere about the development of this country, try to promote racial harmony in this forum before some moron like this guy turn out to be another Ibrahim Ali.
Selamat pagi Ayanahada Tun,
BN and PR rejected unity government now. I sincerely hope that they understand why Malaysia Boleh needs to be re-branded to 1Malaysia, and the slogan Cemerlang, Gemilang and Terbilang needs to be changed to People first Performance now (may some bloggers help me with this slogan in our national language (BM), perhaps blogger abg samuraimelayu, owlz or kamal ahmad may assist me in making sure I will learn this slogan in BM).
If brains without heart can solve our multi-racial national issues, we will not be landed in BN's lost in PRU 12. Money and power are not everything in the world. If our multi-racial society could be united, Malaysia will not be having so many opposition parties then. Tun Dr M is not a dictator, and he believes brain and heart is the best solution in dealing with our multi-racial conflicts and he is still working hard to make sure these conflicts are solved, if possible, if not minimize, without harming our unity due to power and monetary rewards. We have been raised and taught in the school on our RUKUN NEGARA. Are we the “Kat On Koon Foh” citizen by “jai learning (memorize only without understanding and its application) by saying” Maka kami, rakyat Malaysia, berikrar akan menumpukan seluruh tenaga dan usaha kami……. “ only, are we?????
The muslims believe that “Allah” is the Maha Kuasa, I am sure the chinese understand the ideology of "Yin and Yan" (Yin means heart-refer to female) and "Yan" (means brain-refer to male), Indian beliefs, I do not understand, and Christians believe that the God is The Almighty. Because of multi-racial, we have “Kepercayaan Kepada Tuhan” so that each and one of us respect and tolerate each others’ religion.
Communists do not allow chinese to pray for their ancestors in the public and in home due to Communist Ideology (Ideology is rigid, human beings are flexible and have intelligence). Now, the Beijing Communist Party understand the religion and ideology conflicts, they allow chinese to decide whether they want this prayers or not. The Chinese government too needs to adapt and learn from the Japanese's technologies (and Japanese is good and we cannot deny it), thus, these 2 governments have learned their history and favour not to confront directly and rigidly the misfortune due to wars so that they will not cause panic in the upper, middle and lower level of their society because it will harm their and the world economy. Most importantly, they know that they are 2 different countries, you protect your country and I protect my country, and if possible no DIRTY JOBS (Bad Corruptions) or Wars!!!
Yesterday, DS Najib said, “MM, Mr Lee Kuan Yew has made a few comments but I think overall he wants to see Malaysia succeed. He wants to see a stabilized Malaysia. I think that is the most important thing.” How he does it... is the style of the man. I think we have to recognize that everybody is different,” said Najib.
Well, DS Najib, what about our Tun Dr M, why you did not mention him. And Don’t forget, he fought for Malaysia unity as Anak Malaysia for 60 years now, and never forget, he has chosen not to stay in Putrajaya, why? Tun Dr M has sent a strong message to UMNO that the country and the rakyat are your main tasks if you are the PM, you did not learn from Pak Lah’s mistake ke? You said “risik-risik “(spy-spy), like a marriage, with the PAS, then you have sent a strong message that you are “a play boy”. Also, why 3rd bridge needs to be built in the eastern Singapore? Are you trying to cover up the top guns of UMNO mistakes in implementing Johor Iskandar Project? Are you assimilating (copying, not plagiary-ing) the double standard of USA without understanding our Rukun Negara due to brain with no heart? If you approved Petronas chairman to be replaced by your own people (not according to “tradisi“), then CIMB group having you as their eldest brother will do then? The rakyat will say "lalang" jugak DS Najib. You think you are Phua Chu Kang whom can simply say "don't play play"?
Rakyat and investors are bijak, when I said “Takkan lah nasi lemak biasa kita hanya jual RM1.20 debunks sahaja, I want to send a clear message use the water deal to negotiate with Singapore so that we will benefit both country. When Tun Dr M said, what malays will works as in the Johor Iskandar Project if Singapore is the main shareholders? You want our Menteri2 (Malays) work as the Pengurus Besar Pasaran in McDonald or Carrefour, or Republic Banana Fashion Boutiques?
Tun Dr M has his style and DS Najib must learn from him that is stay FOCUS no matter what happens. If you think that your moderate and young chap style can accept Mr Lee KY's style, go ahead and I can assure you that UMNO will end with Najib.
Why Mr Lee Kuan Yew came to Malaysia, not his son? He came because this financial crisis is badly hurting the Singaporeans. Why Tun Dr M said we should not entertain Mr Lee Kuan Yew, Malaysia economy is hurt badly. Yes, we may have differences with Singapore, but Malaysia is lead by Rukun Negara, and Singapore is lead by the Family man, Mr Lee Kuan Yew, faham ke DS Najib and your cabinets?????
Good day Ayahanda Tun.
Salam Tun...
Saya setuju dengan JB....
Attitude must be right. Skills is a must but not of the utmost importance. Resources? You need it....People? Raw material? Etc..Etc..
But...ATTITUDE....ATTITUDE....ATTITUDE.....wrong attitude would render the abundance resources meaningless. That is what happening for the last 30 to 40 years.
It is not about the leadership but the general mass of malay's attitude.
Tok sah pening....attitude melayu tak kan berubah.
Dear Dr Mahathir,
Good Evening.
Have A Pure & Good Heart.
Be Fair & Wise to everyone, whether he or she is a Singaporean or a Malaysian.
God loves everyone, whether you are Malay, Chinese, Indian, or whatever the color of our human skin.
Do not divide your own citizens, whether they are Bumiputra or non-bumi.Treat them equally and fairly.
Admit and Correct your mistake and repent. Forgive your sinners and your sins will be forgiven.
Harbour No Evil thoughts against anyone, and you will live happily.
Live & Let's Live, for we are here to enjoy as much as we can today and tomorrow may never comes.
May God bless you.
Rico
Ex- British subject, Ex-Malaysian
2009 June 22nd.
Well said AbdulRahman... I agreed on ur points...
First of all, u have to ask our past Malay leaders. Why tat time, they allow Singapore to go out from Malaysia? And when it goes out, why they dont send the non-malays to Singapore and remained all Malays in Malaysia? Then all this ruckus/complain wont happen here perhaps not happening in this blog too...
The fact is Singapore is very much more developed compare to Malaysia. What's d problem we gip them sand? Scared they will claimed our Malaysia land or scared Singapore will conquer Malaysia?? If they really are(they still got sand from elsewhr to ext their land), what Malaysia going to do with Singapore(they have US backing)?? Tun, are you going to shoot them?? And we become another Pyongyang??
Let them come nearer and stick to us just like Thailand lah, so we dont need to crack our head to solve the crooked brigde issues... sighzzz
Hi Ir Syahizan,
By the way, if you really want all the Chinese out of this country, in that case, that will means there is no NEP policy to help you already oh? That means no special protection privilege for you on bumi entrepreneurship program, no housing discount program, no special loan or no scholarship schema giving to you, no compulsory share equity giving to you, and others. Is this what you really want to forsake. Furthermore, you and your majority narrow-minded malay will not have chance to criticize or to “tai-chi” your personal ethnic social problem (such as ripping of your tanah melayu resource, mat rempit, etc) to the Chinese. Is this what you willing to give up?
On second thought, you should give us some credit on the country development, you see if our ancestor is not here at the first place, I am sure you won’t get all those kind of special protection that will send you to study and make your disposal income go up right?
Think twice before you write in this forum.
Tuffy
Reply to Liew(20th Jun , 10.24am)
Just a word of caution!
Checked your facts before U agreed with another person.
Be rational regarding your words of deadly damaging to trust & honour.
- U're very naive & to put it simple- 'Stupid'
- When a contract is signed, no withdraweral unless both parties agree.
Regards,
eric
What can we expect from a senile "apek" with his tiny dotty kingdom.If I were to be the PM of Malaysia I would just ignore him with his "kiasu" attitude.We just ignore everything attached with Singapore its people, its economy,its government system and everything Singapor.We just see whether they could survive by themselves.Cut the water pipeline, bomb the causeway and 2nd Link,stop KTM from proceeding beyond JB ,may b built a wall along Johore Water front,After all Singapore is a soverign country ,let them lives by themselves so that people from both side will not be making comparison between each other and transfer the "Sing" communicable diseases to our beloved Malaysia.You can go to hell " LKY"apek.
Hi JB_FROM
I agree with you on politician diverting attention, and beside that they really got nothing better to do other than bringing up racial or nep issue, you do know politicians need to make some awkward bold speeches once in a while to gain attention don't you hahaha, now who cares about nep or racial right, as long as I could work and learn, I'm gonna pwnz everyone in Malaysia(In the sense of knowledge).
Salam Buat Yg. Bhg. Tun,
1. This episode of LKY visit to Malaysia has indirectly brought up very subtle across-the-boarder patriotism to some Malaysians. To them it has been a great honour for them to have an audience with this little emperor, from the expression of their face posted in the front page of news paper pictured with him, and up to the extend of how fortunate they were even when the chances were in the toilet (as reported by one local news paper).
2. My international passport expired about a month ago, thus I was unable to join a friend for a trip abroad. When he found out about that, he said "Don't you know that INTERNATIONAL PASSPORT" is very important just in case anything happen to this country". I gave him a blank look before saying "What do you mean by if anything happen to this country?". To that he replied,"In case of riot or chaos or anything and it has happened in Indonesia during the 1997-1198 crisis you know". My replied was "But we are not in Indonesia". Further he said "OK, what about war or something like that?". "Well I think the passport would be useless to me during that time, as I would be dead in no time". Said I. "Why said he?". "WELL I WOULD NOT FLEED THIS COUNTRY EVEN IF IT MEANS I HAVE TO SACRIFICE MYSELF IN HER HONOUR". I quickly changed the topic before it became explosive and we ended up trading on a very dangerous issue.
3. Malaysian Malays for a longtime have been taught to block the issue about race to the extend that any mention about it even about the right of Bumiputera will invite public uproar such as the case of one UMNO leader in Penang not long ago. But issue like LKY, Chin Peng and not to forget NAMEWEE (a student who degraded the NEGARAKU in the global platform: Let it be known here that he should not be forgiven at all cost) are being praised and protected like nobody business by some Malaysians. In case of NAMAWEE I remember certain politicians even went to the extend of trying to get him a laywer to assist him to fight the case.
Think about it?
Kind regards
Salam Tun and all,
1. Meritocracy in Singapore???
2. LKY a great leader???
3. His SON as the PM, LKY as the MM, you call that MERITOCRACY???
4. OMG!!!! IT is called NEPOTISME OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!!!!
5. Obviously Singapore supporters choose to think Differently than the whole world...
(sighhh......) What to say??? Orang BODOH memang tak boleh di ajar...
Salam all... take care good Malaysians...
sikenit
Only Tun can say certain things. His comments about LKY is not inappropriate. Having said that we must learn from the successful ones be it LKY or any others. Spore is a leader in many fields- Biotech computer parts microtek and even defence armaments etc. Even India wants to buy howitzers from Spore. They have made it. Under Tun we too tried. Proton, Hicom, composite materials aeroplanes etc. Unfortunately we did not become leaders. Infact we became laggards. You know why? We started seeing every venture from the racial point. Appointments were made if they were connected or well liked by certain individuals. We obtained experts from the middle east, rejects from third world countries (those who could not make it to the west) etc who professed a certain faith. 40 years from now we would probably be arguing over the importance of English or even Arabic etc. I remember many years ago Tun was asked about the exodus of medical doctors- Tun replied that for every doctor leaving Malaysia for the west ten or fifteen are waiting to come in. The quality which came in was mediocre. University stds have dropped. Any way we will survive. In fact we can afford all these errors in judgment becos we are blessed with natural resources - oil, gas, timber etc AND a very resourceful group of Chinese entrepreneurs.
Hi Sir,
Allow me to have a quick comment on Hisham76:
You seem very bitter about racial prejudice of MALAYS in SIngapore. I have never denied in my previous comment about such social injustices as seen by you, however, being raised in a family like mine, it encompasses me to look beyond the colour of our skin and our origin. If my postings offended you, its my oversight as I never meant to demarginalise the Malays in Singapore.
Obviously my ambition is not to be in the Cabinet of Minister in Singapore, no matter how capable I might be because I would not want to be in charge of sewage water in any of the Ministry Of Environment department, or be associated with a political group that has lost its relevance to me in terms of political freedom needs.
I just feel concerned that the evolution of Malay race in demanding equal rights in their society has always been about why WE are excluded from this and that and how come the rest can have this and we cannot, etc. A smart person like yourself should not be hollering abt such issues as it was exactly why I wrote this originally as I thought someone in this blog has the same disease.
Salam Tun
Having read your article and the abundant feedback from your readers, it seems to me that many of the readers unwittingly reveal, through their comments, a form of inferiority in Malaysians. Our leadership during the many years when you were at the helm revealed a kind of unhealthy contempt for our little adek down south.
May I start by saying that there were a number of key reasons why adek was compelled to leave the Federation. But the paramount reason as far as LKY was concerned was that the policy of the KL government was to promote a Malay Malaysia and not a Malaysia for all Malaysians, regardless of race or religion.
I believe that many things LKY said were very demeaning in the way they had been expressed but the truth seemed to permeate everything he said about Malaysia. So, no doubt, to some extent, we are all humiliated. But to allow ourselves to depart from the truth and feel content simply by dismissing LKY as a little emperor or some despot does not move forward the Malaysian cause.
During your rule, Malaysia had made much progress, but if only you were not too involved in the politics of politics, I sincerely believe that our country could be in an even better state, today. Yes, Malays are better off than the other races today. But at what expense? These days Malays have a contempt towards the Chinese and the Indians. Like it or not, Malays may be the indigenous people but the Chinese and the Indians have been around for a very long time now. We cannot make them go away, so they are part of our society and culture. Your policies have not made the races united.
In the US, all the people there, whether Latino, Caucasian or Blacks consider themselves American and they stand proud, everyone of them, even if America is their country of adoption. So how are we uniting our people? Is this even a priority? Look at adek, he is ever doing his best to unite his family of different races. All this talk about the Malays in Singapore being a minority and oppressed is just sheer propaganda by you, Tun. It really doesn't help us.
If what you say is true about the marginalisation or oppression of Malays in Singapore, why aren't they flocking over to our side in droves and signing up for permanent residence or citizenship?
Anyway, this issue of water being sold to Singapore at 3 sen per 1000 gallons being often harped at by you to say that Malaysia has been short changed does not appear to be the complete story.
I read in the Singapore Straits Times on 19 June 2009, which was very enlightening, that Johor actually buys back the water at 50 sen per 1000 gallons when Singapore spends RM 2.40 per 1000 gallons to treat the water. Adek has to absorb RM 1.90 of the cost. The other point made in the paper was that Johor is legally entitled to purchase back 17 million gallons a day from adek but actually buys 37 million gallons a day from adek. This must be one of the reasons why his Excellency, the Sultan of Johor is on good terms with LKY and the leaders of Singapore. So does not Malaysia benefit from the water deal? Even more than adek benefits?
Such inaccurate propagandistic expressions by you, Tun, makes us look like morons in the world and blinds our countrymen to the truth when the truth can make our two countries great together as a team.
When I say that your Bahasa policy has made us such wretched writers of the English language as can be seen on your blog, it will upset a lot of your readers who have given their comments. If they feel anger, it is again because of the inferiority and denial which you have unfortunately engendered in us.
Nonetheless, without you, Malaysia would not have progressed economically as it has. So I say to Tun, please do not be upset by my comments. I do wish you good health and thank you for the many positive things you have done for the country.
Regards
Objective
Dear Tun, salam sejahtera harap sihat gembira. Kiriman sudah sunting dan sita untuk lalu sekatan. Kiriman membalas komen oleh pengunjung bukan mencetus isu...
................THANKS BUT NO THANKS
It is telling this comment by one alleged S'porean Malay ('Zac' on June 15, 2009 3:53 PM ). He says thank you for the empathy and support (and hopes you continue to support) but he does not wish to come back to his saudara 'Tuan Melayu' here (he gave amusing reason).
He is foresaking institutional supremacy, might of majority and ownership of Malay land!!! Speaks volumes of S'pores management of minority, however you ridicule it. He prefers to slug it out with 5mil Chinese than slumber in the comfort of privileges??
You figure out why the so called 'pathetically treated' Malay refuse the goldmine. Hopefully we can create the same sentiment among the minority here. But some people will blame the minority attitude here, not their own!
................ITS HISTORY
Singapore is an independent nation and a fact of history. No amount of nostalgia or history reading will change that history. Will S'pore bashing change history?? Makes you feel good?
When carrying out S'pore bashing (racially slanted ones) remember how you reacted to so called Malay bashing by small group of bloggers. You smear the whole race, threaten them with ISA, banishment, citizenship etc. You call them fear mongering names.
Compare the history of your response with S'pore's expected response. Better to work towards being friendly neighbours (however difficult) than digging up history and open old wounds (like Chin Peng) The threats and racism in this blog is a big obstacle.
Cermin cemin diri. Tun says we all need mirrors to check ourselves. Only problem when some people use one way mirrors!
Good morning Tun and friends,
We are 11 years away from Wawasan 2020. By 2020 we are supposed to transform from the 3rd world to the FIRST WORLD, on par with Singapore.
Let's assume Singapore will have ZERO GDP growth for the next 11 years. Our current per capita income is USD 8,500 and Singapore is USD 39,000. In order to achieve WAWASAN 2020, all Malaysia have to make sure that their salary with increase by 350% by 2020. It means if you make RM 3000 a month now, you must make RM 13.500 by 2020. If you make RM 10,000 now, you must make RM 45,000 by 2020.
Honestly, I am not too optimistic. I myself definitely cannot contribute to the figure. What about ALL other Malaysians?
We really must figure out some constructive and aggresive ways to achieve our vision.
To JJJ,
My friend is not a soon to be extinct species because as I understand he has got 2 sons aged 3 and 7. I hope the discussion is not personal but based on facts and figures.
Engineers must own a car ? Go to Hong Kong and you will notice tons of multi millionaires over there go to work by BUS. Why ? Because it's efficient ! Buddy I am not kidding la!
Regards.
ok fair enough if your friend spends S$200 per month on public transport there.
But only go to work and school to and fro and go to town once a week,perhaps?Cos my relatives and friends there need to spend at least S$500 per month to fully accomodate their transportation needs.
You see some of my relatives cannot afford to buy a car and the best they can hope for is a scooter.
Anyway,your friend must be an eco-warrior type or a soon to be extinct species.An engineer with no car?We're talking about the land of the 'kiasus'here and one upsmanship is the name of the game.
Dear Tun, salam mesra harap sihat sejahtera. Minta izin memberi pandangan pada komen yg di lepaskan di sini. Harap ruang diberi juga untuk membalas seperti pada mengungkit....
.................MENGULAS KOMEN
>> Grudging compromise and ungrateful morons
I agree with his statement Malays are compromising people. I strongly disagree the writer is in that group! He is the black sheep in the family. He doesn't represent the compromising Malays, but writes on their behalf. Just state what you are, the mengamuk type that is plenty in this blog.
When talking inside a tempurung don't shout, you will get back a lot of noise which is your own sound! But the frog will be proud of this loud noise and think he is mighty. It is people who talk like this that cause BN to lose all the by-elections so far in Malay majority areas.
Understand the meaning of compromise and condition. Compromise, once you accept you don't hold that against the other party as a blood debt. Condition means you are entitled to a claim. Which is which?
Also there cannot be a grudging compromise if given under free will (Merdeka) not under duress. Grudging is the type that needs to constantly remind the other of his compromise. You forget that compromise means two parties have to sacrifice! What about the sacrifice of the other party?
>> Greedy and selfish
State your case not spew hatred. Be fair and specific (when talking race). What is the 'greedy and selfish' demand of the 'ungrateful morons'.
If it is about having non Malay leaders, this is a democratic country with leaders elected through elections. The leaders are elected by the will of the people, unless you disagree with this method.
What is there to 'fight back?' Who is using violent, illegal ways against you that you need to fight? Unless you are against the rakyat who uses the political (elections) and constitutional (freedom of expression) process. You are entitled to the same process, but maybe you read somewhere threats and violence is your constitutional right?
PS: This is directed at the particular commenter, not the Malays. I dont favor racial slugging.
LKY's brand of communism has faired well for s'pore and it may be arrogance or confidence that allows s'pore politicians to preach good goverance to the world; but Malaysia has not been able to show it's own competitive (and competent) edge when dealing with issues relating to politics, governance and the economy.
With regards to negotiating, all Malaysian politicians should be barred from this because they are too stupid and naive to deal with the smart and shrude s'poreans. KL's skills need to be sharpened up if they want a fair win-win future for it's people.
Najib does not seem to have the will nor the grit to deal with LKY or his son, so Malaysia: be careful otherwise you will be burnt again and again and again!
Dear JB_FROM
I agree with you.We're supposed to do much much better than S'pore,we have the land, man power ( population ), RESOURCES.... etc.
But we also have the most destructive element in our country - Corruption!
Everytime this issue comes up, we have idiots who post things like "why don't you migrate ?" or "Why don't you go to Singapore?" or "Go tell LKY lah !". Why should we ? We pay taxes here. We have investments here. What's wrong with wanting a better life for ourselves, for our future generations ? What's wrong with wanting a more secure environment for our investments, be in property or shares ?
We have someone like Syed Azman who commutes to work in his helicopter. We have more owners of private jets than Singapore has. We have Malays who own banks in Africa and elsewhere. We have Malays who own resorts around the world. The problem is that the distribution has not just been even under Mahathir - it was so lopsided that it is criminal.
And because some of you work for government, and make a few thousand ringgit a month, you are happy with the looting that goes on under UMNO ? Happy with the corruption of the judiciary and of the PDRM ? What's the matter with you people ?
Godfather
JJJ is typical of the mindset of the blind leading the blind.
LKY took a piece of rock with nothing and made it into a AAA rated country. Mahathir took a country with vast natural resources and turned it into a basket case.
You don't want to use per capita income as a yardstick ? How about crime rate ? How about foreign reserves ? How about the number of those living below the poverty line ?
You can continue to live under the tempurung. Just don't tell us, the smarter ones, that we should do the same.
Godfather
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salam Tun,
This is also my answer to sgstudent,
Are you a History student?Does May 13 mean anything to you?You say you believe in equal right.Are you so sure that Malays have equal rights and opportunities there?
Oh free primary education?
NOW CAN YOU TELL ME IF TUDUNG ISSUE IN SCHOOLS,AZAN IN MOSQUES,LIMITING THE NUMBER OF INTAKE TO RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS (the list is almost endless)IN LINE WITH THEIR CONSTITUTION?
"I also have a question for you.In the fifties and sixties right up to the seventies after Singapore pulled out from Malaysia,which city was the most modern and most well developed?
Through which city did most of our exports (including natural resources) go through to be exported?"
Points for sgstudent to ponder,
'All these measures undertaken ensure that the Malays in Singapore, no matter how dissatisfied, can never gather enough electoral support to push for their agenda. This is the classic 'divide and conquer' strategy. With such a strategy, Malay interests would now be primarily articulated and represented within parameters determined by the PAP government and its Malay MPs (pp. 72-76). It also ensures that the government can afford to continue its minimalist approach to the Malay community without suffering any electoral backlash.'
"The Malay community has many grievances, many of which are the direct result of the PAP regime's policies. Some of these include non-conscription in the SAF from 1969-1973 (and limited conscription thereafter), which resulted in mass unemployment, youth alienation and the beginning of the drug problem (employers would not hire Malays who had not served their national service, and since the policy was not communicated to the public, no exemption certificates were distributed), the dilution of Malay-majority electoral blocs through gerrymandering and housing quotas, the fact that their parliamentary representatives are ineffective (which as some might remember prompted a call for a non-partisan 'collective leadership)...the list goes on: eviction of the royal bloodline from Istana Kampong Glam, the tudung issue, government support for regimes perceived as anti-Islam, the support provided for monoethnic SAP schools, the encroachment of the Speak Mandarin campaign into non-exclusively-Chinese media spaces, neglect of their indigenous status, etc. There is a strong sense of dispossession and marginalisation in the community."
The Charade Of Meritocracy
FEER, October 2006
By Dr.Michael D. Barr
The legitimacy of the Singaporean government is predicated on the idea of a meritocratic technocracy. A tiny number of career civil servants play a leading role in setting policy within their ministries and other government-linked bureaucracies, leading both an elite corps of senior bureaucrats, and a much larger group of ordinary civil servants. Virtually all of the elite members of this hierarchy are “scholars,” which in Singapore parlance means they won competitive, bonded government scholarships—the established route into the country’s elite.
Scholars not only lead the Administrative Service, but also the military’s officer corps, as well as the executive ranks of statutory boards and government-linked companies (GLCs). Movement between these four groups is fluid, with even the military officers routinely doing stints in the civilian civil service. Together with their political masters, most of whom are also scholars, they make up the software for the entity commonly known as “Singapore Inc.”—a labyrinth of GLCs, statutory boards and ministries that own or manage around 60% of Singapore’s economy.
The basis of the scholars’ mandate to govern is not merely their performance on the job, but also the integrity of the process that selected them. The educational system is designed to cultivate competition, requiring top students to prove themselves every step of the way. Singapore’s schools first stream students into elite classes after Primary 3 and 4. They then compete for entry into special secondary schools and junior colleges, before vying for government and government-linked scholarships to attend the most prestigious universities around the world.
These scholarships typically require several years of government service after graduation, and the scholars are drafted into the Administrative Service, the officer corps of the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), or the career track of a statutory board or GLC. The government insists that all Singaporeans have equal opportunities to excel in the system, and that everyone who has made it to the top did so purely by academic talent and hard work. Other factors such as gender, socioeconomic background and race supposedly play no more than a marginal role, if they are acknowledged as factors at all.
On the point of race, the Singapore government has long prided itself on having instituted a system of multiracialism that fosters cultural diversity under an umbrella of national unity. This is explicitly supposed to protect the 23% of the population who belong to minority races (mainly ethnic Malays and Indians) from discrimination by the Chinese majority.
But this system conceals several unacknowledged agendas. In our forthcoming book, Constructing Singapore: Elitism, Ethnicity and the Nation-Building Project, Zlatko Skrbiš and I present evidence that the playing field is hardly level. In fact, Singapore’s system of promotion disguises and even facilitates tremendous biases against women, the poor and non-Chinese. Singapore’s administrative and its political elites—especially the younger ones who have come through school in the last 20 or so years—are not the cream of Singapore’s talent as they claim, but are merely a dominant social class, resting on systemic biases to perpetuate regime regeneration based on gender, class and race.
At the peak of the system is the network of prestigious government scholarships. Since independence in 1965, the technique of using government scholarships to recruit cohorts of scholars into the administrative and ruling elite has moved from the periphery of Singaporean society to center stage. Even before independence, a makeshift system of government and Colombo Plan scholarships sent a few outstanding scholars overseas before putting them into government service, including most notably former Prime Minister Goh Chok Tong. Yet as late as 1975 this system had contributed only two out of 14 members of Singapore’s cabinet. Even by 1985, only four out of 12 cabinet ministers were former government scholars.
By 1994, however, the situation had changed beyond recognition, with eight out of 14 cabinet ministers being ex-scholars, including Prime Minister Goh. By 2005 there were 12 ex-scholars in a Cabinet of 19. Of these, five had been SAF scholars, including Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. A perusal of the upper echelons of the ruling elite taken more broadly tells a similar story. In 1994, 12 of the 17 permanent secretaries were scholars, as were 137 of the 210 in the administrative-officer class of the Administrative Service.
The government scholarship system claims to act as a meritocratic sieve—the just reward for young adults with talent and academic dedication. If there is a racial or other bias in the outcomes, then this can only be the result of the uneven distribution of talent and academic application in the community. As Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong put it when he spoke on national television in May 2005, “We are a multiracial society. We must have tolerance, harmony. … And you must have meritocracy … so everybody feels it is fair….” His father, former Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, was making the same point when, in 1989, he told Singapore’s Malay community that they “must learn to compete with everyone else” in the education system.
Yet if Singapore’s meritocracy is truly a level playing field, as the Lees assert, then the Chinese must be much smarter and harder working than the minority Indians and Malays. Consider the distribution of the top jobs in various arms of the Singapore government service in the 1990s (based on research conducted by Ross Worthington in the early 2000s):
• Of the top 30 GLCs only two (6.7%) were chaired by non-Chinese in 1991 (and neither of the non-Chinese was a Malay).
• Of the 38 people who were represented on the most GLC boards in 1998, only two (5.3%) were non-Chinese (and neither of the non-Chinese was a Malay).
• Of the 78 “core people” on statutory boards and GLCs in 1998, seven (9%) were non-Chinese (and one of the non-Chinese was a Malay).
A similar outcome is revealed in the pattern of government scholarships awarded after matriculation from school. Of the 200 winners of Singapore’s most prestigious scholarship, the President’s Scholarship, from 1966-2005 only 14 (6.4%) were not Chinese. But this was not a consistent proportion throughout the period. If we take 1980 as the divider, we find that there were 10 non-Chinese President’s Scholars out of 114 from 1966-80, or 8%, but in the period from 1981-2005 this figure had dropped to four out of 106, or 3.8%. Since independence, the President’s Scholarship has been awarded to only one Malay, in 1968. There has been only one non-Chinese President’s Scholar in the 18 years from 1987 to 2005 (a boy called Mikail Kalimuddin) and he is actually half Chinese, studied in Chinese schools (Chinese High School and Hwa Chong Junior College), and took the Higher Chinese course as his mother tongue. If we broaden our focus to encompass broader constructions of ethnicity, we find that since independence, the President’s Scholarship has been won by only two Muslims (1968 and 2005).
If we consider Singapore’s second-ranked scholarship—the Ministry of Defence’s Singapore Armed Forces Overseas Scholarship (SAFOS)—we find a comparable pattern. The Ministry of Defence did not respond to my request for a list of recipients of SAF scholarships, but using newspaper accounts and information provided by the Ministry of Defence Scholarship Centre and Public Service Commission Scholarship Centre Web sites, I was able to identify 140 (56%) of the 250 SAFOS winners up to 2005.
Although only indicative, this table clearly suggests the Chinese dominance in SAFOS stakes: 98% of SAFOS winners in this sample were Chinese, and about 2% were non-Chinese (counting Mikail Kalimuddin in 2005 as non-Chinese). Furthermore I found not a single Malay recipient and only one Muslim winner (Mikail Kalimuddin). A similar picture emerges in the lower status Singapore Armed Forces Merit Scholarship winners: 71 (25.6%) of 277 (as of late 2005) scholars identified, with 69 (97%) Chinese winners to only two non-Chinese—though there was a Malay recipient in 2004, and one reliable scholar maintains that there have been others.
The position of the non-Chinese in the educational stakes has clearly deteriorated since the beginning of the 1980s. According to the logic of meritocracy, that means the Chinese have been getting smarter, at least compared to the non-Chinese.
Yet the selection of scholars does not depend purely on objective results like exam scores. In the internal processes of awarding scholarships after matriculation results are released, there are plenty of opportunities to exercise subtle forms of discrimination. Extracurricular activities (as recorded in one’s school record), “character” and performance in an interview are also considered. This makes the selection process much more subjective than one would expect in a system that claims to be a meritocracy, and it creates ample opportunity for racial and other prejudices to operate with relative freedom.
Is there evidence that such biases operate at this level? Unsurprisingly, the answer to this question is “yes.” Take for instance a 2004 promotional supplement in the country’s main newspaper used to recruit applicants for scholarships. The advertorial articles accompanying the paid advertisements featured only one non-Chinese scholar (a Malay on a lowly “local” scholarship) amongst 28 Chinese on prestigious overseas scholarships. Even more disturbing for what they reveal about the prejudices of those offering the scholarships were the paid advertisements placed by government ministries, statutory boards and GLCs. Of the 30 scholars who were both prominent and can be racially identified by their photographs or their names without any doubt as to accuracy, every one of them was Chinese. This leaves not a shadow of a doubt that those people granting government and government-linked scholarships presume that the vast majority of high-level winners will be Chinese.
The absence of Malays from the SAFOS scholarships and their near-absence from the SAF Merit Scholarships deserves special mention because this is an extension of discrimination against the admission of Malays into senior and sensitive positions in the SAF that is officially sanctioned. The discrimination against Malays has been discussed in parliament and the media, and is justified by the assertion that the loyalty of Malays cannot be assumed, both because they are Muslim and because they have a racial and ethnic affinity with the Malays in Malaysia and Indonesia. Current Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has historically been a vocal defender of this policy.
This discrimination hits Malay men hard, first because it deprives many of promising careers in the army, and second—and more pertinent for our study of the elite—it all but completely excludes potentially high-flying Malays of a chance of entering the scholar class through the SAF. A Chinese woman has a much better chance of winning an SAF scholarship than a Malay man.
Yet even before the scholarship stage, the education system has stacked the deck in favor of Chinese, starting in preschool. Here is the heart of Singapore’s systemic discrimination against non-Chinese. Since the end of the 1970s, the principles of “meritocracy” and “multiracialism” have been subverted by a form of government-driven Chinese chauvinism that has marginalized the minorities. It was not known to the public at the time, but as early as 1978, then Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew had begun referring to Singapore as a “Confucian society” in his dealings with foreign dignitaries. This proved to be the beginning of a shift from his record as a defender of a communally neutral form of multiracialism toward a policy of actively promoting a Chinese-dominated Singapore.
The early outward signs of the Sinicization program were the privileging of Chinese education, Chinese language and selectively chosen “Chinese values” in an overt and successful effort to create a Mandarin- and English-speaking elite who would dominate public life. Two of the most important planks of this campaign were decided in 1979: the annual “Speak Mandarin Campaign” and the decision to preserve and foster a collection of elite Chinese-medium schools, known as Special Assistance Plan (SAP) schools.
The SAP schools are explicitly designed to have a Chinese ambience, right down to Chinese gardens, windows shaped like plum blossoms, Chinese orchestra and drama, and exchange programs with mainland China and Taiwan. Over the years the children in SAP schools have been given multiple advantages over those in ordinary schools, including exclusive preschool programs and special consideration for preuniversity scholarships.
For instance, in the early 1980s, when there was a serious shortage of graduate English teachers in schools, the Ministry of Education ensured there were enough allocated to SAP schools “to help improve standards of English among the Chinese-medium students, in the hope that they will be able to make it to university”—a target brought closer by the granting of two O-level bonus points exclusively to SAP school students when they applied to enter junior college. By contrast, neither Indians nor Malays received any special help, let alone schools of their own to address their special needs. They were not only left to fend for themselves, but were sometimes subjected to wanton neglect: inadequately trained teachers, substandard facilities and resources and the “knowledge” that they are not as good as the Chinese.
This account of discrimination against non-Chinese might lead the reader to assume that the quarter of Singaporeans who are not Chinese must form a festering and perhaps even revolutionary mass of resentment. Such an assumption would, however, be a long way from the mark. Non-Chinese might be largely excluded from the highest levels of the administrative elite, but just below these rarefied heights there plenty of positions open to intelligent and hardworking non-Chinese—certainly enough to ensure that non-Chinese communities have much to gain by enthusiastically buying into the system, even after the glass ceilings and racial barriers are taken into account. There are many grievances and resentments in these levels of society but the grievances are muted and balanced by an appreciation of the relative comforts and prosperity they enjoy. For most, any tendency to complain is subdued also by knowledge that it could be worse, and the widespread assumption among members of minority communities that it will be if they seriously pursue their grievances. As long as the Singapore system continues to deal such people a satisfactory hand, if not a fair one, it should be able to cope with some quiet rumblings in the ranks.
While this discrimination is not sparking a reaction that threatens the regime in the short term, the resulting injustices are certainly undermining the myth that the regime operates on meritocratic principles. This is worrying in the longer term because this myth, along with the capacity to deliver peace and prosperity, is one of the primary rationales by which Singaporeans reluctantly accept the many unpopular aspects of the regime, such as the lack of freedom and democracy, the intrusion of government into most aspects of private life, the pressure-cooker lifestyle and the high cost of living.
The rhetoric of meritocracy has given Singaporeans the consolation of believing that their ruling elite are the best of the best and can therefore be trusted almost blindly on important matters, even if they are highhanded and lack the common touch. As this illusion gradually falls away—and today it is already heavily undermined—the trust that Singaporeans have for their government is becoming increasingly qualified. It remains to be seen how long the regime can avert the logical consequences of the contradictions between the myth and the reality.
Mr. Barr is a lecturer at the University of Queensland and author of Lee Kuan Yew: The Beliefs Behind the Man (Routledge, 2000) and Cultural Politics and Asian Values: The Tepid War (Routledge, 2002).
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Jeng3
p/s - Wonder what Tun could have achieved if he was PM the same time as LKY?
salam Tun,
JB_FROM,
I also have a question for you.In the fifties and sixties right up to the seventies after Singapore pulled out from Malaysia,which city was the most modern and most well developed?
Through which city did most of our exports (including natural resources) go through to be exported?
We did not have many choices then.But now we are beginning to compete.
Of course per capita income is VERY important,but as I said it's not ALL-IMPORTANT!Do not forget LONG TERM POTENTIALS.Even LKY knew Singapore's limitations when he voiced out not too long ago that they might have to rejoin the Federation in the future.We have natural resources,they don't!Think long run as in half a century then you will see things differently.
I reiterate that a couple more economic turmoils or a major natural disaster might change the whole scenario.Not to mention that the island is sinking!(Six Degrees That Could Change The World)
To compete ,we need time.We will see what the future brings.God willing if we have visionary leaders we will suceed.
What say you?Are you really a Malay?
Jeng3
To JJJ,
"A tiny nation of 4 million citizens with a strategic port can be misleading but can they sustain in the long run?.We have 25 million and much land is still undeveloped.We'll see what happens 50 years from now.The odds are much better for us as we HAVE THE RESOURCES!"
I got a question for you, why is that our economy is still behind Singapore when we "HAVE THE RESOURCES" but they don't. The odds is not with us 30 to 40 years ago?
Should'n we worried about what is going to happen to our nation then to worry about whether Singapore can sustain their economy? So far they are doing quite well sustaining themselves. In fact their currency is more then 2 times stronger then us. Some time ago, both of the currency is at par with each other.
The income per capita is not important? How in the world we the Malay are going to live satisfactorily if the income is barely enough? Do you think the Malay people is happy with their income and state of well being of "just enough" in this country?.
Some people are not living in reality but in wonderland.
This game is played by some politician who are targeting Singapore to divert people attention from the real problem faced in the country.
Politician do that all the time in our country as well as in other countries. However, we the people after 50 years of independence must be mature to see what is the truth, what is important and what is not relevant rather then following our emotion stirred by politician.
JB_FROM
By UpholdjusticeAuthor Profile Page on June 19, 2009 9:39 AM
Dear Ir. Syahrizan,
Constantly arguing that this is a Malay land would only serve to hurt the feelings of the Orang asli,orang Iban and orang Kadazan.
Comment:
The early Chinese reference of of " Tanah Melayu or Malaysia as it is known today is Tanah Ujong and Singapore as Pulau Ujong directly translated 'lands end' or 'end island' being the most southern tip of the mainland Asia. They also referred the inhabitants of these land and surrounding Islands of Java, Sumatra, Borneo and the Philippines as "Wu La yau" ( pardon my spelling ) and that means Melayu or Malay in english. (The Malays refers it as " Rumpun Melayu" )
Just because the Malays speak a with their own dialect, does'nt mean they did not belong to this land. Its akin to saying India belongs to the Indians will serve to hurt the feeling of the Tamils, Benggalis, the sikh and hundreds other dialect speaking Indian and same goes with China. By your deduction China did not belong to the Chinese because it too will hurt the feeling of the Hainanese, Hakka, Hokkien, Cantonese and so on.
Please sir do not be an ungrateful ingrates and try to confuse the blog readers with your evil mind of trying to play the colonial game of " divide and rule "
I dont know where your roots come from but like a wise person once said " let people assume you to be a fool rather you open your mouth and confirm the belief "
"Upholdjustice" indeed.......A "hypocrites" is more appropriate.
'Mat Rock rules"
Selamat pagi Tun,
From the grassroots level, I heard "fitnah lagi" that Tun Dr M is mean and bad-mouthing Mr Lee Kuan Yew by calling him as the EMPEROR (here, I used the word calling instead of "fitnah-ing" because Tun Dr M know his conscience very clear and he knows what is the best tested model for Malaysia Boleh and now is re-branded to 1Malaysia, our beloved country regardless of races) because "Saya Anak Malaysia". I will never say that "Saya Anak Malaysia Juga" because my conscience is clear and Malaysia is my home sweet home no matter what happens.
Well, when I said Malaysia is charging Singapore at RM0.03 per 1000 gallon water, he (the towkay kedai cina) agreed that the rate is too low LAH. He laughed and did not say anything. In order to solve this conflict immediately, I used a famous "proverb" which I have learned from TVBI's series drama on China's history, "Kat On Koon Foh", due to his age of 60 years old +. He stopped laughing and I am sure he will need time to digest this proverb.
"Kat On Koon Foh" is an ancient chinese proverb translated in cantonese which means (direct translation from the proverb):-
1. In BM - Memandang orang sendiri membunuh sesama diri di tanahair nya dari belakang kerana sikap "Takut" dan "Lalang".
2. In BI - Watching your people killing each other from behind, and you did not stop and help them because of the attitude of coward and self-centered (self-protection) or human nature.
"Kat On Koon Foh" means Lalang or Kiasu LAH in order for our younger generation to understand, I am sure Singaporeans (chinese) will never understand the meaning because their mind was shaped and controlled by this little Emperor through No Press Freedom, that's democracy and liberalism in Singapore, ha...ha.... Mereka buat boleh, kita buat tak boleh!!!! Malaysia tidak boleh buat begitu kerana ajaran tulen Islam tidak membenarkan kekerasan.
Now, I direct this proverb to those BN and PR politicians, excluding our federal government, who are so busy with their self interest (the batu api or opportunist politicians):-
1. BN - the famous SIL, Tun Lah, and not forgetting the old "ham sap Emperor" Mr Chua, Mr Lim Kheng Yaik and Mr Samy Vellu. Mulut BN, hati pulak, PAS, PKR, DAP pun boleh.
2. PR - the famous Mr Anwar (Saya UMNOPUTRA juga), Zaid Ibrahim, the famous lawyer (who claims that "Dia Melayu Juga"), Mat Isa (the timbalan president PAS - kalau namanya disebut salah, saya minta maaf kerana saya cina).
Tetapi, apabila "Tuhan" tidak mengizinkan nasib mereka, mereka terus jadi lalang!!!!!! Mereka ini ingat pentadbiran negara adalah seperti pergi pasar beli sayur ke, hai.... pilu hati saya melihat mereka buat begitu. Nak buat macam mana, tetapi, saya percaya mereka ini pasti akan dapat balasan dari Tuhan!
See, Ayahanda Tun, we are now watching this "Kat On koon Foh"scenario and it will be our modern history 10 - 15 years from now. What shall we do now Malaysia????? Are prepared to pay for the price? I have chosen not to pay for the price, I will work hard and make sure Malaysia will ride through this stormy weather (well, we have this storm every 10 years).
Good day Ayahanda Tun.
P/S. Mr Chua Soi Lek, sorry I can’t forgive and forget what you have done to your wife and children because I am a woman. I believe that if a man can “curi makan” behind his beloved family, he can “curi makan” behind our kings and rakyat. Well, this is women rights!!!!
Dear Tun,
If I may comment on "By aniesaAuthor Profile Page on June 18, 2009 12:10 AM"
There was this incident that happen that not many Malay Singaporean like "aniesa" knew...A Malay Singaporean was selected by the local tv station to present the English news during primetime base on his/her merit and immaculate english. As soon as he/she finishes, the station was flooded with calls from the public complaining " how come ahh you allow this malay to read the english news ahh " and the rest is history and if I believe that singapore Malay graduate from one of the top British University and if I'm not mistaken it's called University of Oxford.
As for all you ingrates who keep on harping on how good the Singapore Govt. is compare to Malaysia why don't you migrate to Singapore. The good news is if you are a Chinese and applied a work permit in Singapore, within a week you will most probably receive a letter by the Singaporean govt. offering you a PR status. Unfortunately if your IC stated that if you are a Malay even though you are born a Christian since childbirth with a christian name, well you have to wait for sometime and that could be a decade. It does'nt matter if you are well known. I'm referring this to the Filipino Malay. As for the Indians I've got no comment you could try your luck there. They say the pasture is much greener over there. For I know lots of my Singaporean Chinese friends who are more than willing to call Malaysia their home.
As for "aniesa", you remind me of this girl when met at a club in orchard road, was asked " excuse me, are you Malay", and she arrogantly replied " oh no, I'm Bugis". It just makes me wonder You so called Javanese, Boyanese and Bugis, when you go back to your little HDB flats, what language did you speak at home. If they said they speak their own dialect, I have only this to say " Bedek ka Babe" and dont you ever wonder under the column "Race" in the Singapore red IC it will state "Chinese" and not Hakka, Hokkien, Cantonese or Hainanese for that matter even though unlike you, they do actually practice their own dialect at home.....duhh....hello!
Well in your case I do understand why people like you will never hold an important post or in your own word "are not somewhere up there in the corporate ladder or the top of some ministry.
Tun,
100% agree with you about the tiny kingdom. I don’t think they have any advice for us. Malaysia is a better country than the tiny kingdom and if not for some corrupted people administrating Malaysia, Malaysia is would have been top 20 countries of the world. Too bad we are not now!!
The 5th PM must continue to fight and demand that the water price be change. This is the most important subject for Malaysia and they are still dragging their feet on the matter. It seems that no one is talking about the subject anymore? Since the rate is not good, we should sell less water (50%) to them and make them understand “supply and demand” The law of commerce is the same all over the world why we should relax the law for them?
STOP SUPPLYING WATER TO THE TINY PIECE OF LAND IF THEY DON’T PAY
Selamat pagi Ayahanda Tun,
Di sini saya ingin menjelaskan mengapakah saya memanggil Tok Dek sebagai Ayahanda (Rakyat). Saya tahu memang wujudnya sesetengah pihak, kaum melayu, cina, india dan minoriti memang mempunyai sindrom "denial". Pada pihak orang melayu, pakbelalang telah menjelaskan sebabnya mereka ini tidak boleh menerima hakikat ini. Pada sesetengah pihak orang cina dan india pulak kata("fitnah" is the appropriate word because Malaysia practices democracy and human rights) saya pengkhianat bangsa cina memang tidak suka saya menggunakan gelaran ini. Kepada saya, pihak2 ini tidak dapat membezakan apakah itu kaum, apakah itu bangsa, dan mereka ini LAH yang menjerit untuk (yelling for) demokrasi dan hak asasi manusia. Jika mereka ini dapat membezakan definasi kaum dan bangsa, saya percaya bahawa konsep 1Malaysia pasti akan berjaya. Always remember, "siapa cepat assimiliate konsep ini, siapa akan cepat dapat menyesuaikan dirinya untuk mencari makan dan mengembangkan ekonomi negara di tanahair sendiri dan di peringkat antarabangsa tanpa mengira kaum dan agama."
Izinkan Ayahanda....
//By huzanna on June 18, 2009 1:25 AM//
Assalamualaikum Tun Yang Amat Dihormati,
P.S:Kepada Puan HBT yang dihormati,
Pada pendapat saya,apa kata buat masa ini Puan tidak payah layan Si Ravi yang berlagak hero,tu.Oleh kerana komennya selalu 'dilepaskan',maka menjadi-jadilah perangainya....macam siapa ye....oh ye,macam seorang Yb yang jadi'sasau'dalam parlimen tiga hari sudah, tu.Tapi nak buat macam manakan.., dah kena sindrom ni,
orang macam Si Ravi ni mana tahu nak beradap bila ke 'rumah'orang.
Kepada Lim lao bei:Tun 'sour grape'??'Sour grape'kan bagus sebagai penawar kepada rasa 'meloyakan'menutraelkan pemikiran seperti kamu!!//
Dear Cik Huzzana,
Ya, si Ravi anggap drinya "Hero" dan menyalak kat blog 4th PM kita seperti "pariah" yang selalu lelap mata tanpa sedar diri, jadi nak buat macam mana? Kan Tun Dr M telah mengatakan hasrat beliau ialah selepas beliau "resigned", he thought that he could enjoy some "good old times" with these people (his ex-employees and friends whom he once trusted), tetapi kerana hasrat mereka yang tersirat mungkin yang telah membutakan mata dan hati mereka, mereka tidak sedar (atau buat bodoh LAH) bahawa apakah itu pepaduan, kemakmuran dan keselamatan negara kita, dan apakah event
"aftermath" jika mereka dibiarkan buat begitu sesuka hati. Jadi, kepada saya, saya akan "confront" issue Ravi "lao bei" - mandarin means orang tua, in cantonese , kita panggil Ah Pak, dan panggilan hokkien ialah Ah Pek. Kalau si Ravi bijak, dia mesti faham maksud tersirat saya, menerima atau tidak, kita biar LAH Ah Pak Ravi tentukan.
Ya, 'Sour grape'kan bagus sebagai penawar kepada rasa
'meloyakan'menutraelkan pemikiran mereka yang sempit dan jeles (jealous). Kerana mereka mempunyai pemikiran ini, mereka tidak dapat merasakan “taste grape” yang ori, mereka fitnah (ha..ha..) grape” merupakan buah yang “sour”.
Once agin terima kasih banyak2, Cik Huzzana, kerana sudi membaca komen kak HBT. Take care and work hard with sincerity and May "Allah" always be with you.
Good day Ayahanda Tun.
salam tun,
saya sekali lagi ingin memohon maaf jika kenyatan saya beberapa hari itu agak memeranjatkan..
tp bagi saya yg jelas..
setelah kita sekat kemasukan media perdana Barat
mereka muncul melalui internet
mempengaruhi generasi baru yg jahil agama..
tapi yang peliknya mereka mengaitkan corruption,israel,vatican, vs iran..kita berprinsip sebagai negara berkecuali.
dalam komen-komen video mereka,setelah sy selidik rupa-rupanya mereka memainkan isu spt akhlak nabi,hak perempuan dsb..dan sudah sampai tahap hadis palsu..jelas mereka berniat sesuatu..sudah sampai masa internet dibataskan..saya cuma takut anak-anak muda seperti saya akan mengikut rentak mereka..
tuk rujukan Tun id saya saussier..tp sy delete semua komen lain sbb takut cetus tension antara agama.
tolong kita orang melayu kena pertahankan islam.
Salam Tun
Nak komen Zac....
Harapan orang Melayu berilmu , berakhlak...Maju....
Jangan Harap la....
No.1 :
Bahasa Ilmu Dunia sekarang adalah bahasa Inggeris. Ade pulak Pak Politician....Pak Menteri....Pak NGO....Pak Guru...Pak Idealis kata tak payah....semua kena bahasa melayu.
"Jepun ...Korea....China guna bahasa dia untuk teknikal...kenapa melayu tak boleh? Org lain translate kita buat gak la.
Cuba tengok buku sejarah....Jepun ...bila dia start pemodenan?....Meiji Tenno punya zaman la!!! Korea?.....lebih kurang zaman tu la. China? Toksah cerita la.
Kita start bila? Lepas merdeka la. 50 lebih tahun jer.
Buat la....translate la.....Orang dah sampai mana-mana....kita terhegeh hegeh menterjemah. Dah lah sekarang cicir dari orang lain.....bila buat apa yg idealis ni cakap....tambah jauh la cicir dan tak berhenti2 la translating...bukan inventing.
Kesimpulan ada kalangan mahu Melayu kekal bodoh dan penguna ilmu orang secara berkekalan.
2. "Ala....macam bagus"! Budak melayu takut buat kerja lebih....belajar lebih....sanggup terima challang lebih kerana takut di lebel "Macam bagus" Lalu ended up tak buat apa-apa.
Kalau saya---- saya tak peduli orang kata....memang saya nak jadi bagus....
3. Budak Melayu yg ada "paper" takut pegang responsibility. Bila nak lantik dia tak nak....Lalu dipilih oleh Mgt Ah Chong atau Muniandy. Lepas tu dia yg paling kuat gadoh....Apa ni ...kenapa tak ambil Melayu? Dah telor tak ade lagi berani mau tanya. Melayu suka makan gaji buta.
Salam Tun.
Sign 1 :
Some comparison made between Seremban,Ipoh and Penang by LKY created commotion between Lim and Koh. Both try to please LKY.
Sign 2 :
Singapore - Malaysia relation during the tenure of the Great 5th....Singapore constantly on the upper hand. (Ade barter trade ke ni....PL and KJ tolong jawab).
Both sign shows that :
The emperor is the emperor already. Two type of subjects exist in the hinterland up north the Modern Middle World. Mmmm....Maharaja LKY.
Sir,
while you choose to nitpick and insult LKY over his every action and comment, you have forgotten to highlight his achievements during his illustrious career as PM of Singapore.
These are the facts.
At the time when Singapore was formed, Malaysia possessed the largest and most prosperous economy. It was blessed with abundance in natural resources and a large labor force. This made it the envy of every nation in SEA, including Singapore.
However,
within a span of 40 years, Singapore has matured and grown into a prosperous nation, with a per capita income of US$52 000 (as of 2008), far surpassing Malaysia's per capita income of US$15 300 (as of 2008). All these in spite of the huge setbacks posed by Singapore's lack of manpower, land, and natural resources. This is largely due to the fact that we have in place an efficient and far-sighted government. Say what you may about Singapore and its government officials, but the facts speak for themselves.
What about you, Dr Mahathir?
You routinely mention that the Malays in Singapore are being undermined and suppressed. Let me assure you. That is not the case. The Malays in Singapore are given Equal opportunities to succeed and excel. Just last year, the Top PSLE student came from the Malay community. We have also various policies in place to ensure that the Malay population in Singapore is being represented in parliament, for eg. the GRC policy, which states that every GRC (group representation constituencies) must have a minority candidate. The government understands and respects the Malays as the original inhabitants of Singapore, and therefore grants them free primary education.
Malaysia, however, has constantly trodden on the rights of its minority citizens. Tun Abdul Razak launched the controversial "Malaysian New Economic policy", which effectively grants malays residing in Malaysia greater privileges and rights than the other citizens of the country. This policy results in non-malays becoming second-class citizens, hence the instability during the recent Malaysian elections.
If you truly fight for equality, you would have removed this policy during your term in office. You did not.
Dr Mahathir, i speak from an unbiased point of view of the matter. I acknowledge that LKY's methods may be harsh to some extent, but the point is, he has catapulted Singapore onto the world map, bringing much prosperity and stability to the country.
I respectfully urge you to relook your comments on our country and government officials and do something more substantial than insult and tarnish our reputation.
The journey of Mr. Lee Kuan Jew..Oops... Yew.... hehe...
Kung Fu: The Legend Continues...
Wachaa!
LKY melawat Malaysia dan berjumpa dengan seberapa banyak orang-orang yang berkepentingan kerana terdesak untuk mendapatkan pasir dari Malaysia.
Selesaikan dulu masalah CIQ di Johor dengan membina jambatan untuk menggantikan tambak. Sila pandu dari JB ke Singapura dan sebaliknya, anda pasti faham kenapa jambatan perlu bagi menngantikan tambak.
Dengan menggantikan tambak dengan jambatan, pengguna pengangkutan air dapat bergerak dari Tg Pelepas ke Pasir Gudang tanpa perlu melalui selatan Singapura. Sepanjang Selat Johor dapat dimajukan dengan infrastruktur seperti marina dan jeti penumpang.
Tidak perlu jambatan ketiga kerana lebuhraya Senai - Desaru sedang dalam pembinaan.
Tuanku Sultan Johor tidak setuju dengan cadangan Jambatan Ketiga, sebagai rakyat Johor, saya menyokong penuh titah tuanku.
Nama saya daud. Saya mengharapkan Tun dan Tun Siti Hasmah dalam keadaan yang terbaik.
Terlebih dahulu saya minta maaf kerana apa yang saya tulis disini adalah di luar topik dan adalah berbentuk pembacaan saya.
Tujuan saya disini adalah untuk memberitahu Tun tentang sebuah buku yang saya baca baru- baru ini.Pada pandangan saya ianya sangat-sangat menarik dan saya kategorikan sebagai 7 bintang. Buku itu adalah sebuah cerita benar tentang perjuangan rakyat Algeria menentang penaklukan Peranchis melalui peperangan. Dan iaya adalah buku berbahasa English.
Saya ingin berkongsi cerita ini dengan Tun Memandangkan Tun sangat sukakan ilmu dan membuat kajian.
Saya sekali lagi minta maaf sekiranya apa yang saya katakan disini seolah-olah macam mengarah Tun membuat sesuatu secara halus (indirect dictatorial). Saya tidak berniat begitu, saya hanya ingin berkongsi cerita.
Sekiranya Tun sudah baca buku itu lupakan saja apa yang saya tulis disini.
Disini saya ada sertakan tajuk dan nombor ISBN buku tersebut. Ianya boleh didapati di Kinokuniya KLCC.
Tajuk: Commander Of The Faithfull-The Life and Times of Emir Abd el-Kader
ISBN : 978-09798828-3-8
Terima kasih banyak atas perhatian Tun,
Lee Kuan Yew is a bastard. His tendency to betray his comrades is well known. In the early part of his political career, he betrayed his communist comrades and was popularly known as Shifty Lee. Later he betrayed all the trust of the Chinese in Malaysia when he could not resist the temptation of becoming an emperor in a new nation by accepting the offer from Tengku Abdul Rahman to form Singapore. He was renowned to be far-sigted. He anticipated the renaissance of China in the early eighties. A person of his calibre surely could have forseen that those Chinese citizen remaining in Malaysia would be less politically influencial and thus would enjoy less in a Malay donimated country when he selfishly took Singapore together with about 2-3 million Chinese away from Malaysia. I can not blame a Malay for fighting for Malay political rights in Malaysia but I certainly cannot forgive a traitor among us Chinese who betrayed us at the crucial time and let us fend for ourselves. I wonder why historians did not reassess Lee Kuan Yew's role in lowering Malaysian Chinese's political power in Malaysia. Probably for the overseas Chinese, they need a hero and found one in Lee Kuan Yew who is good at silencing his critics by all means possible.
salam sejahtera tun..
Saya ada 1 permintaan. boleh tak tun ulas secara lebih terperinci (mengikut pendapat tun) tentang KERAJAAN PERPADUAN yg ideanya dikeluarkan oleh presiden PAS, Tuan Guru Dato Seri Hj Hadi Awang?
rakyat terkeliru.. apa sebenranya yang jadi ni? ada dlm PAS yg sokong (cam nasharuddin, Azizan, Mustafa) dan ada yg tak (cam tok guru Nik Aziz, Husam)..
apa komen & pendapat tun? harap tun dapat buat 1 tajuk utama dalam blog ini..ini permintaan saya dan juga penulis, pengunjung dan pembaca blog tun..
sekian..
Ada agenda!
Nampaknya , macam mesti ada tulisan sumbang yang mengajak kita bersikap racist.
Sengaja menuduh Tun racist supaya ada yang melatah.
Nak tanya ni, apa yang racist nya?
Adakah sebab Tun sebut orang melayu?
Bukankah Tun orang melayu?
Mestilah Tun bercakap tentang orang melayu.
Contoh yang paling dekat, selesa dan benar.
Orang hebat itu yang datang mengadap hari tu pun berhujah dengan menyebut bangsanya, macam tu tak racist ke?
Aren't they shallow and definitely desperate?!
Hak rakyat mesti jaga dahulu.
Bila berurusan dengan pihak luar, keutamaan ialah, hasilnya tidak menyahkan hak atau memporak perandakan rakyat.
Ini , ahli politik mesti jaga.
Tidak dapat tidak, MESTI!
Sekelumit kuman pun, sekiranya ia tidak memihak kepada kesejahteraan rakyat dahulu, ianya tidak boleh berlaku langsung.
Kalau mereka pun, apakah mereka akan menguruskannya dengan cara yang berbeza dan mahu ambil sikap bertolak ansur dengan kita – pastinya tidak, bukan?
Kalau kita mahu berurusan tetapi tidak ikut mereka , maka kita ini di label ‘melampau’, macam tu?
Kalau kita mahu ikut cara mereka – kita ini di label ‘sivil’ pula, macam tu?
Hmph, harga air nyata tidak lojik .
Kita rakyat sendiri pun kena bayar dengan harga yang mahal.
Kalau terlepas bayar dapat surat merah dan sekarang ini, kena catu pulak!
Apa-apa pun.
Walaupun ia termeterai dalam kontrak.
Bila ianya tidak lojik.
Malah berlanjutan seperti tiada apa-apa yang tidak kena.
Maka, ia adalah EHSAN dari setiap rakyat Malaysia.
Justeru, kerana menadah ehsan , yang menyangka hebat itu, sebenar nya tidaklah sehebat mana .
Assalamualaikum.Salam hormat buat Tun berdua.Semoga sentiasa diberkati dengan tahap kesihatan yang baik.
Dear Tun,
You are amazing. You are a big help in shaping the current Malaysian politic-ing style to today lowest level.
Now you are practicing these Malaysian style politic to international level.Rest assure, no leader will response to your emotionally outburst,they had better things to do. Like you rightly said :I AM A NOBODY.
Assalamualaikum Tun Sir,
Thank you indeed for yet another eye opening piece on singapore namely LKY. Whilst this piece and the many you expressed before this has always been profound and telling.. Its immediately forgotten soon after and Malaysians (read the malays) go on doing the same old thing with this issue.. loosing their guard.The 5th PM went on perfecting this art of forgetting this issue and proceeded to give Singapore what they want like you said. Oh, and go away Scot free at that!
The Managing editor of the STAR wrote a very good piece on negotiating with Singapore today, and I thought he puts it very well on the need to underscore the spirit behind meaningful negotiation and not make it as a case of leveraging to the maximum like the way Singapore did on the water deal.
I've heard somewhere of this popular pun likened to a popular radio station called WW-II-FM or a short for "What's in it for me", used on people who insist on a slice of the cake for themselves when they negotiate or played a part in a negotiation, but Singapore or LKY take this always to an unprecedented heights, Theirs is the true blue 'kia-su' attitude that is about scoring in a deal even if your partner lie dead immediately after.
To the lesser minded who accuses you of never ending hatred, obsessed and ranting of an old mind. They need to truly sit back and re examine their brain for it is their very blunt pencils that would end up inking silly deals with kia sus like LKY and the like minded.
SALAM AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
By Nathalie KAuthor Profile Page on June 19, 2009 1:19 AM
Ah, I don't know if these comments are read by the great man, yourself, but, oh whatever.
This is my first time visiting your blog, and I am amazed at the political views you have on my beloved country. I'm 14,...
AFTER READING THIS 14 YEAR OLD COMMENTS, THIS OLD 'SAMURAIMELAYU' HAS TO CONFESS THAT HE IS NOT SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADE..
WELL SAID 'YOUNG' NATHALIE K..ARE YOU?
TAKE CARE AND MAY THE ALMIGHTY BLESS YOU WITH A BRIGHT FUTURE.
To Abdulrahman - the 17 years old Malay boy in JB.
I am a Malaysian Chinese and much more older than you - yet I couldn't be as articulate as you. You have laid out your neutral points in a way thats beyond your age. I am so glad!
If all Malays are like you. Hell, Malaysia could even surpassed the best in East Asia. And damn there will be less of this 'Malay-Chinese' issues which I am getting very sick of it.
rgds
Baiyuensheng
To Pet Reeves,
You wrote "I always believe there is a time for a man,.... past that time he should keep quiet, or being perceived as being demented".
Why are not telling the same to LKY. We need constructive view and not lame comments. We don't need jitters like you here.
Dear YABhg Tun
To me, the words Meritocracy & Democracy that some people thought really been practiced in Singapura are actually just Fake and Cosmetics, or it can be considered as "Wayang Saja"...
The real Truth is, the Malays have been discriminated in all aspects in life even to practise their religions obligation being minimized to comply with the Singapura's autocratic requirements, and many others so as to ensure they have no say at all through continous administrative machineries and policies , and even a Malay was never been allowed to fly any SAF jets or planes just because their loyalty is questioned by their own government.
But still many people so ignorantly think that there are freedom in that tight-lip island. So pity on them, hahaha... i cannot stop laughing when these people try very hard to "menegakkan benang yang basah" haha.
And I only subscribe to the fact that Singapura being developed well earlier than us in Malaysia is just because they are so fortunate because all crucial modern infrastructures were already been built by the British Administration and we have to know that during colonial era, all the resources and gains from the Malay Peninsular from plantations to mining lands all will have to be consolidated in Singapura before being sent to London. Of course lah, this small island should developed so fast, sorry, it is not because under the Lee Kwan Yew that island prosper, the fact is, LKY inherited the prosperity that already set-up by the British.
It's a great failure and shame if he's not able to continue the development that already under-way. If I were him I could have done even better.......
To HBT,
Your comment,
"
Why you work in KL then????? It is because our MCA sleeping jugak and buat bodoh like Tun Lah ke? An engineer does not know how economy works, Singaporeans are drawing higher salary because they need to pay high tax and housing installments. If you want to have high salary, make sure our governmnet can kutip tax lo so that our government can allow all salary be increased lah! Because we have too many politicians, this is why government cannot implement the system that Singapore is doing, faham ke, JB!"
Why shoud I refer to MCA, I am a Malay!!!.
Your comment about Singaporean getting higher income because they need to pay higher tax and housing installment is dumbest thing I ever heard.
We should take the income per capita as a reference among other things, that is my point. This is one of the true indicators for comparisons.
What is the point when our politician says that this country is ours but we the Malay are paid sub standard salaries barely enough and at par with Third world country. Then they try to compare our self with Singaporean?
salam Tun,
to tehtarik,
ok fair enough if your friend spends S$200 per month on public transport there.
But only go to work and school to and fro and go to town once a week,perhaps?Cos my relatives and friends there need to spend at least S$500 per month to fully accomodate their transportation needs.
You see some of my relatives cannot afford to buy a car and the best they can hope for is a scooter.
Anyway,your friend must be an eco-warrior type or a soon to be extinct species.An engineer with no car?We're talking about the land of the 'kiasus'here and one upsmanship is the name of the game.
to Godfather,
please do not bullshit us with per capita income.Life is not all about IPC.A tiny nation of 4 million citizens with a strategic port can be misleading but can they sustain in the long run?.We have 25 million and much land is still undeveloped.We'll see what happens 50 years from now.The odds are much better for us as we HAVE THE RESOURCES!
We can build a canal at Segentng Kra ala the Panama Canal,can we?We have the technology which can effectively kill Singapore but we still believe in 'prosper thy neighbour'.Remember how Singapore reacted when the world's biggest container line relocated to PTP?
Anyway I would suggest you migrate to another country as you have no sense of gratefulness to this country whatsoever.Or maybe you are not a citizen after all?
to Jaquar,
once again please read this article on the internet;
The Charade Of Meritocracy
FEER, October 2006
By Dr.Michael D. Barr
another quote;
"The Malay community has many grievances, many of which are the direct result of the PAP regime's policies. Some of these include non-conscription in the SAF from 1969-1973 (and limited conscription thereafter), which resulted in mass unemployment, youth alienation and the beginning of the drug problem (employers would not hire Malays who had not served their national service, and since the policy was not communicated to the public, no exemption certificates were distributed), the dilution of Malay-majority electoral blocs through gerrymandering and housing quotas, the fact that their parliamentary representatives are ineffective (which as some might remember prompted a call for a non-partisan 'collective leadership)...the list goes on: eviction of the royal bloodline from Istana Kampong Glam, the tudung issue, government support for regimes perceived as anti-Islam, the support provided for monoethnic SAP schools, the encroachment of the Speak Mandarin campaign into non-exclusively-Chinese media spaces, neglect of their indigenous status, etc. There is a strong sense of dispossession and marginalisation in the community."
Thanks LKY,the little emperor who's got a finger in every pie.Talk about cronyism!FEED THE MOUTH TO SHUT THE MOUTH UP certainly works well there!
If LKY was a Malay leader doing the same here, I wonder what will happen?
Think about it.
Jeng3
Dengan Izin Tun..Terimakasih..
virtual11
[[engko belajar sesuatu yg berguna dari komik2 tuh..]]
Alahai virtual11..Wan Yat Leung memperkatakan sesuatu iaitu cara hidup komando yang sepi kerana memilih untuk berkhidmat kepada negaranya..
Kerana Command "do" orang-orang seperti mereka dan kami amat menderita..namun kami tunduk dan patuh kepada hakikat dan kenyataan..lihat kata-kata Waja Timur ini..
Aku tidak sukakan hujan kerana ianya membawa kesepian dan kesedihan..Tetapi aku menerimanya kerana ia telah di takdirkan..
Virtual11 faham tak moral cerita dari Aesop ?
Maka arnab yang telah meninggalkan kura-kura yang jauh itu pun berehat kerana cukup pasti kura-kura tidak dapat mengejarnya..akhirnya dia tertidur dan kalah..
Moral cerita tu yang penting iaitu never slack your advantage..
Never lags when you are ahead..!
Virtual11 pasti bukan golongan pendekar melayu kerana jika benar anda tentu akan faham hakikat hidup dan moraliti pendekar melayu..
Pendekar melayu ada dua code of conduct yang agung..
1) Pantang Pendekar membela diri
2) Pantang Pendekar membilang lawan
Tuan punya blog ini Tun Dr Mahathir juga seorang pendekar..jadi moral ceritanya..
How is ever going to educate the likes of you??
Terima kasih Tun..
Dear Ir. Syahrizan,
Constantly arguing that this is a Malay land would only serve to hurt the feelings of the Orang asli,orang Iban and orang Kadazan.
Dear Tun, salam sejahtera harap sihat. Kiriman dan ulasan saya pada satu dua komen dgn izin....
...............SUPPRESSION
Natural law, the majority will dominate the minority (silent discrimination). But suppression by sanction of law to discriminate is another thing (open discrimination e.g NEP).
Discrimination and suppression of minorities by natural forces occurs worldwide (incl S’pore and M’sia) but in M’sia we have the additional state discrimination. That means in S’pore you can challenge the discrimination in court, in M’sia you have no case.
............ART OF NEGOTIATION
We should always be alert in negotiation. It has nothing to do with any race or just with S’pore. Try to be too trusting with Indon?? Malays will be minority to Jawa and Sundan. Refer to konfrontasi, Indon statements against M'sians on immigrants, Ambalat, Manohara.
M'sian embassy had to advise M'sian students in Indon to avoid discussing these issues and to keep to familiar places!! Does this ever happen in S'pore? Cut the racial bashing and S'pore bashing and we can see the wood from the trees.
............DUA KALI LIMA
To the accuser S’pore is Chinese racist state, the echo that comes back is M’sia is a racist Malay state. Is there no end to this racist accusation. First other races in M’sia, now S’pore...
Here a majority race needs to constantly beat the race drum. In M’sia they say the minority is racist, in S’pore they switch to the majority is racist.
On S’pore military spending, with a neighbour who calls you racist and occupier, what do you expect. But another neighbour who landed soldiers on this soil and has burnt M’sian flag, issued warnings, demonstrated against M’sians is being friendly??
..............MENGULAS KOMEN (amir aziz on June 17, 2009 10:05 AM)
>>PSD scholarship breakdown
You misqouted the 68% non bumi figures. Only 20% of PSD scholarship is under meritocracy award (regardless of race).Bal 80 % is under race quota system which is not transparent. Of this 20%, 68% went to non bumi, still 32% bumi. Combine with the 80% allocation, bumi receive 1176, others 924.
Dont forget, only PSD scholarship open to other races. Mara scholarships are strictly for bumi. The scholarship here is much more than PSD!
>>Private sector 'discrimination'?
For private company salaries, you seriously believe there is organized discrimination? A profit oriented company (which must pay tax) would forsake a valuable employee based on his race by paying him less?
It is unthinkable for a private company to keep an employee(for his race) and sustain losses, and give up another (due to his race) who brings him profit. A govt agency or GLC will do it, cos the loss is not theirs, it is the tax payers!! A private company will go bankrupt.
Look at overall employment scenario. For Malay, first choice is govt service (better prospects given the domination) second is private sector. So the less qualified go to private sector (generally)
Look at non Malays, first choice private sector (better prospects, govt dominated by bumi) second choice govt. So the best get in private sector. So in private sector the frontliner (of other races) competes with the second liners (of bumi).
Naturally the bumi will get the poorer salaries and lesser jobs due to this factor. Only the govt can redress this imbalance, dont blame the other races.
Ah, I don't know if these comments are read by the great man, yourself, but, oh whatever.
This is my first time visiting your blog, and I am amazed at the political views you have on my beloved country. I'm 14, but that doesn't really matter, does it? Well, as an observant, curious young grasshopper, I honestly, never took fancy to Malaysian politics. Especially the articles that pop up every front page that go on and on and on about who lost their seat and who successfully wooed their state. (Particularly The Star)
I may be ill-informed about how the opposition and BN fight over Malaysia, but I am certain that one day, these... political brain-wrecking troubles will definitely be causing Malaysia to be fighting against itself. Malaysia is well known for
I understand that there will always be differences between cultures (which makes the world magnificent), but, why is it becoming a cause for war? Skin color? Pfft, I have been raised a proud Chinese-Malaysian. But what difference do I have between the bumiputera citizens? Oh, I don't have Malays for my ancestors.
When I grow up, I want to be a Pharmacist - a human being who wants to help people, to make a difference, just like you. Stories of your past have amazed me, time and time again. Pairing my optimism and perseverance, it is impossible for me to not have faith in myself. My future, I can change. My homeland's future? I can not. Because I'm not in control of Malaysia. I can't do it alone.
"Wake up, sir, there's a crowd cheering for you outside. Oh! there are twenty five million people calling for you!"
It might take time for Malaysia's leaders to hear the magnificent cheers of wondrous patriotism, faith and joy.
Listen carefully sir, do you hear the people?
Salam Buat Yg. Bhg. Tun,
I only have the following for Singaporeans :
1. With one airport and One Port, there are no other ways to plough
back your gain except these two. So is that really a big challenge to overcome?
2. Can you name any of your success without any joint venture and foreign talents? Yes maybe we are lacking but we achieve it on our cwn capacity and proud of it. Can you say the same?
3. Having to resort to NUWATER alone is enough said that taking the saying " Doing Business and S...t At the Same Place" to new level of the lowest of the low.
4. Success? Can you translate value of your success in your daily life? Going back to HDB flat to most of you which from your ST forum indicates that you could hardly afford. Just give yourselves to tight slap on the face for The Foreign Talent are actually getting all the perks since you Singaporeans apparently are not good enough to take up the job.
5. During Tsunami, we would be more than happy to host the Acheh People as our guest. But remember should something happen to your tiny dot (god forbids) due to the unpreditable nature of the earth. Please feel free to excuse yourselves somewherre else, anywhere but HERE. Ada Faham?
Kind regards
salam tun..
(mintak izin)
waja perak.. ko ni kelakarla..
banyak sangat baca komik.. hehehe..tapi bagus..
engko belajar sesuatu yg berguna dari komik2 tuh..
terima kasih jua dari tony wong kerana ko
telah memperkasakan lagi ekonominya di hong kong tuh..
kirim salam sama keluarga kamitake tu..hehehe
engkau ada baca komik wak dojer tak?
Dear Tun,
Of course singapore is much better off, there is no political
party there to cause trouble except that led by LKY and his
family.
And singaporeans are mostly very easily satisfied. They just
need to fed and housed and they will be contented with life.
For a Malaysian that would be totally, and unacceptably miserable.
YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir,
I am thankful to God that when you were leading Malaysia you did not have an economic manipulation and succession plan like Lee Kuan Yew.
I could not imagine living in a country where the prime minister acts like a dictator in ensuring that the economy is controlled by the family members and later on ensure that the son took on the premiership. It's disgusting that singaporean as whole can accept the situation. It's not for them to be blamed I guess, but who would want to be bankrupted for saying against dictatorship may be except a few still alive but most are gone.
So, what's so great about this man from this little red-dot, nothing in substance of democracy that can be proud of. It's democracy alright, but dictator styled in its softest settings.
Lee Kuan Yew's recent tour is nothing more nor any significant in nature. So what?, he has been meeting some political honchos and vvips but he failed to have a meeting with any of our true statesmen and in particular meeting YAB Tun Dr. Mahathir bin Mohamad.
Take care and may you be in the best of health always.
"Some Malaysian officers did suggest this figure but we were ready to bargain and maybe settle for RM3. And why not? Johore sells raw water to Melaka for 30 sen, 1000% higher than to Singapore. And Melaka is, I believe, a part of Malaysia! Some Malaysians may see the irony of this."
First of all, RM3 is not 30 sen. Anyway, I wonder whether Johor should even charge Melaka 1 sen for water. What is the point of joining the Federation then?
ABI,
You just cannot compare the "Little Emperor" Lee Kuan Yew coming from a "small Forbidden City" with our "Great Maharaja" Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad coming from a Great Kingdom. Our "Great Maharaja" is one and only "Great Maharaja" that stands above all others. A very dignified "Maharaja".That's the difference. Make no mistake about it. It is very simple deduction.
Sir,
while you choose to nitpick and insult LKY over his every action and comment, you have forgotten to highlight his achievements during his illustrious career as PM of Singapore.
These are the facts.
At the time when Singapore was formed, Malaysia possessed the largest and most prosperous economy. It was blessed with abundance in natural resources and a large labor force. This made it the envy of every nation in SEA, including Singapore.
however,
within a span of 40 years, Singapore has matured and grown into a prosperous nation, with a per capita income of US$52 000 (as of 2008), far surpassing Malaysia's per capita income of US$15 300 (as of 2008). All these in spite of the huge setbacks posed by Singapore's lack of manpower, land, and natural resources. This is largely due to the fact that we have in place an efficient and far-sighted government. Say what you may about Singapore and its government officials, but the facts speak for themselves.
What about you, Dr Mahathir?
You routinely mention that the Malays in Singapore are being undermined and suppressed. Let me assure you. That is not the case. The Malays in Singapore are given Equal opportunities to succeed and excel. Just last year, the Top PSLE student came from the Malay community. We have also various policies in place to ensure that the Malay population in Singapore is being represented in parliament, for eg. the GRC policy, which states that every GRC (group representation constituencies) must have a minority candidate. The government understands and respects the Malays as the original inhabitants of Singapore, and therefore grants them free primary education.
Malaysia, however, has constantly trodden on the rights of its minority citizens. Tun Abdul Razak launched the controversial "Malaysian New Economic policy", which effectively grants malays residing in Malaysia greater privileges and rights than the other citizens of the country. This policy results in non-malays becoming second-class citizens, hence the instability during the recent Malaysian elections.
If you truly fight for equality, you would have removed this policy during your term in office. You did not.
Dr Mahathir, i speak from an unbiased point of view of the matter. I acknowledge that LKY's methods may be harsh to some extent, but the point is, he has catapulted Singapore onto the world map, bringing much prosperity and stability to the country.
I urge you to relook your comments on our country and government officials and do something more substantial than insult and tarnish our reputation.
-chiahow, Singapore
asalamualaikum...hmmmmmm....nampak gayanye kebanyakkan pemimpin kita belom merdeka lagi....najib cakap berdegar2 tapi gigil kepala lutut bila jumpa lky...angguk ngalahkan burung belatuk dgr kata lky...pak lah ngan najib ni 2x5 5x2......makin lama makin penat balik......letihhhhhhh dapat pm cenggini....siapa lah agaknya penasihat nijib ni yer...rosmah eh....kelam abis lah wawasan 2020 kiter lah yek......hai lah nasib.........ada dr.mahathir taknak minta tunjuk ajar....tapi dah lama kan dlm politik tak kan tak belajar paper pun sikit pun.....hai lah melayu.......
THE BIG TIME SAND TRADE IN S.E.A.
http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1838&Itemid=195
LKY ade visit DSAI ke?
Well not everyone know about what really happen during 1997 economy turmoil.... percaturan "ledger book" hampir membuatkan kita bankrap...
Siapa kah yang menjadi "Si kitol" pada tahun 1997 dan siapa kah yang menjadi "penasihatnya"?
Kita bernasib baik memiliki memanda Bendahara yang baik lagi bijaksana pada masa itu.. yang sedar tanggungjawabnya pada bangsa Malaysia serta dibantu oleh "backroom boys".
Mereka ini tidak perlukan pujian serta sambutan "karpet merah" serta paluan kompang... kepuasan mereka adalah dapat berkhidmat pada bangsa Malaysia serta dapat membantu menjadi bangsa Malaysia satu bangsa yang berjaya dan disegani.
Kita jangan lah berasa rendah diri sangat pada LKY ni. Dia tahu sapa sebenarnye Malaysia ni. "We are the sleeping giant" ataupun mungkin gak kita ni "we are the sleeping dragon". Jadi kalau berbicara tentang Singapore ianya seperti cerita antara China & Chinese Taipe (Chiang Kai-shek). Kita dengan China adalah kawan. Dengan Taiwan? LKY tahu ape yang berlaku pada tempat simpan senjata dia bila sticker Malaysia pada senjata dia. Guest what?
Kita umat Melayu harus sedar, kita memiliki kekuatan tersendiri.. tanpa perlu bergantung kepada "kapitan nanyang" ataupon "little Kingdom" ... Kat nusantara dulu kita ade dekat 10 "Malay Kingdom". So kat mane silap kita?
kita perlu cermin kan diri kita dulu. Jangan layan sangat emosi-emosi yang boleh merosak diri. Kita hanya perlu tingkatkan jati diri kita sendiri dan sedar tanggungjawab diri di atas muka bumi ini disertai dengan perpaduan. Semua kekuatan ini akan timbul dengan sendiri dengan izin Allah. Kita perlu fokus
"Yahudi bangsa yang tersurat di dalam Al Quran, Melayu bangsa yang tersirat..."
Dear Tun,
Have not commented for a while now, but my feelings about this Little Emperor is mutual. Bravo!! I cant wait for more...
The great 5th PM? good riddance.
The new 6th PM? better be careful lest he will be the greatest 6th PM...
ASKUM N GOOD AFTERNOON TUN N ALL READERS.
THIS IS MY THIRD COMMENT ON MR LKY'S VISIT BECAUSE I FEEL COMPELLED TO DRAW ATTENTION OF READERS ESP THE YOUNGER GENERATION WHO SEEMS TO MISS THE POINT ABT THE SIFNIFICANCE OF THESE TWO PERSONALITIES I.E. TUN AND MR LKY. WHETHER WE LIKE/DISLIKE THEM OR SUPPORT/DO NOT NOT SUPPORT THEIR POLICIES AND DECISIONS WHEN THEY WERE IN POWER, THEY REMAIN TO THESE DAYS, LEADERS WHO HAVE BECOME ICONS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.
WE ARE PROUD OF THEM BECAUSE DESPITE THEIR AGE (80+), THEY REMAIN ALERT AND INTELLECTUALY SUPERIOR TO MANY YOUNGER GENERATION LEADERS. AT THIS MOMENT, NO LEADERS WHETHER IN MSIA OR SPORE THAT SUCCEEDED THEM HAVE MANAGED TO RAISE THEIR PERFORMANCE TO THE LEVEL OF THESE TWO GENTLEMEN.
AS I HAVE SAID EARLIER, BY ALLOWING MR LKY TO ACCESS ALL THE KEY PLAYERS IN THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM OF MSIA WITHIN 8 DAYS (A 10-STAR PREMIUM VISIT), SOMETHING WHICH I PERSUMED HE HIMSELF( LKY) DID NOT EXPECT, MR LKY N HIS TEAM CAN EASILY MAKE A PSYCHOLOGICAL PROFILE OF THE CURRENT MSIAN LEADER N HIS CABINET (WHICH UNFORTUNATELY IS NOT FAVOURABLE). IT IS A PLUS FOR SPORE AND A MINUS FOR MSIA.
I DON'T THINK MR LKY HIMSELF OR THE SPORE GOVT WILL OFFER TO RECIPROCATE A SIMILAR 10-STAR TOUR FOR ANY MALAYSIAN LEADER SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE NORMAL ETIQUETTE IN INTERNATIONAL RELATIONSHIP OF COUNTRIES. EVEN US PRESIDENTS ONLY BRING WORLD LEADERS AT MOST TO THE CAMP DAVID RETREAT OR THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT BRING THEM TO HIS DASCHA. NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF COUNTRIES THAT SUCH A 10-STAR PRIVILEGE TREATMENT ARE GIVEN TO FOREIGN DIGNITARIES, HOWEVER HIGH THEIR STANDING ICLUDING VISITING OPPOSITION LEADERS AND ACCORDING A SPECIAL TALK WITH THE WIFE OF THE PM. I JUST WONDER WHERE ARE ALL THE HIGH-LEVEL ADVISERS WHEN THEY ARE NEEDED. TO THEM, I SAY 'RESIGN' BECAUSE THEY LET DOWN THEIR LEADER AND THEIR COUNTRY.
WHAT I FEAR IS THAT THE NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS DO NOT HAVE THE LEADERSHIP TRAITS OF THEIR PREDECESSORS. IN THE CHALLENGING TURBULENT FUTURE THAT THE WORLD IS FACING, CAN WE TRUST THEIR JUDGEMENTS?
Salam Tun,
Semoga Tun berdua sihat dan di panjangkan umur.
1. Saya rasa LKY memang takut dan respect dengan Tun kerana pada saya apa salahnya jumpa dan say hello just for old time sake but dia tak pun nak jumpa . LKY ada inferiority complex towards Tun because dia sedar dia dah jumpa sorang Melayu yang bole face him word to word and maybe he might lose kalau tak betul caranya when dealing with Tun.
2. Malays in Singapore? well saya memang banyak masuk singapore atas urusan kerja. Kat imigresen jumpa la org melayu, ramai plak tu. Lepas tu naik teksi plak, jumpa driver cina selalunya la..., past tu jumpa owner kapal plak , selalunya orang depa la...deal plak dgn machai diorang selalunya melayu la. Dah siap kerja diorang antor balik ke airport. So malays kat singapore kena tindas ? tak tau la nak cakap cuma ader la jumpa seorang ex malay sgpore yang dah jadi rakyat indon , dia cerita memang zaman dia sekolah dulu banyak hak2 org melayu masih di utamakan tapi bila dah masuk 3, 4 generasi those privileges slowly being taken away atas alasan meritocracy so he say how very lucky for malays in malaysia to still have their rights and even told me to guard that with my own life so go figure...
3. Air 3 sen? Hmmm memang ni dah tak leh buat aper la, dah sain agreement kan, so tunggu la 2026 untuk revise.
4. Iskandar? bagus project tu tapi selit la skali orang2 kita. kalau setakat jadi kuli make sure kuli yang betul2 di bayar tinggi gajinya . Jangan setakat main sebat jer.
5. Dah la Tun...to me LKY is nothing compare tu Tun Dr Mahathir!!!!!!!!!!!
Salam.
Selamat petang Tun,
Whatever it is, it must be based on one's merit.
Never ever picked due to skin color,blood,descendant, nor the status of 'ama apa'.
It will create a downfall of the country.
Get a qualified person with quality, integrity, -the best.
Early Islamisation Of China....
http://wayangparty.com/?p=10273
Assalamu Alaikum Tun,
I just want to give my response to a comments posted upholdjustice, patrick218 and JB_From. My conclusion from their comments is "better you all back to school" and learn how behave as Malaysian. If you cannot accept our education system, then suggest you migrate to Singapore or other countries and learn how the people treat you there. I you feel you survive and get better threatment these countries, I advise you to apply for these countries citizenship. But if you feel our country is still better, then I advise to return home and learn how to be a grateful Malaysian and together with other races to build our country. You get me?
Salam Tun...
Regarding to the 'divorced' by Tunku Abdul Rahman to Lee Kuan Yew that seperated Singapore from Malaysia and brought LKY cried to face bringing up Singapore alone without help from Malaysia. One think about chinese is they always wanted for revenge. Whatever LKY plan to in his one week trip to Malaysia, should be consider as dangerous threats to Malaysia.
The oppositions leaders are being used by LKY and so the Government as well. I might say that the Government as the body who works need a brain and guide like a brain of yours. I am sure that some 'jobs' can be created to fill you as the brain in the government as we know that talking without power is pointless than power without talking.
I am one of your fan in the way you plan and think for yourself and other as well. I can't deny the fact that you are getting old and I think that you should play different methods here to make our citizen realize how to manage our country efficiently.. Some of methods need to be tough or cruel sometimes but it's for greater goods.
Our youngster now didn't realize and easily influence by the surrounding without looking at their history and making decision for their future. My life begin with UMNO and will end with UMNO. I remembered my late father always said that when our family involve in any problems, we don't abonden our family and find a new one but we overcome the problems in our family and being better then we are today.
There are not many people that our country can count on these day but you are one of those people that will heal the wound and makes our people walking tall once again.
May Allah Bless You
Thank You...
GREED AND EXPLOITATION
http://pseudonymity.wordpress.com/2008/01/08/15-mar-08-a-rally-as-part-of-campaign-against-paps-greed-and-exploitation-of-singaporeans/
I'm a neutral party to this, but i thought to be objective in dealing with the facts with regard to the water issue. to state that spore is benefiting by the 3 sen per 1000 gallon sale is only one side of the fuller picture.
take a read at the url link i have tagged along. it was an ISEAS report in 2003. scroll down to pp 19. let me extract it here. it claimed that the Johore state govt has been profiting RM50 million (2002) out of this whole water deal. Perhaps this explain why in the 80s, the govt did not want to review the price tag. the official answer given then was 'financial crisis'. its hard to resist not linking these two issues together.
"Singapore buys water from Johor at RM 0.03 sen/4.546 m3 (RM 0.03 sen/1000 gallons). It sells
treated water to Johor at RM 0.50/4.546 m3 (RM 0.50/1000 gallons), although treatment costs
Singapore RM 2.40/4.546 m3. Effectively, Singapore is subsidising Johor at a rate of RM
1.90/4.546 m3. Table 5 provides the volume of water sold to Johor in selected years.
Johor presently purchases around 8.14 million m3 (37 million gallons) of water from Singapore
daily and sells this at RM 3.95/4.546m3 to its consumers (The Straits Times, 28 January 2002).
Year Volume
1975 21,341.70
1980 39,841.50
1985 56,735.20
1990 51,424.50
1995 65,501.30
2000 50,600.30
Singapore, however, is only legally obliged to sell 3.74 million m3 (17 million gallons) daily to
Johor although it has been providing over twice this amount to the state (excess amounting to 20
million gallons per day). Hence, Singapore has been providing a subsidy of RM 29 million to
Johor by selling treated water at the rate of RM 0.50/4.546 m3 (Kog, 2001: 18).
Johor is, however, reportedly suffering losses to the tune of RM 3.2 million (S $1.5 million) per
year by buying treated water from Singapore (The Straits Times, 5 February 2002a). This issue
was brought up again in November (The Straits Times, 13 November 2002) by the Johor
Assembly which this time alleged that Singapore has raked up around S$ 700 million by
purchasing raw water from the state over a period of forty years.
However, based on the stated costs of providing treated water in Malaysia by Long (2001),
Johor has stood to gain by continuing to purchase water at the subsidised rate of RM 0.50/4.546m3 from Singapore. Long (2001: 522) cites a figure of RM 6.86 per 4.546 m3 as costs if the
Johor government were to process water domestically.19 The Johor government therefore saves
RM 6.16 per 4.546 m3 of water, as it only pays Singapore RM 0.50 for an equivalent amount.
In addition, back-of-the-envelope calculations reveal that Johor derives over RM 50 million
from the present arrangement of buying treated water from Singapore at RM 0.50/4.546 m3 (RM
0.50/1000 gallons) and reselling at RM 3.95/4.546m3 (RM 3.95/1000 gallons). Based on the
calculations undertaken in Table 6, it is difficult to support the contention that Johor has been
losing money by buying treated water from Singapore.20"
I'd always opt not to feedback on other viewers' comment, but forgive me that this time I really can't stand of not correcting Romeo.Phang's statement.
Dear Romeo.phang,
Forgive me, but with repsect, I really cannot recall when did Singapore achieve the 'modern country' status, as you claimed. Pardon me should my stand is incorrect, but really, it did not only annoy me but somewhat amuse me with the 'yucks' feeling reading your misleading comment/stand.
Sorry.
Rgds,
Adan
A FATHER'S THOUGHTS.....
http://goingback.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/a-nations-birthday-and-my-disenchantment/
Dengan izin Tun..Terimakasih..
?Upholdyourjustice/shadeartashade/zharif/DjSanjeevKumar/Apogee/ romeo.phang/zaq25/Collin Ng/kt64/Tua Yaacob/Kassim Mohd/ Mohd Hussain/ Jalapeno / dkkl / qwertyuiop / tuffy / md.othman / Codfather / pengful / sesquipedalian / LimLaoBei / abdulrahman /
Greeting sluggers..
1)I had just visit Barack Obama blog and found out that he did not have visitor's monitored in his blog.Why?..I guess he is down to earth man and do not have ego to boast that my blog have been browsed by 20,000,000 people.I repeat 20,000,000..
So..It puzzles me greatly why Lee Kuan Yew and Goh Chock Tong blog is always unavailable..?
PAGE NOT FOUND... is it a trick of them not to share thought's and comment and very importantly critics and condenmnation??
Hmmm...can I bite this food for thought??
2)How are big man measured?..I searched the Internet and again I found that Lee Kuan Yew are not among the dignified speaker that gives speech at London the other day's where the VVIP's all over the world was invited to give their point of view regarding the world economic crisis.
Tun Dr. Mahatahir from Malaysia was given the standing ovation for a duration of few ? second? minutes? by all the dignitaries..Now..the question is why and just why
somebody removed Lee Kuan Yew contribution in the world matters and let Tun Mahathir contribution's stand..This is ridiculous!!
0F COURSE LEE KUAN YEW HAVE BEEN INVITED ALL OVER THE WORLD TO GIVE HIS TIP ON EVERYTHING THAT MATTER'S TO THE WORLD...AND OF COURSE HE HAVE BEEN GIVEN STANDING OVATION AFTER THE SPEECHES MORE THAN TUN MAHATHIR DID..30 MINUTES MAYBE???
Why..oh why..Lee Kuan Yew contributions not highlighted and Goh Chock Tong too?
Somebody believes that Lee Kuan Yew turn Singapore Economy around..by kow towing to the Israel and American..
Singaporean...Wake up..In Malaysia we call's this handing over our sovereignity..You can call them protectorate but do you realizes that by doing this, Lee Kuan Yew sold you all to the Israel and American??
Yeah..yeah..look and believes it from any angle that you like but
There is no fool like and old fool and I thought you Singaporean are smart enough..
Sigh...
3.How does we know we are not a free man? Have you been checking any electronic devices on your body...What?..Are you sure there is none and Singaporean Government just let you go anywhere you please all over Malaysia without any surveillance device's and tracking monitor..?
If this is so then why are so joyful the moment you are on our soil, doing every whim and fancy that not available in Singa pora pora?..And you dread it very much to come home like beaten puppy with their tails between their legs??..
4.I could go on but I am waiting for smart asses opps sorry..smart aleck like you to slug it out with me..
5.I just warming up my GPMG..I still got many more arsenal for you like M302,RPG and Bazooka to slug each other out...Come on and make Tun blog lively..Of course it is impossible for you to counter my very points...
Thank you very much Tun..
Tun
I always believe there is a time for a man,.... past that time he should keep quiet, or being perceived as being demented.
The High Cost Of Maintaining SIN's Rulers....
PAY AND PAY....
http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-relentless-rising-cost-of-living-in-singapore/
Salam TUN,
To Zag25.
You can redeem yourself by writting your own memoir on how you pour
scorns on successful peoples.
If the sales of your memoir meletup,then keep on commenting to glory
or else keep your foul breathe and perceptions to yourself.
There is another choice,try selling it to the Martians
With reference to the recently concluded visit to Malaysia by Singaporean Minister Mentor Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, our former Prime Minister Tun Dr. Mahatir, gave an interesting interpretation of the phrase Middle Kingdom --- a popular term in reference to China or things Chinese, both ancient and modern. He gave the distinct impression that “Middle” was equivalent to “Centre”, thus having the implied meaning of centripetal or centrifugal force or simply being dominant centre (中心).
Historically and (perhaps more importantly), philosophically speaking, the word “Middle” actually refers to “Harmony” or “Not Lacking or In Excess” or “Balance” or “Middle-Path” (中庸).
This is well and amply illustrated by the concept / philosophy of Ying-Yang in the famous Book of Change (Yi-jing), Tao-Te-Jing (Taoism), Confucianism (Middle-Path Way) and Chinese Medicine (Balance of Hot-Cold). In fact, the very essence of the “Chinese-ness” is this very “Middle-ness”.
Unfortunately, this correct interpretation of “Middle” is not well understood even by many Chinese mainlanders when asked what “Chinese Medicine” is. It is not “Medicine practiced by the Chinese”. Rather, it is “Medicine of the Balance of Ying-Yang or Harmony or Medicine of the Middle-Path or Balance”.
The world will suddenly / certainly be a better and safer place to live if everyone (certainly including China / Chinese) interpreted “Middle” as “Harmony” (中庸) rather than “Centre” (中心).
This is also the spirit of the SOHO Technology 3.0 approach.
I feel I cannot help but comment on thinktok's reply on June 17, 2009 5:56 PM. Basically he has not analysed the situation correctly and blames you Tun when he doesn't even know what the facts are!
Here are thinktok's statements and my explanation as to why they are false:
thinktok : [He steered Malaysia into the financial crisis and he steered Malaysia out of the financial crisis by pegging the ringgit to the US dollar. Many Singaporeans lost money having fixed deposit account in Malaysian ringgit. He is always trying to fix Singapore.]
ezani : Tun's decision to peg the ringgit to the US dollar has got nothing to do with fixing Singapore. Tun did not even have S'pore in mind when he made the decision. I believe Tun thought that was the best decision to turn M'sia around. If Singaporeans suffered, that was an unfortunate side-effect.
thinktok : [He will not hesitate to demolish Anwar Ibrahim and Abdullah Badawi. Under his PM the IGP punched a prisoner.]
ezani : Anwar was kicked out after somebody brought up a complaint about unnatural sex and after that a lot of turmoil occurred. It was Tun that brought Anwar up to through the political ranks when he was a nobody in ABIM. thinktok, you should know your facts before opening your mouth.
As for Abdullah, I think Tun has already stated earlier in one of his early blogs that even though AAB appeared to plot against him, Tun did not vindicate him and allowed AAB to continue to play main role in mainstream politics. Don't you even realise that it was Tun that chose Abdullah to succeed him ? So...thinktok, you should know your facts before opening your mouth.
[Under his PM the IGP punched a prisoner.]
My goodness..thinktok. You are blaming Mahathir because the IGP punched Anwar ? You must be really stupid. You think the IGP punched Anwar because Mahathir asked him to do so ? You must be really stupid.
thinktok : [Malaysia and Singapore have much to gain by co-operation. Not buying MIGs to bomb Singapore!]
Ezani : Again you are really stupid because you accuse Malaysia of buying MIG fighter planes just to bomb Singapore. Tell me..where is the war then ? Do you see a war taking place ?
To Leo June 17, I think you should think before you talk. Probably Mahathir has had far more experience in dealing with Singapore and probably he has gone through many things with Singapore leaders to realise who they actually are compared to you. Do you really think Singapore want to have sincere, fair cooperation and agreements with Malaysia ? Yes or no ? If yes, why are they buying water from us at 3 sen and are happy to continue to do so?
And I would have to agree totally with Shafinaz Jun 17 too. I am really worried about this Najib trying to be a clever boy asking LKY and the Singaporeans too come into Iskandariah, Johor and also spending lots of money to visit China. He hasn't felt the bite of Singapore like you, Tun. If something happens, make sure ha pays for it. As Shafinaz says, we must be VERY, VERY careful when dealing with S'pore. Ni Najib...baru nak panaskan kerusi menjadi PM, dah buat macam he and LKY are best buddies!
The biggest danger we must protect against .. and I cannot put it at a higher priority ... is that we must not let the Singaporeans capitalize and make a huge profit in the development of Iskandariah, Johor to our detriment. Why we cannot keep the development of Johor's vast undeveloped land to ourselves and our local contractorss ? Why must membabitkan Abu Dhabi Investment Bank or Riyadh or Al-Rajhi or the Singaporeans or other foreigners ? We cannot develop ourselves ka ? If so, then we truly deserve to lose this land to foreigners !!! Najib and AAB never learn !!!
To the real issue at hand and my final conclusion is : BERSABAR SAJE LAH ! TAHUN 2016 TU TAK LAMA LAGI ... SEKARANG DAH PUN 2009 ... HANYA TUJUH TAHUN JE .. BILA CONTRACT LUPUT, YOU CAN DO A COMPENSATING CONTRACT TO MAKE FOR THE LOSSES OF THE PAST !!! SINGAPORE HAS NO CHOICE ... THEY NEED THE WATER. IF SINGAPORE IS CLEVER, THEY WOULD HAVE PUT IN PLACE WATER DISTILLATION FACTORIES BEFORE THIS CONTRACT ENDS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEPEND ON SINGAPORE FOR WATER. THEY KNOW 2016 IS JUST SEVEN YEARS AWAY AND THEY KNOW THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE ARROGANT !!!
Last but not least, I would like to comment on Empress on June 18, 2009 3:52 AM :
[Was China truly an advanced nation at one time under the emperors and dynastys? The below website would help to ponder!]
What Empress said is true. China (and Japan and Korea for that matter) were nothing but a land of wooden palaces and bare earth not so long ago and look at what a rapid, wonderful and total transformation happened in Japan many years ago (and Korea later) and now, in China ! The unity of the people and their loyalty, obedience and discipline to their leaders are unparalleled in any part of the world including US, Europe and Malaysia also cannot beat them. Look at the support the football fans from Japan or Korea give to their national football team when they play the world cup even on the other side of the world ! That is just sports ! What about nation building ? This is why Japan has acheived so much in such a short time (but also at a high price such as land and personal space). Do you think we can be like them (or wanna be like them) ? We can take a moderate approach and not be radical like them but we can certainly work harder and improve on your complacency and our laziness and stop quarelling among ourselves !!!
LKY made Singapore into a AAA rated country, with a percapita income 5 times that of Bolehland. Singapore has reserves 4 times that of Bolehland. Shame on UMNO and all of UMNO's leaders including Dr M. If this is not corruption, then it is incompetence. Take your pick.
No need to be jealous of our rich, prosperous and safe neighbour. When our oil revenues run out in 2013, when the subsidies on essential goods like cooking oil, flour and sugar are removed in 2010, let's see what the rakyat will say. Jealousy will not be able to get these good old days back.
Dear All,
Singapore is a very small island country. Although it has no natural resources, it is relatively a very small piece of land and easy to maintain. To balance this lack of natural resources and space, we have to see it another way, British had been occupying Singapore even before Malaya independence. Hence, the Empire has provided proper infrastructure to Singapore and plus it is a well known trade port since the days of the Malay Sultanate.
Furthermore, the favoritism (split and rule concept) that British has instill since its colonial days; the Chinese immigrants and Indians immigrants were given jobs and educations opportunity (Sounds like NEP for them eh?) and meanwhile the indigenous Malays are left out rotten in the woods. Since the 15th Century, the Malays were strip off from their rights, power and freedom by these colonial figures (Dutch, Portuguese, British and Japanese). So after 500 years of “Silent Oppression” the Malays has enough of this and the climax of this rebellion (or should I say freedom fighter) has given British no choice but to allow Tanah Melayu (Malay Peninsular) become independent in 1957. Singapore, together with Sabah and Sarawak joined the Malay Federation in 1963 to formed Malaysia.
So everything was already laid out for Singapore when Lee Kuan Yew took it over, prior to its breakup with Malaysia in 1965 (just short 2 years after its merge with Malaysia). Singapore with very limited resources has to resolve its country-building issues by aligning itself with Israel. Israel, a newly formed illegal Jewish-state of that time, builds up its regime from the occupied lands of the Palestine, provides Singapore aka Lee Kuan Yew the necessary ingredient to bring up Singapore into an economic powerhouse as we witness today. But it comes with a price, hiding under the banner of democracy and freedom, Lee Kuan Yew, systematically wipe out the Singaporean Malays of their rights and belief system (Islam) which he sees as the main obstacle. Rather than compromising and integrating with local indigenous Malays, he instead uses the power of capitalism (the mighty wand of Jew) to catapult the Chinese Singapore into the modern age and left out the Malays (or should I say deliberately held back the Malays). They were very few opposition parties that try to fight off Lee Kuan Yew’s unfair policy, amongst them is the late Jayakumar. The first and sole opposition which managed to secure a parliament seat in Singapore government. Unfortunately, the late Jayakumar was “politically killed” by Lee Kuan Yew with his vast influence and power, and left to die with debts amounting from multiple suits from Lee Kuan Yew’s government.
Recently, the master of deception and trickster aka Little Emperor, coming to Malaysia and telling us what to do and what not to do. We should have banned Lee Kuan Yew to enter Malaysia and labeled him equivalent to Chin Peng. Lee Kuan Yew and his ideas are contagious to the harmony and stability of Malaysia. This info will need to be spread amongst Malaysian as a future warning of what might come. We will not bow to the demands by the immigrant descendants. If you think Singapore is great, we would gladly pull off your Malaysian citizenship and ship you back to where you come from. I recommend the government to rather throwing this ungrateful people into ISA lock-up, they should be dismissed off from Malaysia permanently and citizenship taken back.
You don’t see a Malay leader in China cause it is the land where Chinese originate, you don’t see a Malay leader in India cause it is the land where Indians originate but you do see Malay, Chinese and Indian leaders in Malaysia although it is a Malay land. This shows that the Malays are compromising people. And yet, you ungrateful morons are greedy and selfish and wanted more. Do not test our patience; we will fight back if provoked.
Dear Tun and friends,
I kind of like JJJ, he is a funny guy.
Yes, I don't live in Singapore. My close buddy told me that. They have a choice to use public transportation in stead of buying a car because it's efficient.
Transportation expenses: S$ 200 a month for a family of 4. The figure is correct. He is an civil engineer making S$ 5000 there.
You would die in Singapore if you are poor. You cannot live in KL if you are not rich enough either.
Regards
Dear all,
Anybody knew how many malays fighter pilots in Singapore Airforce?
Anybody?
salam Tun,
TDM - doctor by profession ; "heal! heal!recuperate!
(case in point ; the '97 financial crisis )
LKY - Lawyer by training ; "I'll sue!See you in court!Make sure you're bankrupt!
(one of the cases in point as there are many ; Worker's Party late JP Jeyaratnam)"
LKY cannot hold a candle to TDM.
Jeng3
Your infantile tantrums is getting old and boring. When are you ever, ever, ever going to stop bashing Singapore. Are you still pissed off about being equated to a driver's friend when you visited a Chinese friend in Singapore during your school days? It's old news Dr.M. Get over it!!! A mistake was made a long time ago and do let it go for your own health's sake. It's eating you up inside out and blinding you with hatred.
Then again, is it because MM LKY upstaged and outperformed you in the world's theater. Every developed country welcomes him and listen to his speeches and advise while you are only a insignificant voice in some third world countries.
Maybe you can't stand it when Singapore GNP and standard of living is first world while you are stuck in third world status.
No, it's just business with Singapore. Nothing personal. Singapore has grown up with semangat yang baru while Malaysia is still sucking on it's thumb. Singapore is doing everything it can to compete and better itself in the world and let it be that some short sighted person like you see it as the "Middle Kingdom" or some other terms.
You were outmaneuvered in every turn and corner when you were in power by Singapore and still carries sour grapes.
Majullah Singapura.
TUN.
Izinkan.
By MalayJessyJames on June 17, 2009 3:04 PM
"Si Kitol In Modern Age"
Saya setuju dan suka tulisan anda. teruskan usaha untuk memberi nasihat dan kesedaran pada saudara2 kita yang mudah lupa dan sengaja buat2 lupa.
Melayu sekarang berada di hujung jalan yang bersimpang. Tak tahu nak beluk kiri atau kanan.
Kekeliruan dan diperbodoh2kan oleh pemimpin2 yang tak bertanggung jawab. Yang hanya untuk mencari kepuasan nafsu dan kepengtingan diri sendiri.
Siapa lah si Kitol ini didalam negara kita sekarang. Dan siapa lah boleh di tafsirkan sebagai Bendahara Mandaliar itu. Apa yang jelas mereka berdua ini seperti sorang To guru tu...dan sorang lagi macam si Anu tu....
Biarlah bumi dan bangsa tergadai asalakan "Hmm...Puas hati aku" Gitu lah yang ada di hati mereka2 ini agak nya.
Maaf ler.... sekadar melihat yang tersirat dan tersurat.
Kisah si Kitol dan Bendahara Mandaliar ini hanya boleh di ketahui kesah nya jika kita belajar sejarah. Rasa nya anak2 muda sekarang ada yang tak pernah dengar pun nama2 ini.
In Chinese Custom We Should Never Criticise Our HOSTS !
http://wherebearsroamfree.blogspot.com/2009/06/old-mans-mouth-speaks-faster-than-his.html
Was China truly an advanced nation at one time under the emperors and dynastys? The below website would help to ponder!
http://edsperience.vox.com/library/post/50-years-of-pap---the-relative-greatness-of-ancient-china-why-mahathir-is-wrong.html
Assalamualaikum Tun Yang Amat Dihormati,
1.Pada pendapat saya,apa yang tersirat daripada penulisan Tun adalah negara kita terutamanya pemimpin harus berhati-hati menerima 'tetamu'daripada luar terutamanya yang mempunyai ikatan kuat dengan Yahudi dan pihak barat(terutamanya Amerika).
2.Memandangkan Singapura adalah negara perdagangan yang mempunyai rangkaian perdagangan yang besar dengan negara barat terutamanya,sudah tentu negara itu terjejas teruk akibat kemelesetan ekonomi sekarang.Lawatannya ke sini bukan lawatan biasa ,beliau mencari peluang yang boleh memberi manfaat kepada ekonomi negaranya,beliau juga seperti berminat untuk mengetahui situasi politik di Malaysia.Tidak salah,tetapi memandangkan beliau juga adalah bekas warganegara Malaysia,dan Singapura adalah sebahagian daripada Malaysia dahulu,mahu atau tidak kerajaan negara ini perlu berwaspada.Sekira boleh mereka ingin mengatasi Malaysia dalam apa-apa bidang sekalipun.
3.Pada pandangan saya,persaingan itu sihat,tetapi beliau merasa tidak senang apabila Malaysia berada di landasan kecemerlangan sewaktu Tun menjadi PM dahulu.Tun tegas apabila berdepan dengan hal kedaulatan negara.Saya masih ingat,beliau berkata tidak mudah 'dealing'dengan Tun,dulu.Sememangnya dalam menjaga kedaulatan dan kepentingan negara kita tidak boleh terlalu tunduk kepada negara tertentu yang akan merugikan negara dan rakyat dalam jangka panjang kelak.Malaysia adalah negara merdeka,kita boleh berlajar pekara yang baik daripada mereka tetapi bagaimana hendak mentadbir negara....sorry.Kita ada 'acuan'kita sendiri.
4.Pada pandangan saya,beliau mencari peluang apa yang boleh 'diraih'
peluang dari negara ini untuk 'survival' negaranya mungkin untuk jangkamasa 50-70 tahun lagi.LKY bagi saya juga seorang pemikir yang hebat seperti Tun.Hanya Tun Dan LKY antara pemimpin yang masih hidup tahu apa yang berlaku dan maksud tersirat dan tersurat antara dua negara yang hebat ini.Tetapi kalau ditanya kepada saya yang lahirkan di Johor baharu dan dibesarkan di Singapura pada awal 70-an,saya seperti mereka yang lain tiada masalah dengan penduduknya,hanya ada perasaan berhati-hati dengan pihak kepimpinan dan pentadbiran kerajaan Singapura(hasil daripada tidaktanduk kerajaan negara itu semenjak berpisah daripada Malaysia hingga sekarang-dimana LKY selalu disebalik takbir),terutamanya perluasan dan penambakan kawasan negara itu.
5.Kepentigan negara ini nampak 'goyah' di bawah siapa lagi kalau bukan PM ke-5.Semasa Tun menjadi Pm rakyat merasa selesa(tak payah tanya pembangkang dan mereka yang tahu merungut....tahu dah jawapan standard mereka).Kerana kami yakin dengan Tun,kerana Tun
pandai'bawa diri'dan 'No monkey business'bila berhadapan dengan kedaulatan dan maruah negara.
6.Saya berserah kepada kebijaksanaan kepimpinan yang ada.Harapan kami rakyat Malaysia supaya DSNTR, TOLONG teliti dan mendapat nasihat yang betul dalam membuat apa-apa keputusan yang melibatkan kepentingan negara dan rakyat.
7.Masih menaruh harapan jambatan(jambatan bengkok) menggantikan tambak Johor manjadi realiti,jambatan ketiga tidak perlu.Selesaikan masalah rakyat(negara ini) dahulu seperti kesesakan lalu lintas di Tambak Johor.
Semoga Tun Sentiasa berada dalam keadaan sihat dan dilindungi Allah.
AYUH,BERSATU HATI RAKYAT SEMUA UNTUK KESEJAHTERAAN NEGARA TERCINTA,MALAYSIA.WE LOVE YOU, TUN.
P.S:Kepada Puan HBT yang dihormati,
Pada pendapat saya,apa kata buat masa ini Puan tidak payah layan Si Ravi yang berlagak hero,tu.Oleh kerana komennya selalu 'dilepaskan',maka menjadi-jadilah perangainya....macam siapa ye....oh ye,macam seorang Yb yang jadi'sasau'dalam parlimen tiga hari sudah, tu.Tapi nak buat macam manakan.., dah kena sindrom ni,
orang macam Si Ravi ni mana tahu nak beradap bila ke 'rumah'orang.
Kepada Lim lao bei:Tun 'sour grape'??'Sour grape'kan bagus sebagai penawar kepada rasa 'meloyakan'menutraelkan pemikiran seperti kamu!!
To All Singaporean and Singapore Supporters,
Please wake up! LKY never relinquish his POWER until today.
Do you know why? He never trust anyone of you except his family.
That is why he got the title "Little Emperor".
There's no one in Singapore who is good enough to hold important key positions.
If there is, it is just a breathing puppet.
Malaysian regardless of race, better wake up too.
There is no such thing as 'helping your neighbour' in Singapore dictionary or a win-win situation.
Please read history. It tells everything.
Lee Makan You
Hi Sir,
I am not writing to defend my ex Prime Minister MM Lee because I am not a fan of his and never will be. But that's another story....I just feel compelled to write as your article display the exact nit picking and small-frame-against-big-picture mentality that seems to elude many Malays. Race is just a combo of our biological state and I worry for the Malaysians in general if political leaders seems hung up on the color of their skin in order to dictate them wealth, success and status in the society.
I am a Singaporean Malay if described by the general census. I am so glad that my ID states Javanese as my race, just so that I can get away from the stigma that comes with being the stereotypical Malays. But the brutal truth is, if the Singaporean Malays are not somewhere up there in the corporate ladder or the top of some ministry, it simply boils that in certain quarters, the Singaporean Malays are simply not good enough. There are many outstanding Malay individuals in my country, each excelling in their own field. If there are grouses about the lack of Malays in some quarters of our government, it simply means another better non-Malay is fulfilling that job.
Its not about just giving out to any MALAYS to do any jobs. Its about giving to a GOOD Malay, if and when there are any, to do that job. Case in point is Malaysia's Yasmin Ahmad's involvement with the Singapore government advertising campaign. Malay? Checked. Malaysian? Double checked.
Salam Tun,
Looks like orang Melayu di Malaysia seakan akan mengizinkan kaum lain mengiyakan hasrat mereka menjadikan Malaysia menjadi sebuah republik. Kaum lain sekarang bersatu dibawah naungan parti ... sebagai landasan untuk mencapai cita cita mereka sedangkan Melayu berpecah belah. I am not a Malaysian nor Singaporean Malay but I am praying that Melayu bersatu lah demi bangsa dan negara......Singapore secara bertulis mengakui Melayu adalah indegineous people. Hargai lah hak orang Melayu, invest in knowledge dan amalkan lah ajaran Islam demi mengecapi kejayaan sebenar.......kemajuan tiada bererti if maruah melayu tergadai di negeri sendiri.
Dear Tun,
Please do not commit fraticide by shooting off your own friends and counterparts. You seem to have a penchant for finding quarrels over negligble matters. Apparently you have never heard of the English idiom, "make friends, not enemies" before, Doctor. (Please remember that you got your degree in King Edward VII Medical College, Singapore
1: You pick fights with Lee Kuan Yew.
2: You pick fights with Pak Lah (Abdullah Badawi).
3: You manage to split UMNO up into rival factions.
Is this for the good of Malaysia?
Please enlighten me here, Che Det. What is the point of making personal attacks and criticisms on indivduals or other sovereign states? To forge bilateral relations to improve terms of trade? Is this for the good of Malaysia, again? Or is it just a personal grudge which remains perenially?
I have wondered why you have chosen to voice your comments and ideologies from the sidelines instead of taking the helm. Why rule by proxy when you don't have absolute power? It would also be more constructive to sound workable solutions and policies instead of mindless and baseless criticisms, with all due respect. Somehow, it seems that you have also kept the age-old tradition of splitting Malaysia along communal lines by insinuating that us Malays will lose out in the development of the Iskandar region.
It appears that you are severely outdated. We, the modern-age and young Malays, are more than able to maintain our standing amongst other races (such as obtaining a high proficiency in English), thank you very much for your concerns. What we need is racial harmony, not racial segregation, so please stop hinting that we are losing out in everything and belittling us in every way.
Malaysia does not owe Singapore anything. If so, why are our leaders (you included, with all due respect) even entering into bilateral relations with Singapore, even though you criticise Singapore for viewing Malaysia as its hinterland? Surely, according to the economic framework of comparative advantage, trade is always mutually beneficial to both parties. We would prefer both Malaysia and Singapore to grow rich, instead of both remaining poor. As for the 3 sen per 1000 gallons of water, I am surprised that Che Det remains ignorant of the contract signed in the 1960s stipulating such a price, conveniently leaving out the details. It is just too bad that the contract was inked and signed at that time, with such unfavourable terms for us. With all your astuteness and sagacity, I would have hoped that you could pick new topics of contention with Singapore instead of relying on the water issue, which is what, 50 years old?
Just what grudge do you have against Singapore? You have been the Prime Minster of Malaysia for 22 long years, and surely most of the credit of Malaysia's development over the eras, from aeons ago, must go to you. However, Malaysia seems to be lagging behind Singapore further and further. Why is this so, when Malaysia has greater manpower resources and a panoply of natural resources, unlike Singapore? Should we question our leaders on the success (or lack thereof) of Malaysia in recent years, or should we place the blame on Singapore again?
By portraying Lee Kuan Yew as an Emperor controlling global issues, it seems that you relished being a figure on the world stage and you are residing in nostalgy, reminiscencing about the past when you were all-important. With all due respect, since you have given up your post as Prime Minster of Malaysia voluntarily, please give your successors a chance to rule. It hardly seems to be for the good of both Malaysia and UMNO when you voice criticisms of your own party members. Please be mindful that Anwar Ibrahim is waiting in the wings in case of a political failure.
I hope you would understand that it may be better to teach youths about the value of bilateral relations and friendships since they are certainly useful, instead of teaching them how to criticise without any legitimate basis.
Thank you, Tun
The writer is a 17 year old Malay student residing in Johor. Please do not be amazed by his use of lexicons, or look up their definitions in a dictionary.
LKY FINDS THE TUN STILL STRONG !
http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1936&Itemid=181
NO POINT TALKING ABT THIS 3 SEN STORY. DAMAGE IS ALREDY DONE LING TIME BACK. MALAYSIA SHOULD BE SMART ENOUGH TO REDUCE THE FLOW INTO SINGAPORE. THE ONLY WAY TO REDUCE THE FLOW INTO SINGAPORE IS TO SUPPLY ELSEWHERE THE WATER. I AM SURE THERE IS NOTHING WRITTEN IN THE AGREEMENT ON THE VOLUME OF WATER WE SHOULD SUPPLY TO SINGAPORE. CONSIDERING WE ARE ALREADY LOSING MIGHT AS WELL REDUCE OUR DAMAGE.
ANYWAY AS FOR THE MINITORY EFFECT..HAHAHA..NO NEED TO GO TO SINGAPORE YOU CAN DO IT IN MALAYSIA AS WELL...IF YOU DON;T KNOW WHO ARE THE MINORITIES TRY INDIANS
Tun,
Saya menyanjung sumbangan Tun kepada Malaysia, kalau lah Tun mempunyai perasaan kejam dan memerintah secara kuku besi seperti LKY sudah tentu Malaysia lebih maju dari keadaan sekarang tetapi selama 20 tahun Tun memerintah Tun terlalu lembut dan sentiasa bertolak ansur. Saya tidak pasti sama ada menjadi Melayu yang tidak berada di dalam kelas elit bermaksud menjadi warga negara kelas ke 2 itu lebih baik atau pun 13 Mei ke 2 itu lebih baik. Saya berterima kasih kerana ketika pemerintahan Tun banyak peluang diberikan kepada anak Melayu dan saya merasakan bahawa saya bernasib baik membesar ketika dizaman pemerintahan Tun dan menjadikan saya sgt yakin utk bersaing dimana mana jua. Saya tidak benci kepada mana mana pihak tapi saya sangat berharap supaya 13 Mei itu berulang kembali, mungkin kah setiap 30 tahun kita memerlukan "reset" supaya kita menjadi lebih baik? Mungkinkah kematian bebrapa ribu orang didalam rusuhan itu boleh menjadikan Malaysia lebih melonjak maju? Mungkinkah kemerdekaan secara damai itu kesilapan? Satu yang pasti pemberian warganegara secara membabi buta pada awal penubuhan Tanah Melayu (Malaysia) adalah satu jenayah dan perlu diperbetulkan.
SALAM AYAHANDA RAKYAT TUN
IZINKAN,
By SesquipedalianAuthor Profile Page on June 17, 2009 3:10 PM
YOU BELIEVE 'UNCLE LEE' CAN GOVERN A COUNTRY LIKE MALAYSIA WITH A MALAY/MUSLIM MAJORITY?...BULLS... UNLESS ALL THE MELAYU MALAYSIA HAVE LOST THEIR WAY TO THE MOSQUES..PERHAPS.
AND YOU BELIEVE 'UNCLE LEE' WILL ALLOW MULTIPLE OPPOSITIONS IF HE WAS TO RULE?..A BIGGER BULLS...
IF YOU'RE A 'LINGAMPOOP' MALAYSIAN BY ALL MEANS GO FIND YOUR KEEPS ACROSS THE CAUSEWAY. OTHERWISE, PLEASE BE APPRECIATIVE AND THANKFUL FOR ALL THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY THAT OUR GREATEST MALAY LEADER HAD PROVIDED.
By bulanAuthor Profile Page on June 17, 2009 2:46 PM
A VERY DOWN TO EARTH POSTING.. FAIR AND JUST, THANK YOU
MAY THE ALMIGHTY BLESS ALL GOOD CITIZENS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CAUSEWAY.
Salam TDM,
we all(msian) know 3 sen per 1000 gallons of raw water is ludacris,
but a deal is a deal,
it was done before you and i were even born ,
but then to me ,,that they (spore) really rely upon water solely because much of their industries depend on water.(esp, Electronic and semiconductor )
they can use their "NEW WATER"(N.A.S.A technology anyway) but how much can they recycle from biological waste to meet their economic demand.
previously i know Johore is using treated water from spore.
but now i know we have our own water company doing it privately for our own usage ,
we are giving away our VERY GOOD WATER for 3 sen per 1000 gallons,
therefore why not we give it for free of our NOT SO GOOD WATER..
the aggreement just state supply of water from johore to spore
..what type or quality of water is not mentioned in the pre-historic aggreement.
so why not we try this and see what happen..
Tun,
Saya setuju dengan Askay. Bagi saya lawatan Lee Kuan Yew (LKY) ke Malaysia tanpa menemui Tun dalam senarai lawatan itu tidak membawa apa-apa kesan terhadap Tun.Sekurang-kurangnya ada pemimpin kita seperti Tun yang tidak perlu membuang masa untuk menemui Maharaja LKY.Tun, negara kita telah membuat banyak kesilapan dalam pelbagai hubungannya dengan Singapura termasuklah isu harga air dan sebagainya.
Semua ini sepatutnya memberi pengajaran kepada kita bahawa apabila kita berurusan dengan Singapura, kita mesti berhati-hati apabila berbincang, membuat sebarang perjanjian kerana Singapura bukan sahaja akan memperhalusinya supaya menguntungkan mereka malah diperkuatkan dengan peruntukan undang-undang.
Oleh itu, pemimpin-pemimpin politik kita haruslah berhati-hati dan jangan pandai-pandai membuat sebarang janji dalam perbincangan mereka dengan pemimpin-pemimpin Singapura terutama apabila melibatkan kedaulatan dan masa dengan negara kita.
Malangnya, kita masih tidak mahu mempelajari daripada kesilapan yang lalu.Apabila kita tidak dapat membina jambatan lurus kerana kedegilan Singapura, kita memberikan republik itu bertapak di kawasan Iskandar, Johor secara percuma tanpa sebarang quid pro-quo daripada republik itu.
Dan terbaru, kita mudah beralah apabila bersetuju membina jambatan ketiga dengan Singapura, sedangkan kita benar-benar memerlukan jambatan baru bagi menggantikan Tambak Johor.
Saya tidak mahu mengulas lanjut mengenai perkara ini, tetapi cuba kita fikirkan bahawa dalam setiap rundingan kita tidak selicik Singapura, sentiasa beralah dan sentiasa rugi kerana kita tidak mahu mempelajari daripada kesilapan kita apabila berunding dengan Singapura.
Maaf Tun, mungkin orang lain memperketawakan kita kerana kebodohan dan kemurahan hati kita tetapi itulah hakikatnya.
Salam Tun.
Tun,
Sebagaimana Tun tahu, dulu masa Singapore keluar dari Malaysia, LKY sebenarnya dia mahukan Johor sekali, bukan setakat Singapore sahaja.
Ketidakpuashatian dan dendam kesumat LKY tidak pernah padam sejak daripada itu. Dengan desakkan Singa UMNO masa itu dan juga ahli-ahli UMNO yang lain, Johor berjaya diselamatkan.
Tun & LKY adalah rakan sebaya (lebih kurang) dalam arena politik pada masa itu. Tok Guru hapak kat Tun supaya masuk balik dalam politik atas sebab tertentu setelah kecewa dgn politikdan dasar-dasar kerajaan pada masa itu.
LKY bernasib baik kerana berjaya take over Singapore dalam usia muda berbanding dengan Tun. Walaubagaimanapun, dalam masa 22 tahun Tun mampu melaksanakan kemajuan fizikal pada Malaysia walaupun gagal dalam menukar cara pemikiran orang Melayu.
LKY mungkin berjaya menukar mentality org Singapore kerana LKY mempunyai masa yang lebih berbanding dengan Tun. Kalau lah Tun dapat take over Malaysia seawal macam LKY take over Singapore, saya tak leh bayangkan macam mana la Malaysia sekarang dengan rakyatnya mungkin lebih advance.
LKY mungkin dia aksyen sekarang kerana dia dari Meewa Famliy. Duit dari gunung sudah turun Tun. Dia mungkin banyak duit sekarang sbb tu merata dia nak pi sebab mungkin nak melabur. Nak melabur di Singapore mungkin dah tepu, so LKY nampak Malaysia yang dia boleh tabur duit-duit tu. Dalam masa yang sama nk kongka Malaysia.
Dalam masa yang di Malaysia, “Si Kitol” dan "Bendahara Mandaliar" membuka pintu untuk depa masuk. Sebab tu la dia berani cakap Melayu boleh keje kt Malaysia (kurang ajar la tu). Kita jgn marahkn LKY, kita marahkan Si Kitol & si memanda Bendahara la.
Tapi Tun, kita kalau nk tumbangkan Singapore dalam satu malam jer Tun. Ini pernah berlaku ape. Isu air biak pi la. nanti bila-bila boleh kita kata, kau org cuci ponggong pon guna air Johor. Yang penting kita sediakan orang-orang kita supaya jgn jadi Si Kitol dan jadi memanda Bendahara yang bahalol. Cukup 2061 Singapore masuk balik. Yang penting surat jangan hilang lagi macam Pulau batu putih minit mesyuarat pon hilang (ke kena curik).
Mahathir scoffs at MM's visit.
He should not comment on this visit.
His behaviour is uncalled for. He should be more courteous
and polite in addressing issues in Malaysia and other matters
when commenting.
He ended his blog post by writing that he had more to say about
MM Lee but would reserve this for later. This shows that his attitude and mindset is frustating and the only way to venge his anger, frustration and criticism is to write in his own blog.
PM Najib and all cabinet ministers of Malaysia, do you accept these kind of remarks on his own blog.
We do our utmost best to serve our country.
Avoid attacking ministers or civilservants in the government sector.
Last but not least, Mahathir should not criticise the Malaysian and Singapore government openly. Time for you to retire and sit back
to enjoy your retirement age. If he insist on continuing to criticise the current governments, his remarks should be monitored closely by the Malaysian government to prevent him going over the limit.
POSITIVE ATTITUDE AND MINDSET.
SEIZE THE DAY, TAKE IT EASY.
COURTESY IS OUR WAY OF LIVE.
AC on June 16 made a very good case as to why water was priced and remained at 3 sen. Mahathir conveniently ignored the facts and told only half truths. That is his style. No wonder LKY cannot stand him. Blow hot blow cold in the same breath. Like a cobra!
And to my dismay, bloggers too chose to ignore the facts and talked about nasi lemak etc.
He steered Malaysia into the financial crisis and he steered Malaysia out of the financial crisis by pegging the ringgit to the US dollar. Many Singaporeans lost money having fixed deposit account in Malaysian ringgit. He is always trying to fix Singapore.
He will not hesitate to demolish Anwar Ibrahim and Abdullah Badawi. Under his PM the IGP punched a prisoner.
Malays in general are very nice people. It is only when they are in power that they become unnice. Mahathir with great skills play the emotions of the Malays to his advantage. He is unwittingly helping LKY to outperform him.
Malaysia and Singapore have much to gain by co-operation. Not buying MIGs to bomb Singapore!
To those who do not know what an agreement is, refer to the below and stop making noise.
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/agreement
Main Entry: agree·ment
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈgrē-mənt\
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1 a: the act or fact of agreeing b: harmony of opinion, action, or character : concord
2 a: an arrangement as to a course of action b: compact, treaty
3 a: a contract duly executed and legally binding b: the language or instrument embodying such a contract
salam Tun,
Tehtarik must have been joking when he / she said that transportation is Singapore is cheap!LOL hahahaha!
Aiseyman,you REALLY been to Singapore or not?don't blufflah my friend!
If you don't have money in Singapore,better dielah!Buka mata need money,tutup mata need money,carpark also middle of the night pay ticket,mah!
Go clinic need LOTS of money...haiyaa better die loh if you don't have money,man!
At least in Malaysia you can go to government clinic and pay RM1!
Haiyaa...lu siowlah!
Jeng3
Tun, just admit it you have been sidelined by Harry and now you feel malu about it.
Salam Sejahtera kepada Tun dan Keluarga.
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Macam Mana Tun dapat idea kasi Lky title baru, the 'little emperor'.
Your article very stinging and right at the cutting edge.
I cant inmagine kalau Tun not around apa jadi pada Malaysia.semua nya akan jadi pak turut.
Saya tak dapat nak bayang kan kalau Malaysia tu sekecil Singapura dan Singapura sebesar Malaysia dah lama kita di tindas,tengok saja israel.Another words the small Malaysia would have been steam rolled flat by the bigger Singapore.
Kepada mereka yang komen tentang Singapura mengamalkan meritokrasi,saya sarankan lihat saja angkatan tentera singapura,yang berpangkat tinggi siapa,adakah Melayu begitu tidak berkeupayaan,dont try to teach Malaysia about the NEP.Apa jadi pada sekolah sekolah Melayu di Singapura buka lah mata.Di sini Meritokrasi ada lah perkataan sahaja tetapi apa yang di amalkan amat berbeza sekali.
Tun definitely you are not alone.God Bless You Tun.Take good care of your health
i still dont understand why you didnt clear your job whilst in power but prefer to stay sideline and criticise?
when you pulled the sultan powers down i really take my hats off you!
but now?? i'm having a headache!
Salam Tun
I feel I have to agree with comments from OrgJohor (June 15) and UpholdJustice (June 15). The first thing we must know and digest is that LKY studied in Cambridge and thus he has a brilliant mind (as has been seen from his establishment and realisation of Singapore). However, it doesn't mean we are every bit less brilliant than him. I cannot believe the Sultans and rulers can entertain this man..what ? Are they so happy to have fine cigar with him and indulge in useless talks about the colonial ways? I have stated before and I state it now again...I am not in favour of a system where certain people are treated way above other people and who can simply travel along a crowded highway with some siren and police escorts and live in palaces like kings, while we, the ordinary public, mumble and bungle our way through the backbreaking traffic jam. I think foreigners who come here realise how stupid we are to allow such a thing to happen. Of course such rulers and leaders would not want such priveleges taken away from them which even makes them appear more stupid because they do not think that the ordinary intelligent citizen notices!
First the water issue. Who is the stupid UMNO leader who signed this ridiculous water agreeement with Singapore? He should be kicked in the butt! I only have 1 thing to say. It is our fault. Any common layman can see that the price of the sale of water must reflect changing times and be also based on supply and demand. I suspect that someone silly made a contract a long, long time ago to fix the price of water with Singapore for hundreds of years and if so, there is nothing we can do about it until the contract terminates. I mean, we have had stupid Malay rulers who have given away large and valuable and strategic and precious lands of ours in the past such as Singapore and Penang and others have capitalized on it and made these land very commercially successful. To that I say we have nobody to blame but those past leaders. And people will continue to talk about their blunders in many years to come. It is our water. We are the giver and Singapore is the asker. We have water. Singapore does not have water. How come our UMNO leaders can even fail to even make a commercial and profitable venture out of this? A bright leader with foresight would have made our country very rich doing business with Singapore. But look what kind of leaders are coming out of UMNO until we are making big losses on this contract and Singaporeans are happily laughing their heads off. Well done, UMNO! And to top it all off, your leader went and handed off a piece of land/rock to the Singaporeans under his short tenureship. Singapore -2 Malaysia - 0 ! This shows UMNO leaders (except you) cannot govern! And Singapore implemented their national youth programme way before Malaysia implemented Rakan Muda, making their people very disciplined and nation-minded! I think all the loss Malaysia is making on this sale of water to Singapore issue should be deducted from the salaries of UMNO leaders or more correctly, the stupid person who signed the contract in the first place!
Second Uphold Justice's statement about the Chinese getting involved in Iskandariah will make it more commercially vibrant. I really respect the Chinese community in Malaysia because compared to the Malays, they are way, way hardworking. I always like to compare myself with them to ensure that I am constantly on my feet and not lagging behind. Unfortunately many a Malays (and a good number from UMNO) like to just goyang kaki and get the contract and let the Chinese do the work which in the end makes the Chinese richer! This is so common with UMNO politicans, it makes me sick!!! It is this lazy tidak apa attitude which is why Malays have not progressed much. Otherwise we would be at a level where we can handle the development of Iskandariah ourselves without involvement of non-Malaysians!!!
I have to also agree with JJJ on his approach. There cannot be excuse for stupid UMNO leaders who have been outsmarted in business to the advantage of our opponents. Singaporeans have outsmarted us on many fronts (water, technology, land development, commercial appeal). We have learnt, seen and done nothing - that is what UMNO leaders have done (except under you when rapid development took place and Singapore got its rightful cold shoulder treatment).
Under Najib, I don't know how much worse it is going to get. He'd better be careful. He is opening the doors to Singaporeans once again and he'd better be careful not to be outsmarted by them, otherwise we all will suffer and he just runs away into the shadows! Some leaders just don't learn!
However having said that I do note the words of Rimba Emas. However I don't think he understands the problem where S'poreans reprocess our water sold to them cheaply and sold back to us at a higher price. I cannot understand how we can be so stupid. Yes, we can be humane...but only to people who are deserving. If we are humane to people who take advantage of our humanity, why should we be humane to them, then ?
I have to applaud Askay for a very deserving comments. It shows how silly our current leaders are. And I am not placing much hope in them! The sooner we change leaders to more capable persons, the better!
Attaturk : [The only thing the mainstream papers did not do was show pictures of Najib and the rest of the leaders, BN or Opposition prostrating before this "Emperor".
At this rate we are going, very soon Singapore will be our next colonial masters.]
Ha...ha..ha...ha..... I must say that I really have not been impressed with Najib so far ... a lot of talk, flamboyance, lawat sini lawat sana...but still no action! I think he really went off to a bad start...the way he structured his cabinet. I cannot believe that he lumped Culture and ICT into one Ministry and Badlisham even supported it by saying it helps to infuse culture into technology!
And finally I have to agree with OrangLama which I simply must reproduce below : Keluarga saya biasa sangat lah dengan sifat orang Cina. Sebab itu lah saya bersama UMNO. Depa kuat bekerja berusaha bersungguh2 dan kebanyakan cara depa dapat pun cara betul. Tetapi malangnya orang Melayu kita ni lembik , lemah dan tak cukup kuat untuk bersaing dengan depa. Jangan marah saya pun orang Melayu. saya tak kata orang Cina itu tidak baik. saya kata orang Melayu itu lemah ,kurang pengalaman. Nanti hang pa rugi. Orang Melayu suka dipuji! semua boleh jadi! Kaum lain buat baik sikit depa terkenang dan menyebut budi berkali2. Kalau orang melayu buat baik depa lekas lupa, seprti "kacang lupa kulit".
It is better to let the Malays fall and pick themselves up...they will be a lot stronger and wiser then!
u sound like a sour grapes.... LKY meets the rest even the opposition party but not u so u feel like a no body. In fact, u r a no body.... no longer a PM
Mr Mahathir, for whatever you and his views are worth, you cannot hold a candle to Mr Lee Kuan Yew. If I may summarise both your achievements and successes (if only I could deign to call yours by those terms), no one would fault me if I say, 'Mahathir has made a country into a kampong, whereas Lee Kuan Yew has developed a kampong into a country'.
You come across as a thoroughly disgruntled mumpsimus, who still smarts from the pain of your ineptness and incompetence. Of course, I concede, we cannot blame you for your feeling envious of your contemporary, Mr Lee Kuan Yew, who has so much between his ears, much respected, sangfroid and is a juggernaut to his detractors.
While Mr Lee Kuan Yew will go down in history, Mr Mahathir, I deeply regret to say, you will be found in history's waste bin.
I (too) got a lot more to say about a makebate like you, but perhaps, I shall reserve it for another time when you are ready.